non resident hunting lisc

[gobblestopper]

Do you support an increase in the amount paid for non resident hunting lisc

[gabowman]

D2D, point well taken.....now if a person from Ohio comes to Georgia to hunt our big game do we drop the price of their out of state liscenses to match what they charge you and me to hunt up there (an eye for an eye)? That would be a total of a whopping $110 for the entire season. Just food for thought....

GB

[SlipperyHill Mo]

$177 is enough to hunt deer. The reciprocal price is good idea like D2D said.

However if the resident license goes up to help with costs the non resident should go up the same amount.

A cheaper 7 day license like Alabam has for about $77 is a good idea if somebody want to hunt only once. $144 is too high fro our 7 day license.

[Jeff Phillips]

I could not vote!

I think the resident and non-resident should both be raised, with the increase going directly to DNR.

[Agman]

I also agree with D2D, Pay what your state charges for non residence. Maryland does it.

[ncman]

First a person is not responsible for the price of a non-resident liscence from their state. They don't make the rules. If they choose to hunt here and could make a deal with you to hunt their state, i'm quite sure they would like to just swap even with no money exchanged.
Second; I know i've heard it on here many, many, many times and just read atleast two letters in GON about how they can't afford to hunt anymore, they can't afford to pass on the tradition, they can't afford to lease a tract of land, blah, blah, on and on. Why in the world would you want to increase the price more when you already complain so much about the price of hunting now.
There is this guy at my work, (jeffw can vouch for this), that loves to complain. I have seen him be able to get his way (on different issues) after arguing with our supervisor and still will not take it, just so he can complain about it. I think some of you on here are like him. Anyways go out and vote today. :flag:

[Mechanicaldawg]

Why don't we just do it the way income taxes are figured?

Pay 1/2 % of your taxable income under the amount of $200,000 and 2% of that amount of $200K. Your children pay 1/4 of whatever you pay. Unless you pass away in which case they pay 50% of the value of your estate into a trust fund for the future of hunting in Georgia. Of course should the hunter be married an adittional 1-2% tax should be added, just for kicks and giggles.

Once this election is over, let's fight to get the "Fair Tax" in place!

:flag:

[ncman]

Sure is funny how you guys are quick to jump on this thread and ain't touched gobblestopper exact thread on resident licences.

[Bowhunter24]

I dont think the dnr should raise non-resident licence, i mean if u bow bunt and i do, thats $202 every year i spend on licence and last year there were 33,000 hunters from florida that were paying that thats alot of money. And not just the license but we do put alot of money into the enconmy on gas, procesesing, eats, and etc.... I think the non-residents do more that there part. What does a resdident hunting license cost like $13??? If so why not rais that to like $20 or even $25 thats not pocket breaking and being the dnr needs the money that bad it shouldnt be a problem

[gobblestopper]

bowhunter, 33,000 hunter from Florida last year? wow, no doubt we need to raise the non resi fee's. Just think about how many of the open jobs within the DNR we could fill.

Heck with jut the 33,000 from florida paying an additional 50 bucks each next year that would amount to $1,650,000.00 :yeah:

[Megadawg]

GABOWHUNTER
In Ohio 110 is just the start. 24.00 for a deer permit and if u are lucky enough to hunt a county that alows 3 deer that is an additional 24.00 per deer. I that is not taking in to account that gun season is shotgun smokepole or handgun and is only 1 week long. Heck they even give the kids a holiday for deer season. I agree some states have pretty steep prices and that they should either come down or pay inflated prices when they come to georgia.... My wife dad come down here from Ohio ever year and is amazed how liberal we are when it comes to hunting. shoot one in ohio and that better the only one until that one is checked in at any local checkin station. Ours up north is 15 miles away.

[duckbill]

This is a HOT TOPIC for me. Go talk to the locals in the small towns where we hunt. They'll tell you that if it weren't for us hunters, the towns would not survive. They rely on us solely. I already can't afford to come up enough because of lease prices going up and gas prices. If Georgia DNR hits us for more money, myself and a whole lot of FL boys will be driving THROUGH Georgia to hunt in Alabama and not drop a dime. If GA DNR can't get it done on the money we pay, they are mismanaging it. Don't charge me just because of their incompitence.
Sorry to vent, but this subject gripes me bad.

[gobblestopper]

Duck, "They'll tell you that if it weren't for us hunters, the towns would not survive. They rely on us solely"

Please let me know which city it is that soley relys on hunters for survival. I'd like to talk with some of those folks.

