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Hambone
04-13-2005, 10:21 AM
I've seen these all my life but have never known exactly what they were.

Do you know?

HT2
04-13-2005, 10:34 AM
Looks like a honey bee to me.......... :huh: :huh: :huh:

JosephP
04-13-2005, 10:57 AM
I agree w/ ht2. Where did you find it?

rapid fire
04-13-2005, 11:18 AM
I have always thought that they looked like a honey bee, but I don't know that is what it is. They always love my holly bush.

coon dawg
04-13-2005, 11:35 AM
....bad tempers, will pursue you at night.........cavity dwellers, live mostly in hollows in trees.........they've nailed me more than a few times...... :).......folks, that's a QUARTER layin' there. ;)

Hambone
04-13-2005, 11:57 AM
Thanks Coon Dawg, I thought I'd heard somebody say one time that they were a hornet but I wasn't sure. Guys, this thing is huge (I know you can't tell it from the pic) but it dwarfs a honey bee. At least 3X the size of a honey bee with an elongated body. I found it inside the house and it took several whacks to get it with a fly swatter. Darn intimidating!

If those bad boys sting, I want no part of 'em!

coon dawg
04-13-2005, 12:02 PM
they are VERY aggressive.........you get near their cavity, day or night, you're in a world of hurt........ :( :)

Hambone
04-13-2005, 12:03 PM
I did a search on "english hornet" and didn't find many hits but did on "european hornet".

Here's a much better picture and some details about it.

http://www.uark.edu/depts/entomolo/museum/crabro.html

coon dawg
04-13-2005, 12:09 PM
ole Vespa crabro...... :)

No. GA. Mt. Man
04-13-2005, 12:11 PM
Onegot Into Our House A Few Years Ago And I Got Up In The Middle Of The Night To Go To The Bathroom And Stepped On It. I Woke Everybody Up. The Place Where It Stung Me Actually Bled.

matthewsman
04-13-2005, 03:34 PM
Is that what we refer to as a news bee around here? he hovers around and looks at you,goes away and comes back?

rapid fire
04-13-2005, 04:05 PM
I just glanced at the picture and thought it was a dime. Different thing at my house. It is not the same as a good news bee. I have never heard of a goodnews bee stinging.

Racor
04-13-2005, 05:16 PM
yep from what I can tell it looks like a hornet to me.

When I was 12-13 I stepped on a stick which in turn broke open a nest of those darn things (we called em sand-hornets). I had 4-5 caught in my hair, two up my shirt three down my pants and one in the middle of my back. My friend took the blunt end of an axe and wacked away! I was hurting real bad! Hmmm at least he said there were some in my hair! Hmmm

So I'm guessing some type of hornet.

rip18
04-13-2005, 06:23 PM
Mathewsman -

Nope the "news bee" or "good news bee" is really a fly that mimics a striped wasp or hornet. It pretends to be a big bad wasp so critters will leave it alone, but it ain't nothing but a little old fly.

Hambone
04-13-2005, 07:12 PM
Here's a much better picture than the one I took

coon dawg
04-14-2005, 08:02 AM
no, these rascals don't just look at ya.lol...........we call news bees those black carpenter bees that drill the holes in your wood??? :huh: .............ps-one drilled a hole in my rake handle, and I didn't know it.........they WILL hurt ya if ya put your hand over their hole.lol :D :D

Woodsman
04-14-2005, 11:30 AM
Bad news for sure. :hair: We call them Russian Hornets where I from. See them around weeping scares on Oak trees a lot.

rip18
04-14-2005, 12:51 PM
Coondawg -

What we call the "good news bee" down here is a Dipteran. It is a fly that mimics a bee, but doesn't sting. It doesn't excavate a nest cavity in wood either.

What we call carpenter bees are Hymenopterans that do sting and do excavate nest cavities in wood.


Just to clarify, the orginal thread topic does refer to an english or european hornet that will aggressively sting the tar out of you.

coon dawg
04-14-2005, 12:55 PM
are the news bees also sometime reffered to as "sweat bees".or is that something totally different.........sorta looks like a miniature yellow jacket whose wings got turned sideways? :)

rip18
04-14-2005, 02:57 PM
I haven't ever heard the "good news bees" called sweat bees. I did a quick search for "good news bees" on the internet to get a picture - they look like a 1/2 to 3/4 size version of a hornet or a yellow jacket on steroids. Body shape is more flylike, abdomen somewhat rounded, but pointed like a wasp. Head is different - eyes bigger than wasp/hornet & antennae different. Wing pattern is different, but really hard to see since you actually see them stop anywhere. Mostly they hover around like a super-quick helicopter/hummingbird.

Schulze
04-14-2005, 03:00 PM
I hate those sweat bees.

southernclay
04-14-2005, 09:41 PM
I've heard em called sand hornets also, I've never heard them called nice.

GA_Longhorn
04-15-2005, 12:04 PM
they are VERY aggressive.........you get near their cavity, day or night, you're in a world of hurt........ :( :)
If you get around my cavity, you could be in for a world of hurt,too... !!!

