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Old 03-29-2012, 03:09 PM
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I have been tossing around the idea of upgrading to a .454. I currently own a S&W 629 classic in .44 mag and a Ruger Redhawk in .41 mag. I'm just curious of the recoil differences between the .44 and .454 and does the added performance really make a difference on deer and hogs?
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:47 PM
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I have a Smith & Wesson 629 and A Ruger Super Blackhawk with Magnaport's Predator Package. I am not as young as I once was, but while I can endure full house .44 Magnum loads, I find .44 specials convert my backup Bear guns to "fun guns". Had a chance to travel to South Carolina several years ago and purchase a large stock of .44 specials from the widow of a shooting buddy who passed suddenly, leaving behind a stash of ammo that would make most of us envious. Never regretted acquiring those .44 specials, or some other rounds, like .38 super. I've seen what a .44 magnum does to a 350 pound bruin. I don't feel the need for .454's , .460's, or 500's. If I owned a .454 I'd likely use .45 long Colt ammo to make it enjoyable. I've fired all the above calibers. Not willing to pay to be tormented. I've been to Alaska twice, perfectly comfortable with the Predator and full house Magnum loads. It's heavy enough to make that kind of power manageable, even for a old man with arthritus.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:27 PM
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Thanks Michael! I may just put the money into a new .44 mag SuperBlack Hawk to replace the one I sold a few years ago.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:37 PM
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I just started shooting the new SBH my wife gave me for Christmas last year,and I too feel no need for more power especially for deer or hogs I have yet to try the 44 specials but I plan to really soon.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:10 PM
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Hey Shakey how do you like that Taurus? I'm in the process of purchasing one for general purpose work so I can scope/red dot my redhawk .41.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:42 PM
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Hey Shakey how do you like that Taurus? I'm in the process of purchasing one for general purpose work so I can scope/red dot my redhawk .41.
"general purpose"? They are loud and obnoxious!
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:15 PM
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Ok general purpose was a bad description. But it'll be the gun that I carry as a back up while bow hunting and the gun I carry when scouting areas prone to hold hogs. I can deal with loud and obnoxious cause its not gonna be a plinker anyway.
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I believe the .454 chambered Super Redhawk to be one of the best revolvers that I've owned. If I'm going to shoot a big bore magnum the .454 is my choice. I'm a fan of the .452 sized bullet too. the Ruger and the Casull were meant for each other.
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Old 04-03-2012, 10:23 AM
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If you are looking at the 454. I would look at a Bfr. From what I have researched the quality is superior to a ruger.
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I've had two .454 Raging Bulls - my wife even likes them - now, that being said, I've been using the Winchester 250 grain and the Hornady 240 grain XTP's, we had some 300 grain loads, and they were very harsh out of my 6.5".

Using BVAC 300 grain .45LC bear protection loads, the 6.5" feels like a .38 Special.

Still, it's not a caliber for everyone - particularly the ammo cost, just over $1 per shot for the affordable stuff.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:34 PM
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My biggest concern with the .454 is the recoil aspect! I have some issues with my hands and wrists and am not sure how well I could tolerate it.
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Old 04-03-2012, 06:39 PM
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After having 44's, 454's, 460's, and the almighty 500, the srh's in 44 and 454 are the ones I kept. It's fun to shoot with long colts and has more than enough stopping power when loaded with 300 grain soft or hollow points for anything in the lower 48 . It's a slight handful with hot loads or buffalo bore ammo but its no wrist breaker , the boom is worse to me than the recoil.
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Had a Freedom Arms chambered in .454. Was everything I always thought it would be. Due to the aches and pains associate with old age creeping in, I now I choose to hunt with a couple of Bisleys chambered in .45 Colt. If you handload, that's all you need around here...at least it's all I need.
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The .454 Casull (SRH) I owned resides with one of my Bear Hunting Buddies

I'd put the .454 slightly under or near par with the ability to rubberize my arm much like my .444 Marlin (BFR)

Knock Down power on the Fire End for sure...

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The .454 Casull is not for the recoil flinch inclined shooter. A quote: The .454 generates almost 5 times the recoil of the .45 Long Colt, and about 75% more recoil energy than the .44 Magnum. (See the Handgun Recoil Table for specifics.) It is way out of the class of all but the most experienced and recoil tolerant shooters.
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Old 04-04-2012, 07:40 PM
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Having said that...I am not a large man...and I love mine!!! I am 5'8 and 165 lbs. the link from above quote:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/454casull.htm
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I know opinions and mileage may vary, but I've had the opportunity to shoot a lot of different wheel gun calibers and in my experience, I would rank them this way from worst to most manageable recoil.

.460
.454
.500
.480
.44 Mag

All but the .454 were Smith and Wessons, the .454 was a Taurus.
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If you are looking at the 454. I would look at a Bfr. From what I have researched the quality is superior to a ruger.
UH what is a BFR?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:22 PM
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UH what is a BFR?

If I'm not mistaken BFR is defined as Big Frame Revolver on the Magnum Research website.
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:27 PM
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Thanks guys for the input on the recoil factor. I broke my hand several years ago and it limits my ability to shoot the big boomers. It would have been a bad experience to have put a lot of money in a setup that I couldn't enjoy!
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Had one over 20 years ago,was a Finely made gun but the recoil was horrendous!
I had to wear a Light cotton glove so when it rolled in the hand it would not cut me !
Killed quite a few deer with 44 Mags and see absolutely no use for a 454 Casull !
Just my oppinion But I would get either a 45 Colt or a 44 mag,cheaper,recoils less and will kill deer just fine.

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The .454 in a Super Redhawk is very manageable. It's not something you'll likely shoot 100 round in one sitting with, but it's not that bad in a Ruger. I'm as comfortable shooting one of those as I am shooting a 29 Smith loaded with magnums. If you want to plink then get some .45 Colt rounds for it. I prefer a .45 to any .44. I have zero interest in a .50 caliber anything.

If you're going to enjoy shooting any caliber other than a 9mm or .22 rimfire, then you'll need to get into loading your own. The recoil of any of them is easier on me, and much less painful than the cost of factory ammo for them.
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The .454 Casull is not for the recoil flinch inclined shooter. A quote: The .454 generates almost 5 times the recoil of the .45 Long Colt, and about 75% more recoil energy than the .44 Magnum. (See the Handgun Recoil Table for specifics.) It is way out of the class of all but the most experienced and recoil tolerant shooters.


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The Winchester .250gr super x factory loads for .454 are easier to handle and still plenty bad medicine.
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