Nebraska Man Catches 241 Trout Over Limit Costing Him Over $6500

[BornToHuntAndFish]

Looks like Nebraska seriously protects its fish. Saw this on the Outdoors Pressroom that pointed me to the web link below:


http://www.omaha.com/article/2010012...TS07/100129612


Thursday January 28, 2010

He was only 241 over the limit

By David Hendee
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

A Nebraskan's taste for trout has left him up a dry creek for a year and $6,518 poorer.

Timothy Bare, 53, of Valentine, Neb., was caught possessing 249 trout. The legal limit is eight (8).

A Cherry County Court judge revoked Bare's Nebraska fishing and hunting privileges for one year and assessed him $5,875 in damages, $600 in fines and $46 in court costs.

The investigation began Sept. 13, 2009, when Valentine police officers contacted Frank Miller, a Nebraska Game and Parks Commission conservation officer, about fish found in a large trash bin.

The investigation led to Bare's home. A search of a freezer in the garage revealed 249 trout, five undersized largemouth bass, two perch, a channel catfish, a bluegill, seven salmon steaks and a package of processed wild game.

Nebraska's possession limit is defined as the total number of fish or game that a person may have in his physical control or storage.

Bare's fines included penalties for the undersized bass. He pleaded guilty Monday.

“This case is a good example of cooperation and good rapport between different law enforcement officers and agencies,” Miller said.

People may report game-law violations to Nebraska Wildlife Crimestoppers by calling toll-free 800-742-7627. The call will remain anonymous and the caller may be eligible for a cash reward.

[Dog Hunter]

So how does Ga read. Dove says possession, does that mean at home in the freezer also.

[deerhunter09]

I was born and raised in Nebraska, and unfortunately there is alot of open spaces and not enough game wardens to patrol everywhere. I've witnessed people keeping way more than their limit many times.
If you call to report them, by the time the Warden gets there,they are either gone or have had someone come to get the full cooler and they just keep on fishing.
Nebraska has the best fishing I've ever experienced, it's a shame that some continue to exploit it.
My Dad lives there and fishes daily and has a new story each time I talk to him about someone, who is usually from another country, keeping obscene amounts of fish.

[Chris S.]

I'm trying to understand this "law" in Nebraska...are you telling me that I cant go fishing 33 times a year there as a resident and catch a legal limit each trip and then freeze them if I so choose in my freezer at home......because Nebraska decided that I can only put 8 fish in my freezer at home..........if he was catching fish and throwing them in a trash can I can see that as wanton waste but who decides "when I decide" to eat legally caught fish in my freezer...........thats ridiculous.............look out Nebraskans,no big fish fries in the future unless your neighbors bring 8 fish each.I hardly ever keep freshwater fish anyway but that law is absurd.

[rockwalker]

info taken from the GA DNR website

Freshwater Game Fish Daily Limits
It is unlawful to take in one day or to possess at any one time, except at a residence or commercial storage facility, more than the daily creel limit for each species. It is unlawful to possess more than a total of 50 individuals of all the game fish listed in this section, except channel and flathead catfish.

[Chris S.]

Originally Posted by rockwalker

info taken from the GA DNR website

Freshwater Game Fish Daily Limits
It is unlawful to take in one day or to possess at any one time, except at a residence or commercial storage facility, more than the daily creel limit for each species. It is unlawful to possess more than a total of 50 individuals of all the game fish listed in this section, except channel and flathead catfish.

Good job on finding that ,I'm sure it will be of good use to someone.

[deerhunter09]

It may seem absurd, but it's all about conservation. If your limit is eight, and you go out and catch and keep eight every day, and so does everyone else who's fishing- pretty soon there are no fish left.
The problem starts when people routinely keep more than there limit, which is pretty common. You can easily catch upwards of 100 or more Whitebass on a good day, for example. How is a game warden going to know if what is in your freezer was caught all at the same time or not?
It's the morons who keep everything they catch that causes laws like this to be created to protect the fisheries so everyone can enjoy the fishing, not just the greedy few who don't have the foresight to understand that you have to turn some loose to reproduce so there will be some to catch next time.
It's really no different here or anywhere else, we have to try to conserve our resources at least a little, so our children can have the same opportunities to hunt and fish that we all do.

[Chris S.]

Originally Posted by deerhunter09

It may seem absurd, but it's all about conservation. If your limit is eight, and you go out and catch and keep eight every day, and so does everyone else who's fishing- pretty soon there are no fish left.
The problem starts when people routinely keep more than there limit, which is pretty common. You can easily catch upwards of 100 or more Whitebass on a good day, for example. How is a game warden going to know if what is in your freezer was caught all at the same time or not?
It's the morons who keep everything they catch that causes laws like this to be created to protect the fisheries so everyone can enjoy the fishing, not just the greedy few who don't have the foresight to understand that you have to turn some loose to reproduce so there will be some to catch next time.
It's really no different here or anywhere else, we have to try to conserve our resources at least a little, so our children can have the same opportunities to hunt and fish that we all do.

