Jerusalem the capital of Israel?

[gordon 2]

Did the US recognize Jerusalem today as the capitol of Israel? I read different media accounts?


???

The day after the Supreme court upheld the Pres. foreign entry ban?

???

 

[PappyHoel]

Trump is Supposed to announce it tomorrow. I like swatting a hornets nest. Especially one that's been building since 700AD

 

[gordon 2]

Trump is Supposed to announce it tomorrow. I like swatting a hornets nest. Especially one that's been building since 700AD

Do you expect the swatter (s) to be stung? I do...

 

[NE GA Pappy]

Do you expect the swatter (s) to be stung? I do...

at least some of the neighbors that have for years poked the nest and dared anyone else to swat it good

 

[NE GA Pappy]

Isn't Israel the only country in the world that says its capital is one city, and others countries say that another city is the capital????

what happened to a country being able to declare its capital to be whatever city that they wanted it to be?

 

[Artfuldodger]

The US should respect Israel's choice of Jerusalem as its capital, and recognize it as such.

 

[NE GA Pappy]

Can you imagine France telling us that St Louis Mo is the capital of the USofA and putting an embassy there? We wouldn't stand for it, yet countries all over the globe do that to Israel

 

[GeorgiaBob]

Under a US law, passed in 1995, the US is supposed to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. A provision in that law allowed the President to postpone that recognition for 6 months if a "compelling reason" required the delay. Literally, every six months since the law was signed by Clinton, the President has found a "compelling reason."

Now Trump may choose - tomorrow - to NOT delay implementation of a 22 year old US law.

Liberal heads will be asploadin'.

 

[Artfuldodger]

Weird that we would pass a law to recognize what capital city a country chooses. But since we did, we should honor that law, weird as it is.

 

[PappyHoel]

Under a US law, passed in 1995, the US is supposed to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel. A provision in that law allowed the President to postpone that recognition for 6 months if a "compelling reason" required the delay. Literally, every six months since the law was signed by Clinton, the President has found a "compelling reason."

Now Trump may choose - tomorrow - to NOT delay implementation of a 22 year old US law.

Liberal heads will be asploadin'.

This, biblical prophecy aside.

 

[hobbs27]

The US should respect Israel's choice of Jerusalem as its capital, and recognize it as such.

My understanding is most Israelis don't want this. They know it's just going to be more blood shed for nothing.
We shouldn't have ever recognized Israel as a nation... We should stay out of recognizing Jerusalem as their capital.

 

[gordon 2]

Do you think that with the official recognition of Jerusalem as capitol of the state of Israel that the USA and its citizens are now complicit with the state of Israel and the citizens of Israel, who are equally Zionists-- ( using an interpretation of the bible as a political bases to build beyond the Palestinian Mandate and expand the state and land of Israel)-- in violations of over 60 United Nations resolutions accusing Israel of crimes against humanity? Or are they in tune to the will of God?

Will this further divide Christianity with those who are Zionists and those who are not? Or this will all be forgotten in 6mts? And life will go on pretty much as is usual? Do you foresee US Christians who are Zionists label Christians who are not as "Liberals" and "snowflakes"? Are US interests and its citizens safer for this new policy if it comes out today? For many today who have fanatical hatred towards a religion, in this case Islam, does it make the political events equal to other events of ethnic cleansing of the past where religion was a factor? Are Zionists in the USA today complicit? or tuned in unflinchingly to the will of God?

 

[NE GA Pappy]

My understanding is most Israelis don't want this. They know it's just going to be more blood shed for nothing.
We shouldn't have ever recognized Israel as a nation... We should stay out of recognizing Jerusalem as their capital.

where do you get this understanding from, kimosabe'?

It certainly isn't from talking to the people living in Jerusalem.

I do believe your 70AD disease has clouded you ability to reason

 

[gordon 2]

where do you get this understanding from, kimosabe'?

It certainly isn't from talking to the people living in Jerusalem.

I do believe your 70AD disease has clouded you ability to reason

This from Israeli Times this morning:

Palestinian Envoy Warns: Trump Move on Jerusalem a 'Declaration of War'
The Palestinian envoy to Britain calls Trump's change on Jerusalem policy 'a kiss of death to the two-state solution,' while the Pope and Mideast countries express acute concern....

So the question? Do Palestinians live in Jerusalem today? Do some Palestinians still live in Israel today?

 

[PappyHoel]

This from Israeli Times this morning:

Palestinian Envoy Warns: Trump Move on Jerusalem a 'Declaration of War'
The Palestinian envoy to Britain calls Trump's change on Jerusalem policy 'a kiss of death to the two-state solution,' while the Pope and Mideast countries express acute concern....

So the question? Do Palestinians live in Jerusalem today? Do some Palestinians still live in Israel today?

Will we be attacked before or after this is announced?

 

[gordon 2]

Will we be attacked before or after this is announced?

Good question.


US recognition of Jerusalem 'kiss of death' for peace process

This is the headline on BBC.

So if it is not fake news, then yours is a very good question because the opposite of the "kiss of death" for the peace process might just be escalation of conflicts not only limited to Israeli and Palestinian and the Middle East neigbourhood.??? but also to the entities thought overtly complicit with the Zionist scheme of Israeli politics...?

Maybe?

What should be the response of Christians?


This is the Balfour ( British) Declaration, and at this time ( 1917) Palestine was a protectorate of Brittian. Can you pin point from a Christian perspective where things might have diverted from original intents? Or what has transpired in recent history was intended by men and God? :::::




Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour

What would be our best Christian response be?

 

[NE GA Pappy]

This from Israeli Times this morning:

Palestinian Envoy Warns: Trump Move on Jerusalem a 'Declaration of War'
The Palestinian envoy to Britain calls Trump's change on Jerusalem policy 'a kiss of death to the two-state solution,' while the Pope and Mideast countries express acute concern....

So the question? Do Palestinians live in Jerusalem today? Do some Palestinians still live in Israel today?

the answer to your questions are Yes.

Palestinians live, work and own property in Jerusalem. They live in other cities in Israel. The Israeli government gaunatees all its citizens the same rights, whether they are jews, arabs or whatever

 

[gordon 2]

the answer to your questions are Yes.

Palestinians live, work and own property in Jerusalem. They live in other cities in Israel. The Israeli government gaunatees all its citizens the same rights, whether they are jews, arabs or whatever

Nice try. Two questions. Are you a Christian?

 

[NE GA Pappy]

Nice try.

what do you mean by nice try?

have you been there and see what goes on everyday?

 

[hummerpoo]

Do you think that with the official recognition of Jerusalem as capitol of the state of Israel that the USA and its citizens are now complicit with the state of Israel and the citizens of Israel, who are equally Zionists-- ( using an interpretation of the bible as a political bases to build beyond the Palestinian Mandate and expand the state and land of Israel)-- in violations of over 60 United Nations resolutions accusing Israel of crimes against humanity? Or are they in tune to the will of God?

Will this further divide Christianity with those who are Zionists and those who are not? Or this will all be forgotten in 6mts? And life will go on pretty much as is usual? Do you foresee US Christians who are Zionists label Christians who are not as "Liberals" and "snowflakes"? Are US interests and its citizens safer for this new policy if it comes out today? For many today who have fanatical hatred towards a religion, in this case Islam, does it make the political events equal to other events of ethnic cleansing of the past where religion was a factor? Are Zionists in the USA today complicit? or tuned in unflinchingly to the will of God?

Ten sentences, ten "?"s. It's easy enough to see why you wore out you "?" key last year.