This breaks my heart

[Jody Hawk]

Something that just breaks my heart is seeing a woman bring her kids to church without their Daddy because he won't come. In my opinion, it is the father's responsibility to bring his family to church, not the mother's. My Mama took us all throughout our childhood because my Daddy wouldn't go. I guess that is what bothers me so much about it. When my brother died in 1993 Daddy told Mama that he was going to church the next Sunday. He got sick and never made it before he died but he got saved a month before he passed away.

[Arrow3]

My daddy never went when I was a kid and I was going every sunday......Now he goes nearly every Sunday and I hardly ever go...:huh:

[SBG]

Thank you Lord for Godly mamas.::;

[Jody Hawk]

I hardly ever go...:huh:

Well Brandon, you ought to go to church with your Daddy next Sunday. There's no place that I'd rather be than in church with my family !!!!!!!

[GeauxLSU]

Very common. Not sure why. Doesn't say much for men in general though. :(
In my house, I am the one leading the way when it comes to going to church. I make sure we go as a family. On rare occasions if little man is sick, momma will stay home with him but I am there. Bad weather, get over it. A lot of people look for excuses to NOT go. You got to figure those kids, especially sons, look up to their dads and simply figure, "If daddy doesn't need to go, I'm not going either."

[GeauxLSU]

Now he goes nearly every Sunday and I hardly ever go...:huh:Brandon,
I WISH I could get back the years I rarely went.... :(

[PWalls]

Went to a Brotherhood meeting not too long ago. Had a guest speaker.

He laid it out there. Said if it wasn't for God-fearing women doing men's work in our Churches, that we wouldn't have half of the Churches that we do and there would be even more Lost people around us.

He basically was saying that us MEN need to step up and do the job that God had laid out for us and to quit relying on women to do it for us. And that job started in the home.

[Branchminnow]

A good mother...........................

[redwards]

....He basically was saying that us MEN need to step up and do the job that God had laid out for us and to quit relying on women to do it for us. And that job started in the home....

With that in mind (getting men to be accountable, and step up to the plate of spiritual leadership in the home), have any of you ever been to Promise Keepers? It will be in Atlanta on July 28 - 29 this year. We have a group of 40 signed up already at the church we attend.

[PWalls]

have any of you ever been to Promise Keepers? It will be in Atlanta on July 28 - 29 this year. We have a group of 40 signed up already at the church we attend.

Our pastor has mentioned it a couple of times lately. I think we are going to get a group to go up there. I will attend. I imagine that our church will get 10-20 of us to go.

I have never been to one of their meetings.

[Georgiaastro]

I thank the Lord every day for my wife that took all 3 of our kids to church. They all accepted Christ as their saviour and I'm very thankful for that. I did not have my priorities in the right place while my kids were growing up. I also thank him for my wife for being a praying woman that would not give up on some one like me. I finally accepted Christ back in 1994. That's behind me now and I'm trying my best to make up for lost time. There is not a Sunday goes by that I'm not in church even on vacations I will find a church to attend.

So again thank God for mothers and wives because if it wasn't for them I don't know what us men would prabably do.

[Mechanicaldawg]

When it comes to church, men attract more men. In other words a woman can not, usually, do a good job of recruiting men into a Sunday School class.

However, you get a couple of men together and go visit a feller and he is much more likely to follow them to church.

I believe that a fired up Men's Ministry is the most important ministry a church can have.

Where the men go, the family will follow.

[Swamp Runner]

When it comes to church, men attract more men. In other words a woman can not, usually, do a good job of recruiting men into a Sunday School class.

However, you get a couple of men together and go visit a feller and he is much more likely to follow them to church.

I believe that a fired up Men's Ministry is the most important ministry a church can have.

Where the men go, the family will follow.

Went to a Brotherhood meeting not too long ago. Had a guest speaker.

He laid it out there. Said if it wasn't for God-fearing women doing men's work in our Churches, that we wouldn't have half of the Churches that we do and there would be even more Lost people around us.

He basically was saying that us MEN need to step up and do the job that God had laid out for us and to quit relying on women to do it for us. And that job started in the home.




Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Banjo]

Why not take it a step further....

Why all the effeminate pastors, youth pastors and "worship leaders?" There was a time in our country when the men who stood behind the pulpits were MEN...even taking up arms to defend their country and family when necessary.

[Swamp Runner]

Why not take it a step further....

Why all the effeminate pastors, youth pastors and "worship leaders?" There was a time in our country when the men who stood behind the pulpits were MEN...even taking up arms to defend their country and family when necessary.


Banjo, I think alot of our culture has gone "soft", it used to be Men were Men and Ladies were ladies.:)
Now the lines are blurred everywhere and it is hard to tell sometimes.:banginghe

[celticfisherman]

Went to a Brotherhood meeting not too long ago. Had a guest speaker.