What you are saying is understandable to a certain degree.....but it isnt going to happen.Thats like saying legalize drugs to a certain amount and people are gonna abide.....addicts will still abuse regardless.I am a law abiding sportsman ........if there are multiple license holders in a home then they are each entitled to a kept limit of fish.

This is an OLD argument that I am tired of seeing...........panfish usually dont struggle to reproduce in a healthy lake until foriegn species are introduced that predate on their fry ..... I am not a Bass Eater and have never kept and dont even fish for panfish and I release all live bass so none of this applies to me in the real or now......get it........Conservation doesn't start with releasing fish it starts with learning how to keep the eco system stable...thankfully some folks do keep their LEGAL fair share of fish or lakes would be overpopulated.......shad and bluebacks are introduced to lakes that really dont need them and thats where your panfish start diminishing........I know who keeps the undersized and overlimit amounts of fish..I have seen it all my life.......most of the time they will tell you themselves...they are the ones who like to brag about it.

Now..back to Nebraska....The guy obviously broke state law with short fish in his possession and sounds like a slob fisherman having that many TROUT in a freezer........thats a no-no but my disagreement is If I'm reading it correctly..with being able to keep only 8 fish "period" in the Nebraskan freezer........I still dont like that but thats Nebraska.How can anyone fairly assume without seeing first hand anyone and or everyone Didn't catch their fish legally.


I suppose if /nebraskans own more than one pair of blue jeans it's fair to assume they stole all the others or robbed someone of them ,huh?

[shoalbass]

He should have eaten them sooner.

[deerhunter09]

Originally Posted by Chris S.

What you are saying is understandable to a certain degree.....but it isnt going to happen.Thats like saying legalize drugs to a certain amount and people are gonna abide.....addicts will still abuse regardless.I am a law abiding sportsman ........if there are multiple license holders in a home then they are each entitled to a kept limit of fish.

This is an OLD argument that I am tired of seeing...........panfish usually dont struggle to reproduce in a healthy lake until foriegn species are introduced that predate on their fry ..... I am not a Bass Eater and have never kept and dont even fish for panfish and I release all live bass so none of this applies to me in the real or now......get it........Conservation doesn't start with releasing fish it starts with learning how to keep the eco system stable...thankfully some folks do keep their LEGAL fair share of fish or lakes would be overpopulated.......shad and bluebacks are introduced to lakes that really dont need them and thats where your panfish start diminishing........I know who keeps the undersized and overlimit amounts of fish..I have seen it all my life.......most of the time they will tell you themselves...they are the ones who like to brag about it.

Now..back to Nebraska....The guy obviously broke state law with short fish in his possession and sounds like a slob fisherman having that many TROUT in a freezer........thats a no-no but my disagreement is If I'm reading it correctly..with being able to keep only 8 fish "period" in the Nebraskan freezer........I still dont like that but thats Nebraska.How can anyone fairly assume without seeing first hand anyone and or everyone Didn't catch their fish legally.


I suppose if /nebraskans own more than one pair of blue jeans it's fair to assume they stole all the others or robbed someone of them ,huh?

It's not just panfish, that was just one example. The same goes for Walleyes, Bass, whatever.
The law isn't that different here, it appears you can't have more than fifty at any one time.
It's just a difference of opinions, personally I think it is ridiculous to keep that many fish, regardless of fresh or saltwater, the supply is not limitless. To each his own, I guess.

[Chris S.]

Originally Posted by deerhunter09

It's not just panfish, that was just one example. The same goes for Walleyes, Bass, whatever.
The law isn't that different here, it appears you can't have more than fifty at any one time.
It's just a difference of opinions, personally I think it is ridiculous to keep that many fish, regardless of fresh or saltwater, the supply is not limitless. To each his own, I guess.

Last time I checked 50 and 8 were not that close numerically...............secondly if you had read my post you would see that I also mentioned bass as you mentioned white bass and then the trout.... Just to clear the underlying ???'s that you may have.......I dont like slob fisherman any more than you do.

[Rich M]

Rules like that are pretty crazy - say they have a 15 crappie limit. All you can keep in your freezer is 15! Insane!

The way I interpret the GA rules is that you can not possess any more than 50 fish in your boat or vehicle on any given day. Your house is excluded from that rule.

OTHERWISE all the guys out whacking & stacking crappie & bream are illegal and immoral. Many guys on here go to fill the freezer come the crappie and white bass runs - you tell me you can't keep more than 50 fish in your freezer? NUTS!

I also liked the reference to guys keeping all they catch. Maybe they only go once or twice a year and keep 50 fish each trip. While you go every weekend and keep 4 fish per trip - who does more damage to the fish stocks? The guy who keeps 100 at once or the guy who keeps 200 over time?

[joe k]

There is a huge difference between panfish and trout. Trout are a protected species in probably every state. The law is the law. He broke it. There is a reason for the limits.......not for us to debate.

[Money man]

Originally Posted by joe k

There is a huge difference between panfish and trout. Trout are a protected species in probably every state. The law is the law. He broke it. There is a reason for the limits.......not for us to debate.

Whoa Nelly....reminds me of a Preacher I once knew!

[Rich M]

Trout are no different from bluegills here in GA - we can use 'em both for bait... LOL!