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Wpart
01-12-2011, 09:21 PM
Guys.....I'm looking to purchase a Kayak to use on the Hooch and other Ga Rivers...What opinions are out there?
THANKS!

fishndoc
01-12-2011, 09:27 PM
Lots of options, but you probably want to start by doing a search for "Jackson Coosa".

Wpart
01-12-2011, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the advice....What is the optimun length?

yaknfish
01-12-2011, 10:58 PM
Opinion on length?
12 or 13 feet.
You're in Cumming?
The Outside World in Dawsonville.

Georgia Hard Hunter
01-13-2011, 02:10 AM
These people specialize in Kayak fishing they would be the ones to ask. List what kind of water you will primarily be on they will tell you what length, width, design you need to look at.
http://www.georgiakayakfishing.com/

deerhunter09
01-13-2011, 08:25 AM
I use my kayak for rivers primarily, and my advice is to get a shorter kayak (10 to 12 ft) if you're going to be running through shoals. A longer boat is harder to turn quickly, and can lead to problems like turning over.
A Jackson Coosa is probably your best bet, it was designed for use in rivers.

Randy
01-13-2011, 09:10 AM
You should come see us at the boat show this weekend. The Outside World will have a booth there. Drew will be there with Jackson Coosa and I will be there with some Ocean Kayaks and they will also have some Native Boats there. You can get a lot of information is a short time. It would easily be worth the entry costs.

Randy
01-13-2011, 09:13 AM
I use my kayak for rivers primarily, and my advice is to get a shorter kayak (10 to 12 ft) if you're going to be running through shoals. A longer boat is harder to turn quickly, and can lead to problems like turning over.
A Jackson Coosa is probably your best bet, it was designed for use in rivers.
I would choose 12-13. Shorter boats have less deck space and don't perform as well is you decide to fish in places other than rivers. Turning more a function of hull design than length though is you get over 13 it starts to become harder to get in tight places in the shoals.

yaknfish
01-13-2011, 11:13 AM
I have a 13 foot kayak and a 8 footer. The 8 footer is great in little ponds, especially when I'm alone. Fishing with other people? Your kayak oughta be at least as fast as theirs, or you'll be paddling like mad. In a river, a longer, faster kayak will allow you to paddle upstream easily. A shorter one may be float down only.

crackerdave
01-13-2011, 03:35 PM
I've got a 12 foot sit-on-top.I can turn and paddle very well - upstream or down. However,"fast" does not apply to me.I like to take my time and fish hard,not paddle hard.

I think if you go have a look at the Boat Show,as Randy said,you'll at least come away with a good idea of what you want.They may not be in your price range,though.

I would definitely recommend a sit-on-top,though - whatever brand you get.

Wpart
01-13-2011, 04:28 PM
The advice is greatly appriciated!!! I hope to join you all soon on the water. My NRS raft is getting to be too much work and I'm only able to fish downstream. No going upstream in this schoolbus!!

I'm leaning toward a Native Ultimate 14.5. I visited Outside World and that appears to be a comfy ride!!

biker13
01-13-2011, 04:52 PM
Up the River Outfitters sell their used ones each year .They are right across the river on 20 Gwinnet side.Save you some bucks if you don't like kayaking

yaknfish
01-13-2011, 04:57 PM
Look around. talk to people. Consider if you want the boat to be self bailing or not. Also consider how you will be transporting it. Getting a heavy 'yak onto the top of a SUV or van can be a grunt. No kayak is perfect for everything, but you can get close if you are honest about your needs/desires first. For the way I use mine, the 12-13 foot SOT works great. I would even offer the opinion that it's the most versatile and the farther you get away from that, the more specialized you get.

fishndoc
01-13-2011, 05:34 PM
I have a 13 foot kayak and a 8 footer. The 8 footer is great in little ponds, especially when I'm alone. Fishing with other people? Your kayak oughta be at least as fast as theirs, or you'll be paddling like mad. In a river, a longer, faster kayak will allow you to paddle upstream easily. A shorter one may be float down only.
Yaknfish brings up a very good point - if you are switching from a pontoon to a kayak so you can paddle up & float down, & don't have to worry about a second vehicle or finding a shuttle (like me), then a boat that paddles fast and easy is just as important as stability.

