gemcgrew
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Who says that?Easier to say that rather than try to explain how consciousness is a unique gift only bestowed upon humans by a higher power.
In formulating your response, was thought prior to consciousness or awareness?
Who says that?Easier to say that rather than try to explain how consciousness is a unique gift only bestowed upon humans by a higher power.
Do you remember how it made you feel?I recall a dream (but have forgotten the particulars) in which the "I" in the dream was asked a riddle by another in the dream. I was stumped...but when the answer was given I was surprised at how trenchant was the response.
Do you remember how it made you feel?
I think you passed the "mirror test".Yes. In the dream it seemed normal...this "other" fellow was pretty clever in his answer. But I awoke astounded considering the seeming ramifications.
I just watched the trailer. I am going to try and watch it tomorrow.Have you ever seen the movie Inception? Good flick.
Who says that?
In formulating your response, was thought prior to consciousness or awareness?
I think you passed the "mirror test".
Two boys were having fun in the school playground at lunchtime. The school bell rang, signalling that lunchime was over. As they turned to head back to class, a gust of wind scooped up some dirt off the ground and blew it right in their face. When the wind stopped, one boy's face was covered with dirt, while the other boy's face was perfectly clean. But it was the boy with the clean face who rushed to the washroom to wash his face, while the boy with the dirty face went straight to class.
Assuming both children had equally good hygiene habits, can you explain this strange behavior?
What do you think happens to a person's brain when they die? What goes missing to make them dead? It would seem like all the ingredients are still there 30 seconds after death.
Do we know the main ingredient that keeps us alive?
what goes missing is the electrical charges created in and used by the brain. It's just like an unplugged toaster. The toaster is functionally sound, but without the electricity flowing it's not "alive" so to speak.
None.Not quite. When the electricity in people goes off something happens to telemeres that's so far un-reversable. They degrade and can't be repaired.....yet.
Then what? What happens when we can reverse or permanently stave off death? Is this something we should try to accomplish? I say absolutely yes. What would be the theological implications of this technology for believers? Anyone?
Not quite. When the electricity in people goes off something happens to telemeres that's so far un-reversable. They degrade and can't be repaired.....yet.
Then what? What happens when we can reverse or permanently stave off death? Is this something we should try to accomplish? I say absolutely yes. What would be the theological implications of this technology for believers? Anyone?
That's interesting to think about but its got a lot of angles to consider.What happens when we can reverse or permanently stave off death? Is this something we should try to accomplish? I say absolutely yes.
That's interesting to think about but its got a lot of angles to consider.
First, we already more or less do that - patient flat lines, slap the paddles on him/her and get the heart going again.
But what does reverse/stave off death actually mean?
Permanent coma?
Bed ridden forever?
I cant help but think about in terms of like taking a 50 year old truck and rebuilding the engine.
Sure now the engine works again but the rest of the parts are still 50 years old and rusting/rotting away.
Not to mention, and this sounds awful cold but its worth considering, but who and how do we take care of a society full of people who are alive but cant work and all the other implications of reversing/staving off death.
We already warehouse the elderly, sick etc etc.
Now multiply that by XXXXX.
Who gets the stave off death shot/procedure? Those that can afford it? Those that are deemed "worth living longer"?
Huge, gigantic, massive can of worms.....
I do not think science is a thing in itself. If it were to be, it should stop killing people first.Do you think science should try to cure death?
I do not think science is a thing in itself. If it were to be, it should stop killing people first.
It is underway as we speak. I just don't expect much from science, other than for it to continue to claim too much for itself. It is inherent in its flaws. As you pointed out, science is humans.I suppose I meant science as a pursuit performed by scientists.
Some scientific discoveries are used to kill people, others are used to cure people. Do you think it's a worthwhile pursuit to try to find a cure for death?
That's interesting to think about but its got a lot of angles to consider.
First, we already more or less do that - patient flat lines, slap the paddles on him/her and get the heart going again.
But what does reverse/stave off death actually mean?
Permanent coma?
Bed ridden forever?
I cant help but think about in terms of like taking a 50 year old truck and rebuilding the engine.
Sure now the engine works again but the rest of the parts are still 50 years old and rusting/rotting away.
Not to mention, and this sounds awful cold but its worth considering, but who and how do we take care of a society full of people who are alive but cant work and all the other implications of reversing/staving off death.
We already warehouse the elderly, sick etc etc.
Now multiply that by XXXXX.
Who gets the stave off death shot/procedure? Those that can afford it? Those that are deemed "worth living longer"?
Huge, gigantic, massive can of worms.....
I have to agree.Yes.
With more cans found in every can opened.
The Bible was written by man. It has the same flaws that man has made everywhere else. In fact it has more flaws because from the time that it was written until now man has been able to better understand many of the things that were explained in the bible.It is underway as we speak. I just don't expect much from science, other than for it to continue to claim too much for itself. It is inherent in its flaws. As you pointed out, science is humans.
The cure for death is an issue for the unbeliever. A believer knows that he lives as long as Christ lives.