bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
You absolutely rely on the words of men as your beliefs.I also don't trust men ! Hence my prayers and medication !
You absolutely rely on the words of men as your beliefs.I also don't trust men ! Hence my prayers and medication !
This ^I wouldn't know who or what to pray to without the words of the untrustworthy men who wrote the things telling us who to pray to.
You would have absolutely no knowledge of any god had it not been written first by men.
You absolutely rely on the words of men as your beliefs.
Yep.
100%
You absolutely rely on the words of men as your beliefs.
Ok. So far we have established that you Do not trust men, but you rely on them because you trust that nobody would lie about leading a loving and caring life.I also don't trust men ! Hence my prayers and medication !
Ok. So far we have established that you Do not trust men, but you rely on them because you trust that nobody would lie about leading a loving and caring life.
Are you often contradictory?
Let me gues, Yes and No!!!!!
You know what I meant in my post . No need for the back and forth it's childish .
Nah...it’s not even about that. You can weave in and out of history with research and find tons of “errors” seen as misquotes, misinterpretation, etc. I’m not foolish enough to state that with man’s translating there are no errors.I know, I know, I know...you don't need "them" now that you've used what they put together to get you started and you have filled in your own blanks since the initial baseline with the spirit stuff.
Like your KJV...written roughly 1300 years AFTER the earliest copies, and written by Englishmen who had no idea about Hebrew. And taken from what copies the Catholic Church allowed to exist (they burned the rest) But , you use it because it works for you and therefore you excuse the errors with "the spirit makes up for all that" thoughts.
I get it.
Don't forget who decided Acts made the book though...
You can’t have both in one sentence.Faith without doubt leads to moral arrogance, the eternal pratfall of the religiously convinced. — Joe Klein
What would you be disregarding? 99% of religion could care less about the age of the earth, don’t care if the Big Bang is how it was created, don’t care if man was created through the evolution process (formed from the earth) , don’t care if the sea really parted, etc.I understand what faith is and what faith means.
It is not faith that I have a problem with.
It is the source that tells me to have faith.
This may come as a surprise to you but....I just do not believe nor do I have faith that the contents of the bible are the words of any sort of deity. To the point of exactly ZERO on a scale of ZERO to Ten or Zero to Infinity on how much faith I have in it.
I am convinced to the point that I think it is more likely than not that the Bible and it's contents are the works of man. Period.
I think that it is more likely than not the works of various mostly anonymous authors (OT) who wrote about their history as a culture in a time when many if not all ancient cultures were truly convinced that they were special because a God or Gods liked them more than it liked their neighbors. History is FULL of those stories.
Then I think, mainly because the history of religions worldwide and mainly for this discussion, the Jewish religion was constantly being challenged from inside and out with new cults and leaders and sects and splinter groups (just like Christianity is) which all had their followers....comes a time where some latched on to a young Apocalyptic preacher and followed him(just like others before..during..and after..did). He made his run and got killed for it.
But, there was always someone else willing to Capitalize on it and Saul/Paul was able to say the things that people wanted to hear at the right time to start a religion around a man who was long dead.
If you study the history of how Christianity was decided upon to be the main religion for the most powerful Empire of the world, you will see it had NOTHING to do with divinity. It had everything to do with politicians, clergy and what was felt that would best be able to control the masses.
I am sorry, but I do not buy into the writings of some old guy telling me that some god told him that I should disregard all the things that just do not add up because I should just have faith.
I dont have faith in that source of faith.
None of us do. But many are deceived into thinking that there’s not a possibility that they’re wrong.I don't want to think wrongly.
None of us do. But many are deceived into thinking that there’s not a possibility that they’re wrong.
Now.....I’m taking my ball and going home for a few days. My son is getting married this weekend and I have some family / friends to entertain and a lot of preparation ahead. ?
I don't want to think wrongly.I don't want to think wrongly.
You contradicted yourself so No, I do not know what you meant.You know what I meant in my post . No need for the back and forth it's childish .
It's the added words, added verses and changed words Spotlite. They are not errors. They are willful changes.Nah...it’s not even about that. You can weave in and out of history with research and find tons of “errors” seen as misquotes, misinterpretation, etc. I’m not foolish enough to state that with man’s translating there are no errors.
But I can tell you one thing, Acts is real. It’s not the overwhelming emotion you describe related to a ball game either.
Spotlite, why do I get along in life just as well as any other person without all that assurance.?What would you be disregarding? 99% of religion could care less about the age of the earth, don’t care if the Big Bang is how it was created, don’t care if man was created through the evolution process (formed from the earth) , don’t care if the sea really parted, etc.
What they care about is the ability to read these stories for instruction and the assurance that a way will be made in their situation.
Have a blast! Enjoy the celebration. Congrats to you and your Son. Please accept a long distance handshake from Pennsylvania.None of us do. But many are deceived into thinking that there’s not a possibility that they’re wrong.
Now.....I’m taking my ball and going home for a few days. My son is getting married this weekend and I have some family / friends to entertain and a lot of preparation ahead. ?