[Michael Lee]

The issue is NOT mismanagement of funds by the DNR. It is the constant budget cuts by our state government that is taking away from the DNR's budgets, just as they do the University that I work for.

I vote for all fees to go up, resdient and non-resident. I pay $34 per year for hunting (deer, turkey, small game), fishing, big game, and primitive weapons. I know that is nothing compared to out of state fees, but for me to do the same thing in Florida it would cost me $261.50 for hunting only, that is more than the $202 than it costs for FL residents to come here.

Oh, and FL just raised the turkey permit last year to $100, that is an increase from $5. What's up with that?? They are cashing in on non-residents hunting the Osceola, which is not even recognized if taken in North FL.

ML

[duckbill]

ML, I agree with you on the Turkey permit. That's just wrong.
I agree with you 100%. If you're going to raise the fees, do it to everybody. I shouldn't accuse the DNR of mismanaging...my bad. It just ticks me off when these guys want us out-of-state folks to pay more, but aren't willing to pay more themselves.

[Dog Hunter]

What does it cost a resident of fla to hunt deer in fla. (season long lic.)??

[Michael Lee]

Dog,

If my Math is right $27.50, I think.

Bill,

We are on the same page bud. Everyone should help, not just non-residents.

ML

[Megadawg]

Somewhere i heard a figure that 75% of the money u pay for lisc goes directly to dnr. Dont know how true it is, but if it is it still is not enough. Our wonderful lawmakers have really let me down this past term. But maybe with some fresh minds things will start to look up...

[Bowhunter24]

I believe that gobblestopper has an issue for non-residents especially from fl. Why should it be all up to the non-residents to pay for the dnr mismanagement of funds??? Also reading in ur other posts about making the non-residents pay more for there fines if they are caught for wrong doing and leaving the residents to pay less, is pretty stupid, i agree with stiffer fines on law violaters but it should be for ANYONE who breaks the law not just out of towners. Good thing theres not to many guys out there that thinks like u and has an issue for fl guys, cause im sure if there was we would take all 33,000 of us and head to bama. I would pay a lil bit more i would be willing to pay $225 as long as the resdients were also having to pay an increase i think its apart of the geaorgia people to help as much as it is for us visitors to help not soley the non-residents. Yall have a good week for im off for the week to hunt, good hunting everyone :cool:

[Michael Lee]

2. No posts will be allowed containing personal attacks or - harassing - inflammatory - vulgar - abusive - threatening - sexually orientated - hateful - or obsene language. This includes typing around the censors that are set in place and will be enforced to the best of our ability. - Please remember many of our Members allow their young Children to read this Board along with their Wives. We also have many Ladies included in our membership with quite a few Preachers/Pastors and we also have viewers from other Countries. ---------- There are no boundries ----or age--race--sex barriers when it comes to being a Hunter.

[Just 1 More]

DANG IT... What did I miss? Someone get nasty about the whole thing??? I have been locked away in a class room all day yesterday as well as today... :banginghe

[JBowers]

...i mean if u bow bunt and i do, thats $202 every year i spend on licence ...
Assuming that, as you state, you bowhunt and since you didn't state that you hunt WMAs and this is in Georgia, then you are paying about $60 more than required. Which is OK too!

[JBowers]

It just ticks me off when these guys want us out-of-state folks to pay more, but aren't willing to pay more themselves.Who are "these guys"? And who or what bills says that non-resident fees are going to increase or that it is only non-resident fees that would increase? I am aware of two different surveys that indicate most Georgia hunters are supportive of a license fee increase on themselves, not that this means one will occur. Further, I am not aware of any current introduced bill or a recently introduced bill to address this issue.

I suspect that IF any license fee increase were to be proposed that it would be an across the board increase for everyone. Let's not forget the fact that such increases are a matter of legislative lawmaking and non-residents don't elect Georgia lawmakers. As such, they represent their districts.

[JBowers]

All hunting license fees are returned to DNR with some additional general tax revenues. The breakdown is that about 60%of teh budget is license fees (including Pittman-Robertson matches) and 40% is general tax revenues. The General Assembly has cut the general tax revenues portion for many of the last years (10 or so). When that happens money allocation changes, programs are cut, positions are cut (how many hunt in a County with no LE?), WMAs may get cut, etc and etc. The bottom line is that the WRD that you have been used to and its functions can't survive at the current level on hunter dollars alone. And so....