He laid it out there. Said if it wasn't for God-fearing women doing men's work in our Churches, that we wouldn't have half of the Churches that we do and there would be even more Lost people around us.

He basically was saying that us MEN need to step up and do the job that God had laid out for us and to quit relying on women to do it for us. And that job started in the home.

Yep when God can't find men to do his work he raises up Godly women to take their place. Says a lot for the women he raises up doesn't it.

Men are not where we need to be and I am chief among sinners as well. I do not do what I am commanded. And have no excuse. Thank God for his Grace.

[celticfisherman]

Why not take it a step further....

Why all the effeminate pastors, youth pastors and "worship leaders?" There was a time in our country when the men who stood behind the pulpits were MEN...even taking up arms to defend their country and family when necessary.

Yep. Much rather have a pastor that could shoot the eye out of a squirrel at 50 yds than one that could quote Plato...

Just kidding but I do agree we have gotten to the point of pastors that quite frankly wimps. They are knowledgeable in most cases but most never serve in the military (and not as chaplains) or are cops or anything else.

You would think by looking at most pastors that God wanted us all to be pacifists and pansies. Instead of being like Samson, Moses, Elijah, and Jesus. Shoot Peter sliced a guy's ear off in the garden!!!

[rjcruiser]

Just kidding but I do agree we have gotten to the point of pastors that quite frankly wimps. They are knowledgeable in most cases but most never serve in the military (and not as chaplains) or are cops or anything else.

You would think by looking at most pastors that God wanted us all to be pacifists and pansies. Instead of being like Samson, Moses, Elijah, and Jesus. Shoot Peter sliced a guy's ear off in the garden!!!

Well my pastor is a retired Navy Chaplain:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:


Funny thing....I go by this church on the way to the post office near where I work. Ray of Hope Church....pastor Cynthia Hale:banginghe:banginghe

I actually just went to their website....Extravagant Worship, Extraordinary Service.:banginghe:banginghe:banginghe:banginghe

[gtparts]

My daddy never went when I was a kid and I was going every sunday......Now he goes nearly every Sunday and I hardly ever go...:huh:


Well, I feel confident that your daddy would like you to go, with or without him.

And I know your Father misses you in His house.

And I wonder if your brothers in Christ miss you enough to do anything to encourage you to regular attendance? If not, I know some donkeys to which this tail needs to be pinned.:cool:

Peace.

[The AmBASSaDEER]

I have never seen my Dad in a chruch, but my Momma took me EVERY Sunday and most Wednesdays too.

[Rouster]

My dad didn't go to church with us very much growing up (fine fellow, just didn't go to church much) but he was saved about 15 years ago and goes every week now.

[Buckmoses]

Something that just breaks my heart is seeing a woman bring her kids to church without their Daddy because he won't come. In my opinion, it is the father's responsibility to bring his family to church, not the mother's. My Mama took us all throughout our childhood because my Daddy wouldn't go. I guess that is what bothers me so much about it. When my brother died in 1993 Daddy told Mama that he was going to church the next Sunday. He got sick and never made it before he died but he got saved a month before he passed away.

It is not the father's responsibility, and the man is not the head of the household. that is one of those Patriarchal and Cultural changes that you literalists use to justify things that seemingly are wrong today but were ok back when like slavery and silly law. Most heads of the house fathers i know are a much poorer example of Christ than the mother. I looked to my mother growing up cause my dad was a church-attending deacon who also was a closet drunk and beat us from time to time, and, no, i ain't talking about those "Bible-approved" beatings. I love my dad, he quit drinking and is mellow today due to a stroke, and God's grace and mercy are sufficiant for his sins as well as mine-cause i grew up and became who he was, until an encounter I had with the Cosmic Christ.

[celticfisherman]

It is not the father's responsibility, and the man is not the head of the household. that is one of those Patriarchal and Cultural changes that you literalists use to justify things that seemingly are wrong today but were ok back when like slavery and silly law. Most heads of the house fathers i know are a much poorer example of Christ than the mother. I looked to my mother growing up cause my dad was a church-attending deacon who also was a closet drunk and beat us from time to time, and, no, i ain't talking about those "Bible-approved" beatings. I love my dad, he quit drinking and is mellow today due to a stroke, and God's grace and mercy are sufficiant for his sins as well as mine-cause i grew up and became who he was, until an encounter I had with the Cosmic Christ.

While your own personal experience is tragic and is deeply touching. That does not discount everyone elses and the way things are supposed to work.

[gtparts]

Help! What does this mean?

"but were ok back when like slavery and silly law.":huh:

[thedeacon]

Finally a good post. My mother or Dad did not attend any worship services.

I did not enter a church until I started dating my wife. She would not date me unless I went to church and she said she would never marry a Christian

More women should take this stance.