I considered some of the shorter & wider yaks, but ended up going with a OK Trident 13 because it seemed to be the best compromise between speed, ease of paddling, stability and maneuverability. Since then, the Coosa has come out, and it is certainly very stable and maneuverable, and I'm told it paddles well also.

Also, the point about transport is a good one. I can slide mine in the back of my pickup bed, supported by a Harbor Freight bed extender ($30), and go anywhere and just back up to the bank and drop her in. No assistance needed. If you gotta lift one on top of your car, etc, then weight and size would be a big consideration.

Randy
01-13-2011, 06:01 PM
The advice is greatly appriciated!!! I hope to join you all soon on the water. My NRS raft is getting to be too much work and I'm only able to fish downstream. No going upstream in this schoolbus!!

I'm leaning toward a Native Ultimate 14.5. I visited Outside World and that appears to be a comfy ride!!

You're looking at an Ulimate for the river? The ultimate is a great calm shallow water boat but there are better boats for a river. Especially the 14.5 length.

MTMiller
01-14-2011, 10:52 AM
There is an awesome deal on an ultimate here:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/boa/2159208284.html

A boat like this usually sells for $650-$750 used and they are asking $375 for it.

It is not mine and I don't know who is selling it. Just passing on an unheard of deal on a great boat. They make an accessory (link below) to use it on the river that covers the front so it won't take on water.

http://www.austinkayak.com/products/1068/Native-Ultimate-12-Bow-Sprayskirt.html

http://www.austinkayak.com/products/1067/Native-Ultimate-Stern-Sprayskirt-Ultimate-12-or-145.html

I would not have a 14' kayak for the river. Too hard to turn it in rapids. 12' is great for the river. I own a 12' and 14' kayak and prefer the 12' on the hooch.

7 point
01-14-2011, 01:33 PM
I think it A great deal on A good boat Id go check it out if I was you wpart

MTMiller
01-14-2011, 02:14 PM
I'm pretty sure Basser Drew (a.k.a. Drew Gregory), a well know river kayak fisherman, highly regarded the Native Ultimate before he started developing/endorsing kayaks for Jackson Kayak. I know I have seen videos of him fishing out of the Ultimate (on rivers). Of course that guy could stand up on a 2"x8" board and make it look stable :) with his amazing talent.

Randy
01-14-2011, 02:43 PM
Here is a friend of mine with his Ultimate on the river. He no longer has this boat. As I said it is a great calm water boat but get tricky in shoals.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o243/Riverpirate01/fishing/005-3.jpg

7 point
01-14-2011, 03:07 PM
thats not the same boat on C list for sale is it?

Randy
01-14-2011, 03:19 PM
thats not the same boat on C list for sale is it?

No. He sold his last year after turtling in the Hooch and losing a fly rod. He has a Sit
On top now. Still a native boat but one that works better in the river.

crackerdave
01-14-2011, 04:22 PM
Any pictures of th' turtlin'?

MTMiller
01-14-2011, 09:20 PM
Here is a good review of the Ultimate 12 for the river if you decide to go that route. Guess it all depends on where you intend to do most of your fishing.

http://www.georgiariverfishing.com/GAarticles/Ultimate12/Ultimate12.htm

breampole
01-15-2011, 05:02 PM
Some people like the Old town 119 or Dicks Guide solo canoes same boat. I like a canoe, had one (not a solo) for years, but I now have a wilderness systems commander 120. If I had known the Jackson coosa was coming out I'd have waited on it. Randy who has been posting I think uses an old town Pack solo canoe on the rivers and does well in the shoals. Canoes and commander 120 don't have scupper holes which if you turtle can make for a lot of work to get the water out of the boat. From the picture can see Ultimate doesn't either. I think the Coosa has scuppers. Here is south Ga don't have to worry about shoals. I agree on length comments. 12' to me is ideal length. I have a trident 15 which I want to sell and it is great on big water, but my use of it in smaller flows was that it the length made it not as maneuverable. Commander is much better.