[duckbill]

Jbowers, I was referring to the 14 who voted that we pay more. Particularly the outspoken fellows like Gobblestopper and others who have been vocal in other threads. This isn't the first time this subject has come up.
Most Georgia hunters that I talk to agree that any increase should be an increase for everyone. There are a few, however, who think we should pay their share as well as our own.

I don't have a problem paying the out-of-state fees because Georgia has some awesome hunting. My home state, on the other hand, has a lousy program and public land hunting is for the birds. The only thing we have is the Osceola turkey and Florida has the nerve to gouge out-of-state hunters for it. For a half-descent public land hunt in Florida we have to pay for the license, permits, application fees and then $100 for a 3day hunt(if we're drawn).

[JBowers]

Jbowers, I was referring to the 14 who voted that we pay more. Particularly the outspoken fellows like Gobblestopper and others who have been vocal in other threads. This isn't the first time this subject has come up.
Most Georgia hunters that I talk to agree that any increase should be an increase for everyone. There are a few, however, who think we should pay their share as well as our own.
Understood.

The only thing we have is the Osceola turkey and Florida has the nerve to gouge out-of-state hunters for it.
Might that also be construed as the Government exercising a capitalistic ideal?

[duckbill]

Might that also be construed as the Government exercising a capitalistic ideal?

JB, I believe you hit the nail on the head :flag: . I think all of us just want a descent place to hunt without having to take out a second mortgage to do it.

[SADDADDY]

you would have to be crazy to hunt Florida if you were from out of state, heck people in Florida hate to even pay for a resident license, cause they know they ain't getting their monies worth :(

I would not mind paying an increase, I consider it a privilege to be allowed to hunt in other states, and an increase would not effect my hunting choices, we pay for leases, gas, food, lodging and licenses etc… so at years in a few extra $$ would not amount to much more to the total cost, a few extra hours of overtime or passing on buying that treestand you really don’t need would offset any additional costs we may occur.

if this would help the state better manage the system then I am for it. :flag:

[predator]

fl people come up and drive the price so high that i cant afford to hunt in my back yard on my on property so my soulation is that if your are from middel or south fl, then the dues at a min shoud be double$$ and this would help the state buy more plubic land so the resindents would have some were to carry there children to teach them to hunt and if the state is worred about $ lost then i would be in support of a $$ incress also. If you put a pencil on it ,it would only be around 5.00 to 7.00 if nobody came up from fl to make up the driffrence this would make up the driffrence and look at what kind of land would be open lets face it boys hunting land has become a money maker for the land owner and companys due to people throwing and paying stupid prices out there the only way I see to correct the problem is to fix the problem if they can afford to be in two or more clubs they need to pay More money to the state to help out with land pruchase,s so we would have more plubic land that they can hunt alone with us but they could,nt drive you off with money. now I hunt privite property only 100 acres now due to prices by the time my son get of age i,ll will have probley quit due to $$$$ if somehting is,nt done soon this will happen to a lot of good people inclueding FL boys.i,m about ready to quit and start fishing only it,s much cheaper and i,ll have more money to spend on fishing and it,s all public.

[stumpman]

Guys not to hurt yalls feelings i dont even hunt in GA but its like SC if all the FL people quit hunting up there for 1 or2 years yall would be in a sad state mainly the small buisness that count on the FL money from corn, seeds, fert, groceries, gas, motels, etc some say we drive up the leases we dont set the lease prices the land owners set that so be glad FL people come help support your economy and dont take advantage of them i know one year SC was going to try and shorten up hunting season and all the local buisness said no it would hurt them so they left it alone just my 2 cents worth.

[Just 1 More]

Where is it written that it's the "FLORIDA HUNTERS" that are driving up the lease prices? You guys need to get off that horse.
WE DON'T SET THE FREAKIN PRICES!!!!!!!!!!!! THE LAND OWNER DOES!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry if your economy dosn't afford you the income to where you can pay $400.00 a year for a hunt lease. A lot of GEORGIA BOYS are paying a lot more than I do and are in multiple leases. In fact, look at the LEASE section and you will see a couple of Georgia boys offering to pay ANY PRICE for a good lease.

[Heathen]

Well, I would support an increase all the way around, but I still think a nonresidence hunter should have to pay more to hunt in a different state. If I wanted to go to a different state and hunt I would expect to pay a considerable amount more to hunt. But, I live in GA. and thinking we have better hunting than FL., ALA, OR S.C.
Just My 2 % :bounce:

[Just 1 More]

but I still think a nonresidence hunter should have to pay more to hunt in a different state.
WE DO!!!!!!!!!!

