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Old 05-08-2011, 06:42 PM
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Default Corn or quality deer feed survey poll. Which do you use.

Hey guys,I have a survey poll I am doing and would truly like your answers and feedback. In Feb I spoke to a group of private land owners, and plantation owners around the SC GA border on deer health and nutrition.Over 66% of them were putting out corn yearly for deer instead of a good quality deer feed in the past.Corn now at $10.00 a bag and offering no real nutritional or health value ,it only makes sense to use a quality product. First tell us what state your in and what part( N east S east, middle etc..) and what you use and why.Thanks so much and look forward to your answers.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:35 PM
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I prefer the record rack products and they have not let me down yet.
I am in the middle GA area and put out this time of year around 120lbs a week. The results have been great.
This has been a five year going feeding program along with mineral sites but no their mineral product. I use the cow minerals(they are cheaper and have the proper levels of trace minerals contain with about 12% salt.) And also year round food plots.
Increased body size and genetic potiential has increased extremely well. I have kept up with some specific deer for about 3 years and have shown great improvements including healthly looking wieghts all year long. Also I think it helps with adjusting deer to your presence. My scent is laid out all around those feeders alot and I can really say in and around those locations deer are less spooky than on the southern ends of our property. I am a strong believer in the supplemental feeding with quality made products becase of what is all in these feeds. Corn is fine but really has alot of fat content minus the minerals placed in the quality feeds.
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The people you surveyed were probably buying it in bulk and paying a decent price for it and the reason they are using it. Corn is low in protein (3-4%) and high in energy and the reason deer hit it so well in the winter. A friend of ours started a protein/suplimental feed program about 6-7 yrs ago and he is really seeing a big difference in antler production and weight gain in the deer heard. He uses Purina Deer chow (in a trough feeder) and a granular protein for sheep/goats (poured on the ground). He also started spreading chicken litter around his property and on all white oaks to produce more natural brows and acorns. The place is located in Stewart Co Ga.

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Old 05-09-2011, 02:22 PM
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I throw corn, deer think its candy, but, as you know, will be switching to protein pellets as soon as I can get feeders in place. I use cattle minerals now but will upgrade soon. I am in Dooly County, which I guess is South Central. I will throw corn during the cold months with protein. At 450 a ton its just about the same price as corn but with much better returns. I also plant Durana and have wheat and oats if fall along with turnips.
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I plan on mixing it.
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We have just started this year with mixing record rack and corn in all our trough feeders we will see if it makes a difference.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:07 AM
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Neither. The hogs are fat enough already. I do plan to plant some quality food plots for the turkey and deer.
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Good post
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:01 PM
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we use both right now in 50 lb bags they cost the same as for results until i start to use just one or the other ill never know
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:12 AM
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what about using "sweet feed" in trough feeders like is used for horses. Its half as much as corn, and twice the protein at 10-12%

