Hey,Dex - this is your thread,right?
Ronnie, I would love to discuss it, because i love to learn, and could gain a lot from these discussions, but you have the a crowd that sits on the sideline that start whining every time a good discussion gets going. so anyway, I appreciate your stance on grace. I really do. But there is other bible to consider. EX: Rom 7:12Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Jesus said, If you love me, keep my commandments. Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Are we under the law for salvation? No. But we should love the law and do our best to keep it, because we love Christ and his comandments are not greivous to us....
It is my belief as i have moved around alot in my life and have tried hundreds of different churches from charismatic to catholic and everything in between that they just go crazy on "grace"... I am speaking of the protestant churches here. Grace, Grace, Grace and more grace.
Grace is great, there will be NOT ONE single person in heaven who got there without grace... but grace is just a small part of Christ. The way grace is taught these days in most churches is that that is the end all be all of Christianity... just say a 10 second prayer and you are now saved and full of grace... But it just dont work that way. Theres law, repentance, obedience, commands, holiness, the will of God and so on. Grace is just a part of the whole picture. But almost every church just focuses on grace. If you ask every person in heaven how they got there they will say grace but also, repentance, obedience, loving Christ, and faith. Anyway, I am rambling a will shut up now. Love discussing this with you. I dont know you but see you as a brother.
If you're talking to RonnieT, you got me alllllllll wrong.
I completely agree with you're words above.
It is my life calling and ambition to live a perfect life before my Savior..... And God forgives me when I fail. When I often fail.
I was not referring to you as how could I do that if I dont know you??
Man, some of you people really wear your Christianity on your sleeve around here... ruins any fun in posting here.
Don't get ruined.
I just thought you had read me incorrectly.