Ronnie T
Ol' Retired Mod
How long were Adam and Eve in the garden?
One year.
One thousand years.
Ten thousand years.
One million years.
One year.
One thousand years.
Ten thousand years.
One million years.
How long were Adam and Eve in the garden?
One year.
One thousand years.
Ten thousand years.
One million years.
One year or less. Eve had to know God to dislike His neighbourhood. One day she did and on that day she had to decide if she wanted to stay in the Garden or move to a "finer" home.
The wine to move away might have seemed like one thousand years for Adam.
However, one year or less is all it took them both, to figure out enough about all this God "stuff" and that it was not logical. ( When mama ain't happy nobody is happy... so even baby powder fresh Adam has doubts about the wisdom of God's ways...)
We must note that Adam and Eve were adults or at the age of puberty at least, when they were "made" into the Garden. Otherwise, if they had been younger they would not have been company to each other. This is because before puberty boys are "ick" and girls are "yark". Right?
So being mature adults and one flesh, they were both to a perfect place that they chose to leave... and backslide back to the old days and that, as it is still today, takes less than a year and definetly not thousands. Their's were the choices of individuals not generations.
Now their ancestors might have lived for thousands of yrs before this, but they did not know The Garden and its trees just like ours did not know the Kingdom.
Perhaps it is like when we are "called" to the Kingdom and must chose if we will stay. One yr.
Now to be honest I see the Adam and Eve story as the story of creation and within that creation the creature we call man. Time lines in the narative are mostly irrelevent except to distinguish and seperate the spiritual features that define us. If Adam and Eve lived and were part and parcel in a perfect Garden, time as we concieve it, was not even in the dictionary. Time started with Eve's doubts.
Some people will be happy with "I don't know" others will say thousands of yrs. But I say that in less than a yr of knowing God and the Garden, in less than a yr from the day God called them, that Adam and Eve were so inteligently perfect to be able to decide to say no thanks and be atheists. After this there spiritual IQ's went up and down depending on the the corn yields and how the sewers worked.
Is there a chance, without being labeled a heretic, that Moses was describing origins in the best terms he understood how to use when writing Genesis? We know Jesus used allegory in his parables, could there be allegory in historical accounts also?
But light was created on the first day! Ever thought about how there could be light without the sun? Hmm!
Scripturally, I don't know how you can reconcile thousands....seeing as Adam was 900 something years old when he died.
Actually, I don't know and I'm quite comfortable with that. Maybe Adam lived 900 years after the 4th day. I am confident that time was undefined as we now know it prior to 4th day of creation, as there was no sun or moon until the 4th day.
What is the definition of a day prior to day 4? Can any man know?
But light was created on the first day! Ever thought about how there could be light without the sun? Hmm!
I would say no. Why? Because he doesn't use allegory in any other place in his historical writings. Look at the context, look at the author, look at the subject matter at hand. Genesis is a historical account. No allegories, no parables, no rhymes etc etc.
It goes back to a discussion that was had on here a long time ago about how long a day was in Genesis 1. Could the day's of creation be millions of years? And I'd answer no.....again, Adam and Eve were created on Day 6. God rested on Day 7....and then we're told Adam was 900 something years old when he died.
Why would the author change the meaning of his units of time in the middle of his writing? Doesn't make sense. A day is a day. A year is a year.
How long were Adam and Eve in the garden?
One year.
One thousand years.
Ten thousand years.
One million years.
Hey that did not work to well", so he sent Jesus down to give us one more rule - Do unto others" and durn if we could not follow that one either.
Self-awareness and fear, and it is that self-centeredness that is the essence of sin. And why Jesus, who's message of thinking of others as yourself, compassion, and self-sacrifice is the antidote. It is a very meaningful story, but the value is lost and it becomes gibberish if you take it literally.7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?”
10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
Did you know that the earth rotated faster back then? Once apon a time an earth day was six hours because the earth was rotating fast relative to today. LOL Jesse Jackson might know, I'm sure he was there.
Anyway back then depending on which calander four or less days might have been equal to one of ours. I think the bench mark is 1840( to our time) or something like that if you what to go back and measure the length of days.
A six hour day would explain in part why some people "feel like an afternoon nap" and then complain they can't get more than 4-5 hrs sleep at night!
It is so silly watching people trying to put something purely allegorical into a human based timeline. To me the Garden of Eden is all of God's creation that can be experienced by man - as far as I am concerned we are still in the Garden of Eden and still messing it up.God gave us the perfect place to live with one rule not to eat the forbidden fruit and we did. So after a while God thought "Hey that did not work to well", so he sent Jesus down to give us one more rule - Do unto others" and durn if we could not follow that one either.
It is so silly watching people trying to put something purely allegorical into a human based timeline. To me the Garden of Eden is all of God's creation that can be experienced by man - as far as I am concerned we are still in the Garden of Eden and still messing it up.
God gave us the perfect place to live with one rule not to eat the forbidden fruit and we did. So after a while God thought "Hey that did not work to well", so he sent Jesus down to give us one more rule - Do unto others" and durn if we could not follow that one either.