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And as Wes said, it amazed me that the only member of the expedition they lost was near the beginning, to appendicitis. They don't make many folks like those guys any more.
Those were tough times and tough times make men tough.
We’re in easy times and easy times make men soft.
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Those were tough times and tough times make men tough.
We’re in easy times and easy times make men soft.
You want to know what a different breed those men were? As soon as they arrived back in St. Louis after 2 years of hardship, many of them collected their wages, outfitted again, and headed right back.
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You want to know what a different breed those men were? As soon as they arrived back in St. Louis after 2 years of hardship, many of them collected their wages, outfitted again, and headed right back.


What I would give to been able to experience what they saw and did in those times. Can you only imagine seeing those herds of elk and buffalo when they got to the Plains?
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What I would give to been able to experience what they saw and did in those times. Can you only imagine seeing those herds of elk and buffalo when they got to the Plains?
It would definitely be an adventure to say the least.
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You want to know what a different breed those men were? As soon as they arrived back in St. Louis after 2 years of hardship, many of them collected their wages, outfitted again, and headed right back.
A different breed is an understatement.
Just a touch insane maybe, by today’s standards.
But that was the only life most of them knew and probably wouldn’t have it any other way.
By the way I enjoyed reading your stories on your blog. Good stuff!
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:12 AM
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If you like this book read River of no return, about Teddy Roosevelt in S America,,,, great read,,,,actually I think it was River of Doubt,,,, I'm old,,,,
Yep, that's another good one. It's also on my bookshelf. They don't make presidents like Teddy any more, either.

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What I would give to been able to experience what they saw and did in those times. Can you only imagine seeing those herds of elk and buffalo when they got to the Plains?
I can only imagine. I was surprised at how they described bighorn sheep as being found in herds on the plains back then, too.
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:22 AM
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They also buried food and supplies for the return trip. They would trade for female companionship from the Indians. At night , someone would have to protect their supplies from the natives trying to take it while they slept. Today most of us wouldn’t even think about camping without a rv or air conditioning. Yes today we are spoiled and soft compared to the men during that time. I hope when a movie is eventually produced , they do the story justice .
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I haven't read the book,,,, I want too though,,,, but were they under a time constraint?
Because I wonder why they didn't wait for spring to cross the rockies,,,,
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Incredible book-have been considering reading it again. One of the things that surprised me was that so many of the men started to prefer the taste of dog meat to deer, elk, or bison. The mental images this book creates are second to none in the world of North American wilderness experience.
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Just added it to my list, thanks.

I'm in the middle of a book on Daniel Boone, by John Mack Faragher. It's 1775. Daniel has just led an expedition into old Cantucke, to open up the Wilderness Trail. His party is being harassed by Shawnee.
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They also buried food and supplies for the return trip. They would trade for female companionship from the Indians. At night , someone would have to protect their supplies from the natives trying to take it while they slept. Today most of us wouldn’t even think about camping without a rv or air conditioning. Yes today we are spoiled and soft compared to the men during that time. I hope when a movie is eventually produced , they do the story justice .
The main reason they wanted to get back to the forks of the Missouri so much was the big barrel of likker that they buried there on the way west.
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The main reason they wanted to get back to the forks of the Missouri so much was the big barrel of likker that they buried there on the way west.
The original “I bet you could use a cold one Clark “

Thanks for the heads up. I’ve never read it, but I will
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Another good read,,,, but not US history,,,, is about Magellan,,,, I believe it was called,,,, voyage of discovery,,,, couldn't put it down,,,, not a lot of books that you can say that about,,,,
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Never heard the thing about eating dog but a dog did travel with L&C the whole journey. He is painted into art representing the trip.
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I think that there is a show on the History Channel about this coming up soon.
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Never heard the thing about eating dog but a dog did travel with L&C the whole journey. He is painted into art representing the trip.
Lewis' dog Seaman was stolen by natives while they were camped on the Columbia. Lewis lost his mind. He sent hunters to bring the dog back with orders to kill anyone who refused to give it up. When the natives saw they were being pursued, they left the dog and fled.
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There is a Ken Burns documentary on this which is great, much like all of his work. I prefer that to a movie.
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the indians let them have sex with their wives ,hoping to get white mans power,also they carried an air rifle
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