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Old 08-28-2008, 09:07 AM
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I've never put up a double ladder before. How hard is it to do by yourself? I'm planning on assembling all but the legs at home tonight, and just focus on getting it up the tree once I'm in the woods. I'm sure I'm not the first to have to do this alone, but I'd heard you wanted two (even three) sets of hands to put these things up.

Any tips or tricks to help keep me from breaking my back would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:10 AM
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i've done it its a pain but it can be done jusdt make sure to take your time and dont get in any hurry and make sure to secure the bottom first
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:11 AM
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I wouldn't do it. First, it's dangerous and second it's dangerous. I always take someone with me when I set up any kind of stand.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:16 AM
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I did it but i wouldn`t do it agian!
Can you say pain in butt
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:18 AM
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Be very very careful if you attempt to put any heavy stand up by yourself ! I've put up 2 20' ladder stands by myself before and can tell you two things: yes, it can be done and no, I'd never do it again if I could help it. I managed it by throwing a rope over a limb, tying one end to the top of the stand and then attaching the other end to the atv or the truck and using that to pull it up. But getting it tied off and set correctly took a long time. Put up another top heavy stand by setting it in the truck bed, backing up close to the tree, and then pushing it up from the truck bed. None were easy to do. Most stands are very top heavy especially 2 man stands and can slip out with you easily. I'd make sure to use ropes and pulleys or wait until I could get help to put them up if I were you. Not worth the risk of being hurt.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:24 AM
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IF I had to do it, which I have I have always used a ratchet strap long enough to go around the bottom of the tree and attach to both side of the very bottom of the ladder rungs so that it cannot slide out as I am trying to walk it up the tree.

also from the top of the stand use the longest ratchets you have and hang them from each side of the seat portion so that they are hanging loose and you can grab them from the ground after the stand is against the tree.

very tough to do considering a lot of the doubles weigh between 70-100lbs...and are very top heavy.

after you finally get it to the top then move the ratchet up as high as you can reach from the ground. then take the two loose ones and cross them around behind the tree and out to the ladder.

this way when you have to climb up you have enough to hold the ladder in place while you attach it to the tree at the top
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Take an extension ladder with you and put a pulley in the tree. If the stand is heavy it still won't be easy, but easier than trying to push it up by yourself. Wear a hardhat.
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Great ideas! Mine is a 15' stand. I guess I could take out one of the sections and make it a 12'. That should make it a bit easier to handle. I could then raise it to the full 15' next time I've got somebody with me.
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Take an extension ladder with you and put a pulley in the tree. If the stand is heavy it still won't be easy, but easier than trying to push it up by yourself. Wear a hardhat.
That is kind of like what I have seen done before. A fellow I used to hunt with liked to hunt from tall heavy ladder stands and rigged up a pulley and windlass system like the one in the sketch below for raising those monster stands into position. We would use a climber stand to go up and put the top pulley around the tree. We also would use boards to make the bottom of the ladder uprights stay in place while raising the ladder.

Be safe and take someone with you, even if they arent able to help you at least they can be there if you get hurt.
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:57 AM
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Thanks Milkman. Great drawing.

I may just have to wait. Sounds like the abundance of advise so far is to "BE CAREFUL". Maybe I'm biting off more than I can chew. No reason to end my season two weeks before it's supposed to start.
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:26 AM
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Yep on the being careful, the only serious accident we've ever had at the lease was by a guy putting up a ladder stand alone, he broke both ankles and a leg
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:27 AM
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I've done it, A rhino 2 man , Had to use a winch, but hey that wat they're good for!!! TYL my 4 wheeler was heavy enough!!!!
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like others said, it wouldnt be that bad but its so dang topheavy. i dont think i could or would do it by myself.
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It will make things easier if you drink a 12 pack or more of beer before doing this........
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I have done it several times moving my daughters stand around and although it is not easy, it can be done. Tried sticking the legs of the stand at the base of the tree and walking it up, worked, but took several tries since the legs would kick out and the stand would come down. Also tried standing it up and sticking the extra sections on as you work it up the tree, very difficult but did work. Easiest way was to walk it up but be careful not to drop it on ya when it kicks out. Always attach a ratchet strap around the ladder portion when you do get it up against the tree before climbing up and securing the upper straps. But, I would recommend using 2 people, much safer! Mark
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Best to get help....You could hurt yourself and or destroy
your stand......
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Yep. I'm just going to wait for help. There's plenty of other things to be done prior to the 13th.
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Yep. I'm just going to wait for help. There's plenty of other things to be done prior to the 13th.
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...walking it up, worked, but took several tries since the legs would kick out and the stand would come down.

Hence my recommendation of a hard hat!