She directly and indirectly converted my whole family. Even one other person on this post was and indirect work of hers.

God knew what he was doing when he gave men muscles and women brains and heart.

[Big7]

I did not enter a church until I started dating my wife. She would not date me unless I went to church and she said she would never marry a Christian


??? :huh:

[pnome]

Breaks my heart too Jody.

It breaks my heart to see young children forced to endure religious indoctrination.

[Banjo]

Breaks my heart too Jody.

It breaks my heart to see young children forced to endure religious indoctrination.

I guess you would rather have them indoctrinated with the religion humanism....that breaks my heart.

[Buckmoses]

Too much of religion today is this "Me and Jesus" thing, and worship is a contest to see who can outlove Jesus, usually done by raising hands in the air. Jesus never meant or wanted to be an idol.. He wanted us involved with our fellow man, which is a legitimate, and needed form of humanism.

[celticfisherman]

Too much of religion today is this "Me and Jesus" thing, and worship is a contest to see who can outlove Jesus, usually done by raising hands in the air. Jesus never meant or wanted to be an idol.. He wanted us involved with our fellow man, which is a legitimate, and needed form of humanism.

If you tried harder you couldn't have missed the point of the WHOLE Bible any more. But not the worst I have seen in this forum.

[celticfisherman]

Breaks my heart too Jody.

It breaks my heart to see young children forced to endure religious indoctrination.

Breaks my heart to see kids grow up in the streets or anywhere other than church and the woods.

[jawja_peach]

that's one thing I can be so thankful for is a good husband that is the head of our home and who takes care of us, me and my boys. Now it wasn't always like this. I was Saved three yrs before my hubby was Saved. And I drug my son to VBS and Church. But not as much as I wanted to, and because of him not going, I got out too...I'm just so thankful that one day his heart was broken, God was dealing with him, and he finally surrendered. He has been Saved for 8yrs. now!! He has been called to preach and has Pastored a local church for two years. He is not Pastoring now, but we attend church and it is great!! I can not even imagine where I'd be if God hadn't Saved him. Well, I know I wouldn't still be married to him. But I can say that my marriage is better and stronger now than ever!! We've been through a lot, but he has stuck by me and been the type of man that the Bible instructs men to be. I am a submissive wife, because my hubby treats me like Christ treated the church. Just like the Bible says. I've been very sick, and he has treated me like a queen sometimes betters. When I was diagnosed being as sick as I am, our marriage changed. We realized certain things matter while others don't. Somethings are important and some aren't. And there is nothing no more important than God, our marriage and our children. Everything else is extra, ya know. Like hubby says, 'Our life is focused on those that live in these walls...everyone/anything else comes in after that. I think this is a great thread and I'm glad to be able to say that if it weren't for a great wonderful lady named Birdy, I don't know if I'd be Saved today!! Thanks to ALL the women that have worked in the Church, invited others to church, and witnessed. If it weren't for those women, I don't know if there would still be a local assembly for us to gather in.

[celticfisherman]

that's one thing I can be so thankful for is a good husband that is the head of our home and who takes care of us, me and my boys. Now it wasn't always like this. I was Saved three yrs before my hubby was Saved. And I drug my son to VBS and Church. But not as much as I wanted to, and because of him not going, I got out too...I'm just so thankful that one day his heart was broken, God was dealing with him, and he finally surrendered. He has been Saved for 8yrs. now!! He has been called to preach and has Pastored a local church for two years. He is not Pastoring now, but we attend church and it is great!! I can not even imagine where I'd be if God hadn't Saved him. Well, I know I wouldn't still be married to him. But I can say that my marriage is better and stronger now than ever!! We've been through a lot, but he has stuck by me and been the type of man that the Bible instructs men to be. I am a submissive wife, because my hubby treats me like Christ treated the church. Just like the Bible says. I've been very sick, and he has treated me like a queen sometimes betters. When I was diagnosed being as sick as I am, our marriage changed. We realized certain things matter while others don't. Somethings are important and some aren't. And there is nothing no more important than God, our marriage and our children. Everything else is extra, ya know. Like hubby says, 'Our life is focused on those that live in these walls...everyone/anything else comes in after that. I think this is a great thread and I'm glad to be able to say that if it weren't for a great wonderful lady named Birdy, I don't know if I'd be Saved today!! Thanks to ALL the women that have worked in the Church, invited others to church, and witnessed. If it weren't for those women, I don't know if there would still be a local assembly for us to gather in.

Good post lady!!! Congrats to you and your "hubby". That is great to hear.

[crackerdave]

Neither of my parents were church-goers.They tried for a brief period to force us all to go,but it was such a battle,they gave up after a few months.
I had to get beat up by the world for 25 years and hit rock bottom before I realized I was headed for an early grave or a life in prison.Nobody but God could save me - there wasn't anybody else that cared.