[Heathen]

Well, another option would be to move to Georgia. Then you would pay the same amount that we resident hunters pay! :bounce:

[Just 1 More]

Well, another option would be to move to Georgia
When my daughter goes off to college,,, thats probably going to be an option.. until then, ya'll will just have to put up with me visiting on weekends ::ke:

[Heathen]

Well I guess things could be worse Just 1 More, Kerry could have been elected. ::ke:

[Just 1 More]

Help me understand the political overtone of that... remember, I'm a florida boy,,, I didn't catch the meaning :confused:

[CAL]

All my life I have heard the terms"Outar State,Outa County,new commers and soforth".To me hunters are just that,hunters that sit around the same fire and talk the same language.It makes no difference to me if you are from Fl,Ala,Sc,or anywhere else.
It has been my experience that most times when there is not enough money to go around,the money needs managing better.Just wondering if that angle has been looked at!If the DNR is like other state agencies you have a few doing a lot,a lot doing nothing,and all wanting a big paycheck!The state might need to tighten up some screws.
Some people just might be paying all they can afford to hunt.If the budget loses these people for more money I don't think we will be better off.We just might have less than we do now to operate on.Like everything else,a person can only pay so much and then it isn't worth it!
Just my .02 cents worth!

[Arrow Flinger]

I voted for an increase but also stated in another thread that I would be willing to pay double what I pay now for my resident license but I would only support an increase on anyone if the money is earmarked to the DNR. I pay $125.00 to hunt Bama for 5 days every year and have payed $250.00 to hunt Texas and $200.00 for Illinois for 5 days. I either pay the fees or don't go.

[JBowers]

... I would only support an increase on anyone if the money is earmarked to the DNR.
As I understand, that would require a Constitutional Amendment.

The other option is for hunters to lobby for an increase and then annual keep pressure on their elected representatives to account for and return the money, something that currently doesn't happen. That's (the latter) why your conservation budget gets cut.

[Mechanicaldawg]

The Amendment thing shouldn't be any big deal.

They are a dime a dozen these days.

[ncman]

Went back home this weekend to see the folks. I went to buy my license and the girl told me it was gonna be like $120. I said OK and she proceeded on. When she punched the codes in the machine and had to put I was now a GA resident it went to $180. I figure that is because thats what GA charges for NC hunters to hunt in GA. Soooooooo..... If GA non-resident licences weren't so high I would've saved $60 in my home state. Anyways, its still bow season there. I took a buddy of mine, whose dad introduced me into hunting about 12-13 years ago (around 13 years of age). My buddy and I have been hunting that long and have never killed deer on the same hunt..........until Sat. evening. So that was cool (we both took does). Also, that completed my cycle which I have also never done. You know how baseball players hit for the cycle, getting a single, double, triple, and a homer; Well I killed for the cycle this year. Big buck with my muzzleloader, doe with my rifle, and a doe now with my bow. I think I will do a poll on the cycle............

[Heathen]

Just 1 More, the Kerry referance just ment if he were to have won the election we may all have to start hunting with spears once he has banned all the firearms. :shoot: :shoot: :shoot:

[Just 1 More]

OK,,, got it,,,, I guess i'm just so used to others attacking.. I was looking to take that the wrong way... :banginghe I appologize.. And yes, You are correct, It would have been much worse for ALL OF US. :speechles

[Larry Rooks]

Ohio's lis fee has increased since last year. Last year it was 119.00 for one Buck, and you could buy an additional Doe tag for 20.00. This year it is 149.00 for one deer, either sex, and you can buy an additional Doe tag for 24.00. Just got back from there and these were the prices they charged me.
It is more liberal than last year. In 03, it was one buck on the original tag/lis.
Now that same lis will let you shoot either sex but still cost additional for another deer. I think you can also use a landowner tag if you kill and give hi/her one, or at least a special permit you can get to do so, increasing the total now to three deer

[ofdtruckie]

All I keep hearing over and over is how we need to stick it to floridians. The reason I go to Georgia to hunt is not for the bigger deer because I could go anywhere except Florida to do that. I go because the Georgia boys I hunt with are my buds and I enjoy the short time we get to spend with each other a few times a year. I read on here that no one would go to Florida to hunt but they do come in droves to fish our pristine bass lakes and our saltwater fishing is as good as it gets. I noticed the license for non-resident freshwater is $31.50 not to bad. Who cares if the hunting license is 151.50 cause no one comes to hunt here anyways. All I'm getting at is we all have the same passion for the sport and to divide us because of the state line is ridiculous. My family is from Ga and spent nearly a hundred years farming there until the tax bills became more than the family could manage so florida is where they came in 1956.I someday wish to return to my roots but till that day comes a little civility toward one another and a brotherhood of sportsmen should be all that matters in the end.

