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logger12
10-03-2009, 05:42 PM
Who knows much about them flinlock smok poles? I sure do thank those things are neat? Are they hard to use? I sure like the primative stuff.

lonewolf5347
10-03-2009, 07:12 PM
A good tune lock will fire as fast as a percussion lock
even upside down
you just have to learn how to set -up your flint and the size of the touch hole for fast spark to the main charge.I seen guys load the primer pan full of powder and they think the more powder the faster the burn ,just not so.I load 2 grains 4F and try to tap the charge to the right of the pan and don't forget to use tom fuller black english flints:shoot::yeah:

Nicodemus
10-04-2009, 11:09 AM
To me, they are the ultimate rifle. If you know anybody that ia close by, that has one, I`m sure they wouldn`t mind lettin` you shoot it. What is your major interest, shootin`, huntin`, re-enactin`, all of it? :D

logger12
10-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Well there friend. I wouldnt know anything about reenactments but I would just like to shoot it and hunt with it . I like to feel like Im one of the real old timers when I walk in the woods.

wandering cowboy
10-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Hey Nic how bad is the flash form the pan, especially shooting a flinter left handed???? I've been wanting to go flint but can't afford the costs of finding the leftand flinters I want?????

flyfisher76544
10-04-2009, 06:07 PM
I am a lefty, the flash isn't bad at all. Just remember to stay focused on the target and follow thru.

Nicodemus
10-04-2009, 06:10 PM
Hey Nic how bad is the flash form the pan, especially shooting a flinter left handed???? I've been wanting to go flint but can't afford the costs of finding the leftand flinters I want?????

I don`t know. It seems like the flash will be mighty close to your face.

wandering cowboy
10-04-2009, 07:01 PM
I am a lefty, the flash isn't bad at all. Just remember to stay focused on the target and follow thru.

dang if you werent such a long drive away I'd offer to come down and see if you'd let me shoot a flinter left handed before I go buy one lol !!! Maybe I'll just buy a GPR flinter and if that works out I'll buy a longrifle later.

flyfisher76544
10-04-2009, 07:25 PM
dang if you werent such a long drive away I'd offer to come down and see if you'd let me shoot a flinter left handed before I go buy one lol !!! Maybe I'll just buy a GPR flinter and if that works out I'll buy a longrifle later.

Plus GPR has em in lefty.

F.A.R.R.
10-04-2009, 07:45 PM
I shoot left handed, shootin a right handed flinter left handed isn't any fun. It throws hot stuff into your face.

tv_racin_fan
10-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Ain't no way you could convince me to shoot a right handed flinty left handed. Couple of my sons young friends mentioned something bout shooting our Black Powder rifles once or twice. So they come by to visit the son one day and I say today is as good a day as any. Well they went and got an even younger boy, which was no problem. BUT one of them boys was helpin the younger one and before I could think to mention that he didn't want to be on the wrong side helpin that youngin it was too late. The one boy still has black powder bits in his arm, them things spit fire out the touch hole...

I'm partial to the plains style rifles myself. I just like the idea of being able to take the barrel off and clean it in the tub and not have to worry bout water getting down between barrel and stock.

acmech
10-05-2009, 05:20 AM
Stay away from Traditions rifles, the one my Dad got was total crap. First time he took it out, the main spring broke. Next he couldn't get it to fire, it just wouldn't make a lot of sparks when he fired it. On advice from a gunsmith he had to remove the frizzen, and harden it. Throws a shower of sparks now. His next problem, he loaded the gun, went hunting and when he cocked the hammer to fire at a deer, his replacement main spring from traditions broke again. His gunsmith buddy gave him a piece of springstock, told him how to make a replacement and heat treat it. After Dad made that spring, its been perfect for a couple years now.

wandering cowboy
10-05-2009, 06:47 AM
Oh make isn't a big deal but the rifles I really want are a "pretty penny" so I may just settle for a go-between gun for awhile.

F.A.R.R.
10-05-2009, 09:24 AM
You'll notice a difference in the more costly (custom) guns and the factory guns. The biggest difference is in the locks. Many factory flinters have a small lock, with a coil spring, which uses a small flint. Try to find one with a good lock, Silar is hard to beat. These bigger locks have much heavier springs, and use bigger flints which throw allot more spark- so the lock time is much better.

Also counterboring (drilling a cone shape) the touch hole goes a long way in quick lock times and reliable ignition

They do throw flame from both the pan and a back flash from the touch hole. After years of firing you can see the gas marks on the pan.

logger12
10-05-2009, 05:01 PM
Nicoedemous, What kind of gun is that in your picture thangy there?

Nicodemus
10-05-2009, 05:51 PM
Nicoedemous, What kind of gun is that in your picture thangy there?



That is a custom Davide Pedersoli flintlock longrifle in 50 caliber. It has double set triggers, a 39 inch browned barrel, a flint, chipped out by me, from Early County "blue ice", and the flashhole drilled out just a touch larger than normal. It shoots very well, and has taken numerous deer, with a 60 grain charge of FFFg pushin` a .490 patched round ball.

This rifle is styled after the Tennessee mountain rifles of the late 1700s. It does not have any of the fancy inlays or German silver decoration on it. This is a workin` piece.

logger12
10-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Sounds like a fine gun Mr. Nic. I use 60 grains a powder and a patch and home made round ball myself.

Nicodemus
10-05-2009, 09:51 PM
Sounds like a fine gun Mr. Nic. I use 60 grains a powder and a patch and home made round ball myself.



What you got? show us a pic.

duke13
10-06-2009, 11:41 AM
I don`t know. It seems like the flash will be mighty close to your face.

It is right in front of your face. I been shooting a righty .54 lyman trade rifle lefthanded for 30 years and ain't never had a burn. Maybe someone is overpriming?

Nugefan
10-06-2009, 11:57 AM
I shoot lefty and after shooting Chotawlb's right hander left handed the fire was " In my face " .....:eek::eek::eek:

I now have a left handed Great Plains Rifle ....:yeah::clap::cheers:

.50 cal. flinter
10-06-2009, 12:45 PM
I shoot a .50 cal. flintlock myself. If you go flintlock plan on shooting it alot at first, took me about 100 shots to get rid of the flinch.Just concentrate on the sights and target instead of the action of the lock.As said a large siler is a very good lock, have one on mine.Also go to muzzleloaders forum .com, good place to check out if your new to flinters.

flintlock58
10-08-2009, 04:49 PM
l&r makes replacment locks for the imports. take a 200.00 rifle ad a 150.00 lock have a great gun .

choctawlb
10-08-2009, 05:39 PM
If you are interested in a good quality flintlock at an affordable price, go to TVM. They used high quality locks and barrels, and do real nice work. The website is www.avsia.com/tvm/ Check em out, they are fine folks to work with.
Ken

flyfisher76544
10-09-2009, 05:53 AM
Also go to muzzleloaders forum .com, good place to check out if your new to flinters.

Yepper, been on that site for years. Really helps out when nobody around you shoots a flinter.

Darkhorse
10-13-2009, 03:07 PM
I had 3 LH flintlocks at one time a few years back, now just 2, sold one to one of our good members here.
I've been at this game since 1976 and will not shoot a Righty flinter unless I've got good safety glasses on. In fact unless I'm in the woods I shoot my Lefty's with safety glasses too.
I built the 2 I've got. One is a .54 Lancaster the other is a
.40 Lancaster for Turkeys and Squirrels.
If going with a factory LH, I'd definitely go with the Lyman Great Plains with 1/66 twist. Years ago I modified all my touch hole liners but Rightnour Manufacturing (they have a website) makes one with all the modifications already done to them. One of these will make that Lyman go off like a firecracker.
Something to be aware of with the custom built guns is "castoff". The Lymans, TC's and such have straight stocks but the higher end guns have cast off. Right behind the lock the stock is "bent" away from the shooter. This brings the barrel and sights a little more in line with the face and eye. Obviously one wouldn't by choice contract a rifle to be built with opposite cast off, just as one wouldn't contract the same rifle to be built with a flintlock on the same side as your face and eyes. Just too much danger from sparks and tiny pieces of flint flying around.
Things just work better and people tend to enjoy and use things that are well thought out and fit them properly.