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ambush80

Senior Member
So I get this app called Nextdoor. It's like a community bulletin board. Someone posted this:

Astrophysicist, "Does God Exist?"
Nathan D. from Edgewood · 1h ago

I know this is crazy early but I'm super excited about this!

I just heard from Astrophysicist Paul Wallace and he is coming to Edgewood on Sunday, August 27th to talk about "Does God Exist?" from a scientific perspective.


I looked up Paul Wallace (http://psnt.net/blog/about-the-author/) and found an article he wrote in HuffPo titled "How to talk to Creationists". From the article:

"It is good and necessary to learn as much about science and the cosmos as you can and to bring that into your dialogue. That is your responsibility. Engage them as deeply as your knowledge will allow. But winning an argument with a well-prepared and defensive creationist is not really possible. The point is not to be right but to kick the conversation down the road a little, and to learn about your parishioners along the way."

He seems interesting to me. I think I'd like to hear what he has to say. Here's some more articles he wrote for HuffPo. I think they're pretty interesting:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/paul-wallace
 

red neck richie

Senior Member
So I get this app called Nextdoor. It's like a community bulletin board. Someone posted this:

Astrophysicist, "Does God Exist?"
Nathan D. from Edgewood · 1h ago

I know this is crazy early but I'm super excited about this!

I just heard from Astrophysicist Paul Wallace and he is coming to Edgewood on Sunday, August 27th to talk about "Does God Exist?" from a scientific perspective.


I looked up Paul Wallace (http://psnt.net/blog/about-the-author/) and found an article he wrote in HuffPo titled "How to talk to Creationists". From the article:

"It is good and necessary to learn as much about science and the cosmos as you can and to bring that into your dialogue. That is your responsibility. Engage them as deeply as your knowledge will allow. But winning an argument with a well-prepared and defensive creationist is not really possible. The point is not to be right but to kick the conversation down the road a little, and to learn about your parishioners along the way."

He seems interesting to me. I think I'd like to hear what he has to say. Here's some more articles he wrote for HuffPo. I think they're pretty interesting:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/paul-wallace

Awesome let me know how it was and you thoughts. To know God you have to seek God.
 

GunnSmokeer

Senior Member
what does "coming to Edgewood on August 27th" mean?

August of this year-- 2017? Over 6 months from now?

And what is this "Edgewood" place? A theater? A church? A community center? Or just the neighborhood a few miles due east of downtown Atlanta, no more specifics known?
 

ambush80

Senior Member
what does "coming to Edgewood on August 27th" mean?

August of this year-- 2017? Over 6 months from now?

And what is this "Edgewood" place? A theater? A church? A community center? Or just the neighborhood a few miles due east of downtown Atlanta, no more specifics known?

The event I cited is being held at The Edgewood Church in East Atlanta. The co-pastor, Nathan Dean is hosting. Here are links he included and his e-mail:

Nathan@EdgewoodChurchAtlanta.org

http://edgewoodchurchatlanta.org/

http://onechristianlife.com/
 

jmharris23

Moderator
Is there anything else that you believe in like you believe in God where you have to believe in it before you can believe it?

Marriage. When I married my wife 17 years ago, I believed that she would stay with me for the long haul, but had no real concrete evidence to show you other than about 11months of dating her. You could say that I had a lot of faith and a little evidence.

After 17 years of being married, I now have a lot of evidence and a stronger faith.
 

660griz

Senior Member
Marriage. When I married my wife 17 years ago, I believed that she would stay with me for the long haul, but had no real concrete evidence to show you other than about 11months of dating her. You could say that I had a lot of faith and a little evidence.

After 17 years of being married, I now have a lot of evidence and a stronger faith.

You had evidence so you asked. If you would have had evidence to the contrary, you wouldn't have asked. Like for 11 months you said, "I love you", and she said, "Pfffft". Plus, based on the divorce rates, we all know it is a crap shoot but, willing to take a gamble.
 

SemperFiDawg

Political Forum Arbiter of Truth (And Lies Too)
To believe in God you first have to believe in God. No one can prove it to you.

Evidence and testimony are the foundations for belief in God and everything else in life. Hypocrisy is applying this principle to everything else in life but God.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Evidence and testimony are the foundations for belief in God and everything else in life. Hypocrisy is applying this principle to everything else in life but God.

What god? Where is this god? What evidence from your particular god stands out from all the other gods? What is unique?
 

Israel

BANNED
You had evidence so you asked. If you would have had evidence to the contrary, you wouldn't have asked. Like for 11 months you said, "I love you", and she said, "Pfffft". Plus, based on the divorce rates, we all know it is a crap shoot but, willing to take a gamble.
There is only one unchanging indicator that a man may be in for a divorce.
 

660griz

Senior Member
There is only one unchanging indicator that a man may be in for a divorce.

Pool boy always at your house...and you don't have a pool?
 

Miguel Cervantes

Jedi Master

ambush80

Senior Member
What is this divorce rate you speak of?

Surely it isn't the unscientific, estimated 50%?

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/01/137440/divorce-rate-in-america-statistics

What does this mean?

"All of this means that no single percentage is ever going to apply to everyone. Ahead, we've collected a few of those factors that can increase — and lower — your chances of divorce."


Interesting data:

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/12/15983/

"Some incorrectly believe that the 50 percent number comes from a simple comparison of the number of weddings and divorces in a given year, yet no serious scholar or demographer has ever measured divorce rates that way."

Why is this not a good way to measure the divorce rate? If there are 1 million married couples in a given year (including newly weds) and that same year 500,000 couples get divorced, doesn't that mean a 50% divorce rate for that year?
 

660griz

Senior Member
What is this divorce rate you speak of?

Surely it isn't the unscientific, estimated 50%?

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/01/137440/divorce-rate-in-america-statistics

Cohort measure rate.
The 40-50% number comes from a detailed analysis of various population demographics, including ages, life span projections, etc. It represents a sophisticated projection of a calculated risk, much like projected life span for babies born today. . . . [It] is a valid projection under current conditions and it pertains to new, first time marriages.

I should have stated divorce risk instead of rate. Sorry.
We can ignore that last sentence about the divorce rate. Really not very relevant to my point anyway.
 

Gaducker

Senior Member
The love of YOUR child is one of those things that you believe in and have no evidence of until you have your newborn in your arms.
 
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