[Timberman]

a little civility toward one another and a brotherhood of sportsmen should be all that matters in the end.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Woody]

If a non resident owns a Saw Mill? ------ He should have to pay a surcharge of 500.00 plus 300.00 recreation tax.;)

How's the Rape coming Timber??

[Timberman]

If a non resident owns a Saw Mill? ------ He should have to pay a surcharge of 500.00 plus 300.00 recreation tax.

I agree, but only if Butts County agrees to cut property taxes by 2/3 for someone who sends no children to Georgia public schools. ;)

The rape is coming on. It only incured minor damage from the army worms which took out the oats and wheat on the remainder of the field. The frosts have it turning a purplish tint and 2 does ate their last of it Wednesday evening. I think it is really gonna be the trick the rest of the season. Thanks for the advice otherwise that whole field would have been a disaster. :)

[Mrbowdeadly]

Seems to me like we have a lot of problems, and everyone suggesting one solution.

Everybody needs to quit paying these ridiculous land prices, whether you hang your hat in GA. or FL, Bama or S.C.

Money needs to be well managed and well spent within the Gov. structure.

Hunters need to stick together. I don't like paying outrageous license prices any more than I like people paying them in my state.

These are OUR deer, not the states. A man should be able to teach his children his heritage without financing it. Hunting is the original "poor boys" sport, I mean it meant eating or not eating at one time. Now it is getting to be the "Rich boys" sport.

I agree with predator, I am about ready to quit and just fish. If it means anything to yall GA. boys, I will cast my vote appropriately to make sure that YOU can come to florida and do that without someone breaking it off in yer hiney.

MBD

[stumpman]

Timber man i dont see that happening what about the people with out kids they are still paying i dont think thats right either and what about when your kids go to private school and you pay for that and the county school taxes well thats another thread ill stop now.

[Timberman]

Stump,

I was kidding, as was Woody. I don't mind paying my fair share. I even pay for some kids in Florida to go to school. ;)

I'm on you're side. I don't think Floridians should be singled out and bashed for more money and blamed for all the ills that face hunting. I was a citizen down there too for a while. Seven years, if my mind still works right. :)

[gabuckeye]

Many Florida residents go to Georgia to hunt. Many more Georgia residents come to Florida to fish. Maybe Florida should charge Georgia residents the same amout to fish as Georgia charges Florida residents to hunt. Maybe then Florida could afford to spend money on improving hunting in Florida. No they would just waste it as all government agencies do. If the DNR really needs more money then I'm all for going up on everyone. A few more dollars is but a drop in the bucket to all of the money we spend on hunting.

[Heathen]

Maybe FL. should charge Georgians more to fish down there. I'll just fish here in Georgia. But the last time I checked it was alot more to go down there and deep sea fish than it was to buy a hunting liecense resident or nonresident. :bounce:

[Mechanicaldawg]

Heathen,

I don't think so.

It's about $7 for a 3 day and about $28 for an annual saltwater non-resident fishing license.

I have one in my pocket.

[Just 1 More]

HEATHEN, Could you please post some nubers ($) to support your claim? I think you're way off with your comment. :banginghe

[Heathen]

I was sure I could ruffle some feathers with that. Actually I was saying that becuase if you charter a boat you can pay that much. I guess you could still deep sea fish with out paying that kind of money for a charter boat, but it just doesn't sound like it would be near as much fun. ::ke:

[Just 1 More]

Most of the Deep Sea charter boats take 6 per trip so your really only looking at $100-$150.00 per person, plus maybe a tip for the mate and then your own food and drinks,, in all reality you're looking at less than $200 per person.

:yeah:

[Throwback]

If theirs go up, so should ours.

Taxation w/o representation, IMO.