The man I knew using a pulley had a 25 foot stand and that thing seemed to weigh a ton and a half. He thought he had ordered the "light" model.
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I did it by myself two weeks ago, I used an extension ladder to strap it to the tree.
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It can be done...
Items needed
(1)Hunting stand (of course)
(1)Tree (...)
(1)Extension ladder
(4)Heavy duty ratchet straps (long straps)

First, find your area and tree you want...
Second, put your stand on the side of the tree you want to face out...
Third, put your extension ladder up the other side of the tree...
Forth, climb up ladder and ratchet one of the straps as high as you can to the tree (the strap does not have to be tight just snugg)...
Fifth, hook two ratchets one on each side of the ratchet strap you have around the tree(ratchets facing outward and so they crank or tighten when you pull down on them)...
Sixth, attach the other ends of the straps and hooks to each side of the stand...
Seventh, climb back up the extension ladder and crank both ratchets at the sametime and stand will move up the tree...
Eight, once treestand is in place take forth ratchet strap and secure it to the tree...Done

I put up a double buddy stand with an extra 4' section on it this way with miminal trouble. I would suggest if you are accident prone to put a safty harness on and strap it to the tree when your on the ladder in case you fall, but if the stand falls (don't know how) but if it does you will be away from the stand cause you will be on the other side of the tree. About the only problem I encounter with this was I had to move the stand away from the tree a couple of times cause it caught the tree. All I did was just wiggle the ladder part of the stand just a bit to move it and the second time I stuck an old pine limb between the stand and tree and once the stand reached about 4 or 5 feet off the ground it was no problem it went right up. Again if your accident prone please don't try this with out a harness or a buddy. Just my 2 cent worth.
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It can be done...
Items needed
(1)Hunting stand (of course)
(1)Tree (...)
(1)Extension ladder
(4)Heavy duty ratchet straps (long straps)

First, find your area and tree you want...
Second, put your stand on the side of the tree you want to face out...
Third, put your extension ladder up the other side of the tree...
Forth, climb up ladder and ratchet one of the straps as high as you can to the tree (the strap does not have to be tight just snugg)...
Fifth, hook two ratchets one on each side of the ratchet strap you have around the tree(ratchets facing outward and so they crank or tighten when you pull down on them)...
Sixth, attach the other ends of the straps and hooks to each side of the stand...
Seventh, climb back up the extension ladder and crank both ratchets at the sametime and stand will move up the tree...
Eight, once treestand is in place take forth ratchet strap and secure it to the tree...Done

I put up a double buddy stand with an extra 4' section on it this way with miminal trouble. I would suggest if you are accident prone to put a safty harness on and strap it to the tree when your on the ladder in case you fall, but if the stand falls (don't know how) but if it does you will be away from the stand cause you will be on the other side of the tree. About the only problem I encounter with this was I had to move the stand away from the tree a couple of times cause it caught the tree. All I did was just wiggle the ladder part of the stand just a bit to move it and the second time I stuck an old pine limb between the stand and tree and once the stand reached about 4 or 5 feet off the ground it was no problem it went right up. Again if your accident prone please don't try this with out a harness or a buddy. Just my 2 cent worth.
When there is a will there is a way. I like the way you do things. Sounds safe to me and no buddy needed to help either. Now tell me this I have a 14' tripod stand that I need to put up by myself can this be done and how?
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When there is a will there is a way. I like the way you do things. Sounds safe to me and no buddy needed to help either. Now tell me this I have a 14' tripod stand that I need to put up by myself can this be done and how?
Hmmm...good one, I don't own a tripod but if I had one and spent a couple of hours in the woods sweatin' my butt off and cusing like a long sore sailor I might could figure it out if I had a tree or some sort of vehicle and a couple of ratchet straps
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Hmmm...good one, I don't own a tripod but if I had one and spent a couple of hours in the woods sweatin' my butt off and cusing like a long sore sailor I might could figure it out if I had a tree or some sort of vehicle and a couple of ratchet straps
You gave me an idea. I could put two legs down on the ground and one up in the air then attach a rope to the top seat portion of the tripod with the other end attached to a 2x4 stob I drive into the ground. With the stob out in front of the stands legs several feet I could then use a come along attached to the stob to crank the tripod up into the air.
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Just find someone to help you, much much easier...........but still can be a pain, some of those two mans are heavy!
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You gave me an idea. I could put two legs down on the ground and one up in the air then attach a rope to the top seat portion of the tripod with the other end attached to a 2x4 stob I drive into the ground. With the stob out in front of the stands legs several feet I could then use a come along attached to the stob to crank the tripod up into the air.
I'm pretty sure your 2X4 stob will come shooting up out of the ground like a lactose patient an hour after a gallon of milk and your pod will slide on the ground better than Otis Nixon did for the Atlanta Braves, cause that's a very heavy stand! Your leverage needs to be up high to pull the stand up. Attach high on tree/structure & to the stand top with a ratchet strap/rope and use your 2X4 stob in the ground to keep the stand from sliding. If there are not any trees or solid structures around where you want to place it I'd find some help. But if you insist on doing it yourself remember, move the head the rest will follow. Gluck bro
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The easiest way is a toss up between renting a crane or using a heavy lift helicopter preferably the kind used by the military. Seriously, tried it, done it, almost killed myself and will never do it again. if you are low on friends, try hiring a good day laborer. Or at least make sure you have good health insurance and are paid up on your life insurance
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Well it's not a 'stob' but I've seen pictures of a system used to set up quad pods and box stands using a long pipe with a large eye bolt on top. They run a long chain from the quad pod, thru the eyebolt to the truck hitch and have the long pole upright but slanted toward the stand. As the truck pulls the chain, the pole rises upward and pulls the stand up. That seems to work fine for quadpods and box stands. Now for a ladder stand....get you some folks to help.
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It's called "Falling Derrick" method of raising a structure.

http://www.n6rk.com/falling_derrick_...rrick_gme.html

It's used sometimes by ham radio operators to raise towers.
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