never used it, but thinking of trying....ya'll ever heard of using it
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Deer wil eat and so will everything else in the woods too but if your goal is to get more protein to the deer this would not be my choice to do it.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:43 AM
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Deer wil eat and so will everything else in the woods too but if your goal is to get more protein to the deer this would not be my choice to do it.
I agree with you totally, I was just trying to fing cheaper alternative to corn to mix with protein pellets
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Old 05-13-2011, 10:14 PM
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Stay away from using sweet feed as it can be very harmfull to deer.It can cause lactic aciddosis in their system and changes the ph in their rumen.When this happens levels of good bacteria and enzymes need to breakdown food sources are destroyed.Stop with the corn and sweet feed.Protein levels need to be at least 16% to start making a difference.Us a quality deer feed that's designed for deer.If you have any health/nutrition questions Catch 22 pm me and will be glad to help you out.Thanks.
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Hey WildlifePro,
Just started using a broadcast feeder this year...d/t forest fire wiping out most of our land (120 acres). Some cypress and oaks are trying to come back in the swamp areas. Started with Record Rack feed. After reading some of your post, I switched to Record Rack (Deer & Elk) mainly because a (little) less fat and it "listed" higher" levels of Vitas & mins. And its the "better" feed available in my area (TSC). No hogs for now d/t the fires. Coons minimal. Coyotes are rampant!!! Know I need to plant out some plots. I'm in Ware County ( NW of Okefenokee Nat'l Refuge). Will be planting pine in winter to replace timber crop. Any suggestions on best / durable food crops for the deer. We have high and dry & low in the swamp. BTW Really gained insight on your post. Thanks for the info.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:39 PM
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Hey WildlifePro,
Just started using a broadcast feeder this year...d/t forest fire wiping out most of our land (120 acres). Some cypress and oaks are trying to come back in the swamp areas. Started with Record Rack feed. After reading some of your post, I switched to Record Rack (Deer & Elk) mainly because a (little) less fat and it "listed" higher" levels of Vitas & mins. And its the "better" feed available in my area (TSC). No hogs for now d/t the fires. Coons minimal. Coyotes are rampant!!! Know I need to plant out some plots. I'm in Ware County ( NW of Okefenokee Nat'l Refuge). Will be planting pine in winter to replace timber crop. Any suggestions on best / durable food crops for the deer. We have high and dry & low in the swamp. BTW Really gained insight on your post. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the kind words, I just sent you a pm on different high protein, high tonnage annuals for your area that should do real well for you.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:42 PM
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The club we just lost last year had been supplemental feeding for 10 years. We had trough feeders and gravity feeders (about 100 of them that held 400-600 lbs of feed). We used corn, soybeans, and Godfrey's 8pt (they are in Madison Ga). Personally, I wouldn't waste my time with supplemental feeding. If you're looking for protein content from a food source, then chicory and clover are going to provide the highest levels of protein (around 30-45 percent). I get the fact that some people don't have the property in which they can plant food plots and a feeding program may be a better option for those people, but if what you are wanting to do is give deer a higher nutritional diet, I don't think you can beat food plots for the nutritional value and the overall cost to plant them is cheaper (they last around 5 years with proper care).
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JMH,
Thanks for the info. Are the chicory and clover low maintence? Our property is about an hour from where I live. We get there about once maybe twice a month. Will the deer have to compete with any other game for the same plots.
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Well I've been waiting on you to get back to me. Protien feed is my choice over corn .
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I have had a feeding program in the N GA Mountains for 8 years. I can only plant small foodplots due to the terrain, so I have several. I mix Protein pellets and corn, and feed from Jan-Mar and have foodplots the rest of the year. Have also been using minerals prepared for deer year round. Have averaged 15+ lbs weight increase and more "shooter" bucks..
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Well I've been waiting on you to get back to me. Protien feed is my choice over corn .
Hey Hustler,I left you several phone messages last winter but did not hear from you.If I remember you had to talk with club members. Ill pm you in a sec.Thanks
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Old 05-02-2012, 01:30 PM
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Ladderman4....the short answer to your question is "yes", they are low maintenance. You have to set yourself up for it to be that, though. Every spring (sometime in March) you will have to spray the food plots with "Arrest". This kills the grass that attempts to grow in the plot but will not kill the chicory or clover. After that all I do is mow it every 28 days (I wouldn't cut it any lower than 5-6inches). June, July and August; you don't typically touch it unless you get a good amount of rain. Sept/Oct fertilize with 0-20-20 fertilizer and if the deer do their job you shouldn't have to cut until next spring. Don't put a fertilizer with nitrogen in it on the food plots. The chicory makes it's own nitrogen and feeds the clover. Hope this helps out and we all appreciate your service to the community.
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Old 05-02-2012, 02:12 PM
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Thanks JMH, and all the rest of ya'll for your help. Looking forward to get'n started and seeing results this season.
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I manage 1350 acres in Meriwether County and we have been using a 21% proten pellet there for the last 5 years. We have 13 though feeders that we run from Jan 1st - Mid March and then from May 16th - early August, we normally end up feeding around 20 tons per year and we also have mineral stations at each feeder that are trace mineral / dical / feed salt. The body size and antlers on our deer have made good gains in 5 years. We killed 6 bucks last year and live weights were from #195 - #235 and gross antler scores from 115" - 146". We also killed 26 does last year and live weights averaged around #120 with our heaviest being #153 and #148.
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middle georgia. i use corn for the reasons of its cheaper, you can use it in your traditional spin cast type feeders, dotn have to worry abotu the rain, dotn have to worry about the deer getting adjusted to it, and its mainly just to get the deer thru the tough months and keep the does on the property for when the rut rolls around.

if i could get a feed for close to the same cost, convenient to buy, no real head ache in getting the deer to eat it, and it could be used in my spin cast feeders, i would switch right away.
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