T

[Heathen]

Okay Just1More, two hundred dollars is more than what a hunting liecense is if I'm not mistaken.... ::huh:
But who knows there's always a first time for every thing! :bounce: ::ke:

[GeauxLSU]

You know, I love you Florida boys but I find it amusing how bent y'all are getting on this subject.
I have a general question, why should a state allow non residents to take game (animals or fish) at all? Why shouldn't Georgia (or fill in whatever state you'd like) only allow Georgia residents to harvest it's game?
Do you feel you have a 'right' to hunt in any state you choose?
Just curious. There is (believe it or not) a point to this question.
Hunt/fish safely,
Phil
ps - A little off the subject but I'm going to go home (Louisiana) next month and finally get to do some duck hunting for the first time in 20 years. Louisiana has a 'native' license that you get a week or so long license for very inexpensive, if you were born there (need birth certificate). Designed to allow families to hunt/fish together during the holidays. GREAT idea IMHO.

[duckbill]

Hey Phil, the reason I originally got upset is because of the attitude of a few select members. I don't know if they feel "threatened" by us Florida boys or what, but they think our rates should go up and not theirs. My feeling is like ML said...a percentage increase accross the board for everybody. I don't understand the logic of these guys. I mean, think about it. As a Floridian, I only get limited time to hunt. As a Georgia resident, a fellow could hunt 10 times as much as me if he scheduled it right.
To answer your question...Yes, I feel I have the right to hunt anywhere in the country, but I also feel that hunting in another state should come with a higher price tag.

[Throwback]

DUCKBILL,

FWIW, you have NO IDEA the joy I get when a Floridian comes to GA and shoots the local seed bull. Like the monster non typical shot near here 2 years ago by a guy from Florida.

I LOVE IT!!!


T

[Just 1 More]

Wasn't there another state out west, Maybe Kansas or Oklahoma that didn't allow and non resident hunting up until a couple of years ago?

[Heathen]

Duckbill, if you feel that a nonresident should pay more to hunt in another state then whats all the fuss about just like GeauxLSU was saying? ::huh: Also just because we live in the state doesn't mean that we get more time to hunt than someone that lives in another state. I might get to hunt 5 or 6 weekends this year so how many do you get to hunt? That's about all my job will allow unfortunatley, but at least I do get that much, could be worse. :flag:

[gabuckeye]

And you have no idea how thrilled I am when I go to launch my boat to fish the bream and speck beds but there is no place to park a trailer because of all Georgia folks taking all of the parking spots. When I do get on the water, the guys from Georgia are parked 20 boats wide in my favorite spots. They stay weeks at a time and load coolers of the breed fish. I admit sometimes it bothers me. Usually that is when I'm not catching as many fish because I can't get into my favorite spots. Other times I just pull up and meet and fish with some great people and have some great conversations with people who love fishing as much as I do. These folks are no different than I am except they live in Georgia. One day soon I will be one of the ones from Georgia getting in the Florida boys way. When I was growing up we saw very few Georgia fishermen and had all of the best spots to ourselves. Now every body of water is covered in fishermen every weekend (many from out of state). Should we throw up a fence and not let Georgia folks in or gouge them for wanting to fish in Florida - I don't think so. Maybe we should not allow any out of state residents to fish in Florida - would make fishing here better. Florida needs the income that out of state people gladly give. Georgia needs it worse. As someone else stated on here a while back - Last time I checked this was still the United States of America! Times are a changing and we have to change too.

Geaux-LSU

To answer your question - I do think any citizen of the United States should be able to hunt and fish in any state and I don't think you should be able to gouge someone because they are from another state. I also like what you said Louisiana does. Since I and my family are native Georgians this would save me some money. Georgia will never do that as they would lose way too much money on all of the Georgia folks who have moved to Florida.

As I said before - if Georgia really does need the money then go up, but do so on everyone. When you consider I buy license's for myself, spouse and kids it gets expensive. It is worth every dime. The fees paid to hunt and fish by those living in Georgia is one of the best bargains I have ever seen in my life. I really can't believe the folks on here who complain about the cost of a resident license.

[duckbill]

Heathen,
The original issue was that the non-resident license rate would increase. There have been other threads in which some folks want the non-resident fees to go up, but not the resident fees. That's my beef. I feel that if the DNR needs more money, everybody should help out. The money everybody pays for a license(resident or non-resident) should be going to protect and manage hunting in that state. If a person is not willing to support that, they don't have the right to hunt. The guys that I'm referring to know who they are. :whip:

[Timberman]

I just wish I would have thought ahead and bought a lifetime license before I left.