I'm just sayin' :smash:

coon dawg
04-15-2005, 12:18 PM
ya don't have to worry about that, Longhorn..........watch out for Rich, though. ::ke: :bounce: :bounce:

Hambone
04-15-2005, 01:19 PM
You guys implying that Rich is a cavity dweller too?!?

:crazy:




::ke:

BassWorm
04-22-2005, 08:33 PM
We've got those where we camp on a mountain top at our club. They fly around the lanterns and lights at night. They're a nasty looking thing. Never knew what they were called officially though.

Kreed5821
04-23-2005, 12:27 AM
I've always heard them called Japanese Hornets. I caught one on the back of my head. It made my world vibrate for two or three seconds. Those things are TOUGH !!! I got stung or bit by a carpenter bee (like Coon Dawg said: shovel handle) but it didn't hold a candle to that souped up yeller jacket.

BIGGUS
04-23-2005, 01:41 AM
Worst bug ever bit me. Honey bee and yelowjacket stings are annoying. I got tagged by one of these while fishing and went home. Made my whole hand hurt. Didn't take much to set him off either. :mad:

Swamprat
04-23-2005, 10:29 AM
That's what my Granddaddy called them. I know them things will light you up faster than 10 gallons of gas at a match factory.

Kreed5821
04-24-2005, 12:40 AM
... Honey bee and yelowjacket stings are annoying... :mad:My problem with yellowjackets is that I've never been stung by just one. I once tried to catch them by placing a plastic bag over the hole in the ground. I was maybe four or five. My sister was older and smarter, when she seen what I was doing she ran in the house and locked the door. Twenty something stings later Mama opened the door and let them out of my pants. LESSON LEARNED !
I've stepped on a couple of nests accidently since then. They don't fight fair.

BIGGUS
04-26-2005, 05:38 PM
I learned about the swarm 30 yrs. ago shooting a pellet gun at a hornets nest. Smart huh? They were all over me and my little dog too! :hair:

deerhuntingdawg
04-26-2005, 08:39 PM
Could that be a "Bald Face Hornet"? Or possible a queen which grows much larger? Very common in Georgia. I've found several of their nests in Burke County.
By the way, according to some research I've done on bee stings, the Yellow Jacket has the most potent venom. And like the hornet, can sting multiple times without losing it's stinger.

BANDERSNATCH
04-28-2005, 04:54 PM
During turkey season in South Carolina our camp has hundreds of these 'carpenter bees' flying around. My son and I, for redneck pleasure, take a PVC pipe and see how far we can hit them!!! LOL They have a deadly habit of hovering in one spot, like a hummingbird, and the next thing they know is that my 11U-AAU-baseball-playing son has driven him, headless, thirty feet away!!! LOL Great fun. :banana:

Bandy

7mm08
04-29-2005, 03:48 PM
I got popped by one of those suckers getting out of my truck before going bow hunting. :cry: By the time i got to my stand, my forearm was almost twice as big as the other one. I was not very comfortable in the stand that day.

Bucky T
04-29-2005, 05:07 PM
I've always wondered what kind of hornet they were myself.

Coon Dawg,

Are they imports, going by their name of course, or are they native to North America??

Tommy

coon dawg
05-02-2005, 09:39 AM
baaaaaaaad attitude...............only Vespa that will come after you at night...... :(

Bucky T
05-02-2005, 06:31 PM
I guess you've had some encounters while chasing some coons!!!

Tommy

coon dawg
05-03-2005, 07:52 AM
worst night............had my daughter and a little friend of hers along...........all three of us got hammered..............including the dog (nest cavity was about eye level in the tree the dog was treeing on). :( :(

Bucky T
05-03-2005, 09:23 AM
That would not be fun.

In the dark to top it off. Hope your girl and her little friend were okay, and of course you and your dog!!

I got hit by some yellowjackets during bowseason a few years ago. They had built there nest in a hollowed out tree about 5ft off of the ground.

I leaned my treestand up against it and BAM!!!

It wasn't fun.

Tommy

Dixie Dawg
05-04-2005, 01:10 PM
I have always thought that they looked like a honey bee, but I don't know that is what it is. They always love my holly bush.

I have a holly 'bush' that's about 20' tall and just as wide... it is covered up with these things right about now and will stay that way through summer :(

Probably not real smart that I just set up our above-ground pool about 10 feet from there :banginghe
I've got a small fortune invested in hornet spray.... lol

Love, light & blessings,
Kerri ;)

Limbshaker
05-11-2005, 10:13 AM
Here's an example of what those boogers live in
HHH

Trigabby
05-13-2005, 05:37 PM
Aye.. I was introduced to these hornets about two years ago.. I had a branch that I needed to cut down to help clear out part of my yard.. Unbeknownst to me, the tree the branch was attached had a big cavity in it. .
I was standing on my 4 wheeler, and took one whack at this branch with my machete and I swear I got hit in the shoulder with a rocket propelled hammer...

I got them back later, though.. :smash: The nest was about 4 feet tall (within the cavity) and about as big around as a basketball.... NEVER have I felt such pain from a bee sting..

BTW, the bald faced hornet is actually part of the yellow jacket family.. Whodathunkit?