[Heathen]

Duckbill,
It's easy to argue points from both sides, but if you shouldn't have to pay more to hunt in Ga. then when I visit Fl. I should only have to pay the same sales tax as I would at home not the higher tax in your state. Maybe I shouldn't have to pay the tolls on some of Fl.'s road since the money goes to the up keep of the roads and I'm just passing through and not using them on a daily bassis. Hey what can I say I like a good debate! ::ke: :D

[Throwback]

These folks are no different than I am except they live in Georgia.

My point exactly. :clap:


T

[Heathen]

AMEN,
Throwback :flag:

[duckbill]

Duckbill,
It's easy to argue points from both sides, but if you shouldn't have to pay more to hunt in Ga. then when I visit Fl.


Heathen, I don't think you're hearing me(even though I've mentioned it in every post). I agree with paying MORE. That's not the issue. The issue is...non-resident fees going up. The original arguement stemmed from some guys who think us out-of-staters should pick up the slack when the DNR says they need more money. I don't mind a good clean debate either, but don't misquote me. My feelings are that we're all in this together as hunters. Not everybody thinks that way, unfortunately.

[GeauxLSU]

OK,
I will admit, I do not have the passion about this subject that most of you do. Here's my only point (Duckbill, the question was not directed at you just a general statement about the 'energy' this topic, which to me is germaine, is producing). I could be completely off base on this, but I do NOT feel I have a RIGHT to hunt or fish for any game in ANY state other than the one I reside. The state's DNR runs the program for that state. I'm sure the main reason they allow other states resident's to hunt/fish in their state is a matter of simple economics. In that regard, I'm not sure it's different that any other 'business'. Every business I know of raises it's price to what the market will bare. No doubt, for every dollar out of state fees are increased less people will come. However, if you have less people coming but MORE money, perhaps that is a good thing (especially for the local residents)? I guess I just don't get the feeling of entitlement to hunt other states? Some states charge truly outrageous fees. Why are we not bent about those? Let's be honest, it's because we're neighbors and it's a matter of convenience. How many of you even know what the fees are to hunt... say New Mexico? The ONLY game I feel I may have a 'right' to hunt in other states are FEDERALLY regulated migratory game birds. Besides that, if it's in your borders and you allow me to hunt/fish there as a non resident, I'll just decide if the fee is worth it to me.
Now, taken completely the other way, why don't states just recognize other states licenses? Why do you have to have multiple licenses? I only have a Georgia driver's license let I get to drive 'free' in any other state. Even on the 'state highways'.
Hunt/fish safely,
Phil

[Heathen]

I feel the same way you do. :cool: :clap:

[ldavid008]

I like the first suggestion, charge what the other persons state charges GA residents and since I'm from TN I would like to get my $21 back since TN only charges $156 for a nonresident license. It's hard to blame anyone for liking an increase in the cost of licenses, but for ya'll GA residents it just makes me want to laugh. With the length of the season you have down there and for what you have to pay you've got it made. TN charges its residents more with a shorter season, unless you want to Archery hunt ($18) and Muzzleloader hunt ($18 more) and you still don't have a season as long as yours.

[camper]

This agruement over resident/non-resident fees is a nation wide problem. When I started hunting in Colorado the deer tag was $125 and the elk was $250. Now the deer is $250 and the elk is $495/bull, $250/cow. The state knew it would loose around 30% of the hunters by going up on the price but they stated the residents believed too many non-residents were coming to take the places away from the locals. The locals pay $25 for an elk permit. Also these permits are only good for one of the 4 seasons you choose from 5 days to a nine day hunt.

Hunting is now a business for the states and the landowners. Some landowners I have had dealings with in the past kept going up on their fee per acre until only the non-residents were the only ones willing to pay. Our hunting land has had an increase in price from the landowner each year. If it goes much higher I will be looking into the WMA's for a less expensive way to hunt.

Hunting is a tradition that needs to be pasted on to our families. There has to be a compromise in the fees for resident and non-resident. I don't see where a non-resident needs to foot the bill totally.

[JBowers]

...with the increase going directly to DNR.
That would require one of two things:

1) Trust the General Assembly to appropriate it back

or

2) A Constitutional Amendment

[Toliver]

That would require one of two things:

1) Trust the General Assembly to appropriate it back

or

2) A Constitutional Amendment

Ok..so what's the problem. SURELY there's no bureaucratic red tape in either of those processes. :rolleyes: