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Oh no. He'll be going after the department.
I hope he cleans their clock. My dad lost his best friend Max, a yellow lab that I gave him about 3 years ago. Would have thought he lost his own brother. I cant imagine the thought of this scenario with Dad and Max.
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To bad about the dog. Don't forget that those cops came because of your buddy's alarm. They did not know anything about his house or dogs, they did know that they could be fired on but came in anyway to help him.
Never have seen a dog with a gun! The cop and the department needs to start using some common sense,you just don't shoot someones dog on his porch.Sorry for his loss.
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Hmm, the house dog is barking at the cops instead of at possible burglars. Must be no burglars.... Why can I think of that but the cops cannot ???
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Just goes to show that intelligence has no place in todays police force. Common sense is not a per-requisite for securing a job as a LEO. I know that they are not all bad, but it does seem that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Just goes to show that intelligence has no place in todays police force. Common sense is not a per-requisite for securing a job as a LEO. I know that they are not all bad, but it does seem that we are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Ya know what, they may not be all bad, but they are certainly not going to get too outraged at their own when they do stupid idiotic things.

They circle the wagons for their own. It's a shame that they do that. It makes them all look bad.
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I "WAS" Lukes Daddy. drhunter is one of my 3 best friends and has loved Luke like a son also. This whole senseless act didn't have to happen. The only mistake in the story was about protocol. The shooter said it was protocol to shoot an attacking dog and the detective said there was no protocol about dealing with dogs. I posted this in another section. Here are links to it and the face book post.
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I just talked with someone from channel 2 and they're going to run the story.
The 2 cops that shot my dog never asked my name or for id. They also never checked to see if I had anyone tied up inside.
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Hmm, the house dog is barking at the cops instead of at possible burglars. Must be no burglars.... Why can I think of that but the cops cannot ???
Good point.
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I "WAS" Lukes Daddy. drhunter is one of my 3 best friends and has loved Luke like a son also. This whole senseless act didn't have to happen. The only mistake in the story was about protocol. The shooter said it was protocol to shoot an attacking dog and the detective said there was no protocol about dealing with dogs. I posted this in another section. Here are links to it and the face book post.
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I just talked with someone from channel 2 and they're going to run the story.
The 2 cops that shot my dog never asked my name or for id. They also never checked to see if I had anyone tied up inside.
Sorry about the info mistake about the protocol Rob.

I just wonder what the definition of an "attacking dog" is now. I suppose that varies.
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I just wonder what the definition of an "attacking dog" is now. I suppose that varies.
I talked to one of my LEO buddies about this, he told me he would shoot a dog (and has on a few occasions) if it was trying to bite him....not simply barking. I kind-of understand that. Even though that doesn't seem to be the case here.
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I talked to one of my LEO buddies about this, he told me he would shoot a dog (and has on a few occasions) if it was trying to bite him....not simply barking. I kind-of understand that. Even though that doesn't seem to be the case here.
I don't understand it at all.

Why wouldn't he use pepper spray? A dog is doing what it's supposed to do. It doesn't know it's a cop intruding. It just knows that someone is coming into their home or onto their property that they are not familiar with. Shooting it is overkill.

I'm sorry he has that mentality. If a cop brings a K9 into my home or onto my property and I shoot it, I will get jail time for sure. How is that right?
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I don't understand it at all.

Why wouldn't he use pepper spray? A dog is doing what it's supposed to do. It doesn't know it's a cop intruding. It just knows that someone is coming into their home or onto their property that they are not familiar with. Shooting it is overkill.

I'm sorry he has that mentality. If a cop brings a K9 into my home or onto my property and I shoot it, I will get jail time for sure. How is that right?
YEa, you make a good point. Pepper spray would be more appropriate. Hadn't thought about that. The dog is just doing what it was born to do.

Do they all carry pepper spray?
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Glad you said that because I just learned that this cops supervisor told my friend at the scene that this is PROTOCOL. PROTOCOL??? REALLY????

This is the way these cops are trained??????????

You have got to be kidding me! Shoot first ask questions later folks. Right now I'm so mad I can't hardly type this.
There should be extreme circumstances for any cop to damage property as well. You know,"Protect and Serve"is the motto.
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I talked to one of my LEO buddies about this, he told me he would shoot a dog (and has on a few occasions) if it was trying to bite him....not simply barking. I kind-of understand that. Even though that doesn't seem to be the case here.
First had knowledge that it is a called Federal Animal Abuse to shoot a dog that has not been documented as a vicious animal. (Had to have already bitten someone before and documented) Penalty is $1000 fine, 4 years probation plus 40 hour community service. This is for me and you not cops!
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I "WAS" Lukes Daddy. drhunter is one of my 3 best friends and has loved Luke like a son also. This whole senseless act didn't have to happen. The only mistake in the story was about protocol. The shooter said it was protocol to shoot an attacking dog and the detective said there was no protocol about dealing with dogs. I posted this in another section. Here are links to it and the face book post.
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I just talked with someone from channel 2 and they're going to run the story.
The 2 cops that shot my dog never asked my name or for id. They also never checked to see if I had anyone tied up inside.
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I would point my finger in the direction of the alarm company for not knowing you were the owner of the home cause you told them you were. They dispatched the cops. When dispatched they have no clue what they are approaching on any kind of call. They have no clue if someone is in the home or building when they get there. They did what they were supposed to do, they found an open door, no knowledge of any dogs,(which don't matter), the dog came at them, they are investigating an alarm, they have no idea if someone is tied up or dead or not even there. They should of asked you for ID once they found you there but you are lucky you weren't cuffed and then questioned because you were where an alarm was going off at.

You cop bashers really need to stop and think about it from their point of view. I am sorry for the dog and I can understand the hurting from the loss, but please try to look at it from all angles before threatening anything.
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Well all 3 local TV stations, 11alive, Channel 2, and Fox 5 are all running the story.

I hope he sues the crap out of the PD.
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I would point my finger in the direction of the alarm company for not knowing you were the owner of the home cause you told them you were. They dispatched the cops. When dispatched they have no clue what they are approaching on any kind of call. They have no clue if someone is in the home or building when they get there. They did what they were supposed to do, they found an open door, no knowledge of any dogs,(which don't matter), the dog came at them, they are investigating an alarm, they have no idea if someone is tied up or dead or not even there. They should of asked you for ID once they found you there but you are lucky you weren't cuffed and then questioned because you were where an alarm was going off at.

You cop bashers really need to stop and think about it from their point of view. I am sorry for the dog and I can understand the hurting from the loss, but please try to look at it from all angles before threatening anything.
It aint got nothing to do with the Alarm Company. Nice try though. They were following proceedures so you don't know what you are talking about.

I'll bash a cop any darn time I want to thank you. Especially when they are this freeking stupid.
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You cop bashers really need to stop and think about it from their point of view. .
The simple matter of fact is an idiot, trigger happy cop pulled his service weapon and drew down on a harmless dog in cold blood just because the dog was doing what its SUPPOSE to do! This is becoming ALL TOO common these days!

There was simply NO excuse for this and he should be held accountable for his actions!

Im not a cop basher. I respect "most" LEO's and realize they have a tough job for little pay. With that said, I have no respect for idiots that pull their weapon, fire and ask questions later no matter if they are wearing a badge or not.

Again, there is NO valid excuse for this type of behavior!
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It aint got nothing to do with the Alarm Company. Nice try though. They were following proceedures so you don't know what you are talking about.

I'll bash a cop any darn time I want to thank you. Especially when they are this freeking stupid.

But it does, when he tripped the alarm and couldn't provide the pass code to it they triggered the cops. And I most certainly do know what I am talking about. I have a system too.

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The simple matter of fact is an idiot, trigger happy cop pulled his service weapon and drew down on a harmless dog in cold blood just because the dog was doing what its SUPPOSE to do! This is becoming ALL TOO common these days!

There was simply NO excuse for this and he should be held accountable for his actions!

Im not a cop basher. I respect "most" LEO's and realize they have a tough job for little pay. With that said, I have no respect for idiots that pull their weapon, fire and ask questions later no matter if they are wearing a badge or not.

Again, there is NO valid excuse for this type of behavior!

I will agree it does happen too often nowadays, many have forgotten that less lethal is supposed to be the first step.
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But it does, when he tripped the alarm and couldn't provide the pass code to it they triggered the cops. And I most certainly do know what I am talking about. I have a system too.

Put yourself in their shoes first!
So you're going to blame the owner? And no you don't know what your talking about because that part of the story hasn't been revealed yet.

Here it is know it all. He was trying to get the password and because he was in a rush to get to the Hospital to see his new Grandson, he couldn't find the file where it was.

That does not give the right to the Police to come in to his house un announced and shoot his dog.

So as you can clearly see. You don't know a darn thing about what you speak of.

I knew the defend the cops crowd was going to show up but the problem is for yall is that you don't have a leg to stand on.

1) they are supposed to announce when they enter a premises. There is no debating that
2) Why didn't they have someone at the front door too announcing? If there was a criminal there and he heard shots at the back door, guess which door he's going to.
3) Why didn't they run the tag of the vehicle that was parked there to see if it was the owner of the home?
4) Why did they stealth through the yard and park the police car out of sight. 99.9% of all alarms that go off at residences are done by residents. Couple this with number 1 and makes you wonder just how much of the super cop Koolaid they were drinking. They didn't even consider that it could be the owner of the residence. They were out for some hero status
5) How many burglers take a dog to the heist? Answer that one know it all. Why would a burgler not be screaming because the dog had just torn him a knew one?
6) Why didn't they ask for the mans ID. Not one time did they ask for it. They didn't ask if had someone tied up. They didn't even ask his name. I'm sure you got a quick answer for that one too know it all.
7) why didn the cop just exit the house and cover all the exits until help could arive? Hmmm know it all? Why didn't they use some other means know it all? They could have done a thousand different things know it all. They heard the dog barking while they were still on the outside and they had to know it was there.

So you see I looked at this from all angles and of course I tried to take the cops point of view into account and all I am left with is that this is an idiot super cop wannabe.


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so you're going to blame the owner? And no you don't know what your talking about because that part of the story hasn't been revealed yet.

Here it is know it all. He was trying to get the password and because he was in a rush to get to the hospital to see his new grandson, he couldn't find the file where it was.

i read his post in the other section

that does not give the right to the police to come in to his house un announced and shoot his dog.

they don't announce themselves at an alarm call, not protocol

so as you can clearly see. You don't know a darn thing about what you speak of.

no you don't

i knew the defend the cops crowd was going to show up but the problem is for yall is that you don't have a leg to stand on.

1) they are supposed to announce when they enter a premises. There is no debating that

not on an alarm they do not

2) why didn't they have someone at the front door too announcing? If there was a criminal there and he heard shots at the back door, guess which door he's going to.

That i can not answer, as there should of been both covered.
3) why didn't they run the tag of the vehicle that was parked there to see if it was the owner of the home?

Alarm call comes first not the vehicle

4) why did they stealth through the yard and park the police car out of sight. 99.9% of all alarms that go off at residences are done by residents. Couple this with number 1 and makes you wonder just how much of the super cop koolaid they were drinking. They didn't even consider that it could be the owner of the residence. They were out for some hero status

no they want to go home at the end of their shifts.


5) how many burglers take a dog to the heist? Answer that one know it all. Why would a burgler not be screaming because the dog had just torn him a knew one?

You don't know how many times alarms have been triggered and the family pet has been locked up with a deceased body for who know how long or any other scenario.

6) why didn't they ask for the mans id. Not one time did they ask for it. They didn't ask if had someone tied up. They didn't even ask his name. I'm sure you got a quick answer for that one too know it all.

Nope i already said they should of asked

7) why didn the cop just exit the house and cover all the exits until help could arive? Hmmm know it all? Why didn't they use some other means know it all? They could have done a thousand different things know it all. They heard the dog barking while they were still on the outside and they had to know it was there.

Well, you seem to already at this point have it all figured out.....know it all

so you see i looked at this from all angles and of course i tried to take the cops point of view into account and all i am left with is that this is an idiot super cop wannabe.


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The simple matter of fact is an idiot, trigger happy cop pulled his service weapon and drew down on a harmless dog in cold blood just because the dog was doing what its SUPPOSE to do! This is becoming ALL TOO common these days!

There was simply NO excuse for this and he should be held accountable for his actions!

Im not a cop basher. I respect "most" LEO's and realize they have a tough job for little pay. With that said, I have no respect for idiots that pull their weapon, fire and ask questions later no matter if they are wearing a badge or not.

Again, there is NO valid excuse for this type of behavior!
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There is a media site called ADAM VS THE MAN he was doing a special on how cops in record numbers are shooting homeowners dogs, i would send him this story let him spread it like wild fire ,and sue the PD and the officer
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I wonder if more burden was placed on officers or if penalties for wrongfully shooting pets was harsher, if this would go away. The last conversation I witnessed between LEOs talking about a dog shooting was full of laughter and jokes with little to no concern about dog's owner.

Meter readers, fedex, UPS, mailmen, vacuum cleaner salesmen, etc knock on many, many more doors a month without having to kill pets. IMO, its too easy for an LEO to kill a pet with little or no justification.
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I wonder if more burden was placed on officers or if penalties for wrongfully shooting pets was harsher, if this would go away. The last conversation I witnessed between LEOs talking about a dog shooting was full of laughter and jokes with little to no concern about dog's owner.

Meter readers, fedex, UPS, mailmen, vacuum cleaner salesmen, etc knock on many, many more doors a month without having to kill pets. IMO, its too easy for an LEO to kill a pet with little or no justification.
Exactly!! Not only that, but police are equipped with more less than lethal options than the average meter reader. Pepper spray an animal with a sensitive nose and they will back up. There is a reason park rangers say bear spray is more effective than a gun in most situations.
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A few years ago we helped my grandfather board up a house on his property in Mableton (Cobb county) that he was trying to sell. A few months later the real-estate agent calls and says someone has “un-boarded” the house and was living in it! We called the police department to report the squatters and they met us at the property to deal with the situation. As we approached the house the police officers tried to announce their presence but there was extremely loud music coming from the house (they ran a huge drop cord from the rental house next door for power). As soon as the police officers got through the front door with guns drawn, a huge dog charged at them and they shot it. The dog yelped and ran off into the woods. The dog later came back as the dog owner called for it, it was shot in the jaw area but looked like it would survive.

I felt terrible for the dog because it didn’t know any better but I also could not blame the officers for what they were forced to do in this situation. They had to make a split second decision as they had no warning.

I know this is a very different situation than yours but it just reminded me of what we went through.
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A few years ago we helped my grandfather board up a house on his property in Mableton (Cobb county) that he was trying to sell. A few months later the real-estate agent calls and says someone has “un-boarded” the house and was living in it! We called the police department to report the squatters and they met us at the property to deal with the situation. As we approached the house the police officers tried to announce their presence but there was extremely loud music coming from the house (they ran a huge drop cord from the rental house next door for power). As soon as the police officers got through the front door with guns drawn, a huge dog charged at them and they shot it. The dog yelped and ran off into the woods. The dog later came back as the dog owner called for it, it was shot in the jaw area but looked like it would survive.

I felt terrible for the dog because it didn’t know any better but I also could not blame the officers for what they were forced to do in this situation. They had to make a split second decision as they had no warning.

I know this is a very different situation than yours but it just reminded me of what we went through.
I understand what you are saying and I'm not trying to sit here and say that all cops are bad, but this is a trend. No, not all situations are the same and I can assure you that my buddy Rob would have felt quite differently had his dog actually attacked this officer, but that isn't what happened. He was in his own home barking. Thats it.

He told me himself he would understand if the mans safety was in danger, but that wasn't this case at all.

This has to be seen through to the end so that maybe, just maybe this won't happen to another person.

I mean, how would anyone feel if it were their dog.
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I just wanted to take a minute to say thank yawl for all the support shown. Some of the police that came out tried to make me feel like a complete idiot for what had happened. It wasn't my fault and it wasn't Luke's fault. Believe I've done nothing but try to find a way to blame myself and beat myself up and I'm done with it. The story will air on 11Alive and channel 2 tonight at 6. Marietta Daily Journal has also came out to do an interview. The cops were overheard talking at a local diner after the incident and it seems that they were a little "worried" about the actions they had taken. He heard the shooter say that he didn't have a good reason for shooting the dog. My friend introduced himself and said they grilled him about Luke. They were asking if he was aggressive or ever bitten anyone. Of course they were told how gentle and loved he was by every body that met him. To many details about the hear-say that will have to come later. Then I got the News from a reporter that they had put in the report that Luke had previously bitten some one else on the property. I had steam coming out of my ears. Then the other reporter came back by with the report in his hands and it said my sister (different name) made the statement. She told both of them on camera that it was a lie and they twisted her words. She told them that she had been bitten by a dog 3 weeks ago and didnt feel the need to shoot it so why did they shoot Luke. I've been told by another friend that the "shooter" already has another complaint on him under investigation. This friend has lawyer connections and they obtained the report. I must now go file a complaint myself against the same person. Hopefully in the end justice will be done for Luke.
Sorry for the long post just wanted to say what had to be said.
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I understand what you are saying and I'm not trying to sit here and say that all cops are bad, but this is a trend. No, not all situations are the same and I can assure you that my buddy Rob would have felt quite differently had his dog actually attacked this officer, but that isn't what happened. He was in his own home barking. Thats it.

He told me himself he would understand if the mans safety was in danger, but that wasn't this case at all.

This has to be seen through to the end so that maybe, just maybe this won't happen to another person.

I mean, how would anyone feel if it were their dog.
I agree with you 100% and do not think Rob and Luke were in the wrong at all in this situation. This should be investigate further.
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I just wanted to take a minute to say thank yawl for all the support shown. Some of the police that came out tried to make me feel like a complete idiot for what had happened. It wasn't my fault and it wasn't Luke's fault. Believe I've done nothing but try to find a way to blame myself and beat myself up and I'm done with it. The story will air on 11Alive and channel 2 tonight at 6. Marietta Daily Journal has also came out to do an interview. The cops were overheard talking at a local diner after the incident and it seems that they were a little "worried" about the actions they had taken. He heard the shooter say that he didn't have a good reason for shooting the dog. My friend introduced himself and said they grilled him about Luke. They were asking if he was aggressive or ever bitten anyone. Of course they were told how gentle and loved he was by every body that met him. To many details about the hear-say that will have to come later. Then I got the News from a reporter that they had put in the report that Luke had previously bitten some one else on the property. I had steam coming out of my ears. Then the other reporter came back by with the report in his hands and it said my sister (different name) made the statement. She told both of them on camera that it was a lie and they twisted her words. She told them that she had been bitten by a dog 3 weeks ago and didnt feel the need to shoot it so why did they shoot Luke. I've been told by another friend that the "shooter" already has another complaint on him under investigation. This friend has lawyer connections and they obtained the report. I must now go file a complaint myself against the same person. Hopefully in the end justice will be done for Luke.
Sorry for the long post just wanted to say what had to be said.
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Yes me and deerhunter1 were having it out but neither of us have all the facts as I am sure they all have not been presented. Please don't beat yourself up over this it is not your fault that this happened. I wish they all would go back to pepper spray training and use it more.
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I'm glad my friend didn't do as you say, because these cops were in stealth mode with weapons drawn from the getgo. He probably would have been shot and I would have lost him too.

Everybody is missing the point. This isn't about bravado or macho or manlyness. This is about public servants who we pay with our tax dollars to conduct themselves in our best interest and when they don't there is no retribution. There is no punishment and there is no justice and its above all else, WRONG.

I no longer have any faith whatsoever in our public servants because its a crap shoot or freeforall as to what you are gonna get. There are no standards apparently.

How can a police department have as their protocol shooting dogs on alarm calls when 99.9% of all of them turn out to be tripped by the owner. How? Why in this society do we allow this crap to go on? This is protocol?????????????? Thats amazing in and of itself not to mention the low caliber employees our police deparments deem to be "top notch".

We are all living in bizzaro world where everthing is backwards.
I feel for your friend and his family

The problem is when this happens we get on sites like this and talk about it and complain that it is being allowed to happen. The thing that needs to happen is it needs to have attention drawn to it in the media and a good lawyer needs to be hired to make an example out of the cops and the department for allowing it to happen.

Then maybe some rules will get changed as to how that is handled next time. talking on this site only relieves your tensions it doesn't get anything changed as to how it gets handled next time.

Again I am sorry for y'alls lose.
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I feel for your friend and his family

The problem is when this happens we get on sites like this and talk about it and complain that it is being allowed to happen. The thing that needs to happen is it needs to have attention drawn to it in the media and a good lawyer needs to be hired to make an example out of the cops and the department for allowing it to happen.

Then maybe some rules will get changed as to how that is handled next time. talking on this site only relieves your tensions it doesn't get anything changed as to how it gets handled next time.

Again I am sorry for y'alls lose.
Thanks friend. We'll see what happens. It's up in the air right now.
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Yes me and deerhunter1 were having it out but neither of us have all the facts as I am sure they all have not been presented.
Uh no. drhunter1 has all the facts. Deerfu is one of his best friends.
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I would point my finger in the direction of the alarm company for not knowing you were the owner of the home cause you told them you were. They dispatched the cops. When dispatched they have no clue what they are approaching on any kind of call. They have no clue if someone is in the home or building when they get there. They did what they were supposed to do, they found an open door, no knowledge of any dogs,(which don't matter), the dog came at them, they are investigating an alarm, they have no idea if someone is tied up or dead or not even there. They should of asked you for ID once they found you there but you are lucky you weren't cuffed and then questioned because you were where an alarm was going off at.

You cop bashers really need to stop and think about it from their point of view. I am sorry for the dog and I can understand the hurting from the loss, but please try to look at it from all angles before threatening anything.
PLEASE tell me your not serious? So you think the alarm company should believe whoever answers the phone on the other end even if they can't produce the ID number..... hey Joe just tell them you own the house so they don't call the cops on us. Why even have the alarm if that's the case?

There are many good cops but there are some trigger happy ones as well that want to be heroes. They should have handled that situation in a better manner.

If the dog tried to attack them then by all means put it down but just barking is a whole nother story. I hope the trigger happy cop loses his job or at least gets put on unpaid leave and trained better for next time and is made to pay for the dog and suffering.
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YEa, you make a good point. Pepper spray would be more appropriate. Hadn't thought about that. The dog is just doing what it was born to do.

Do they all carry pepper spray?
This is what I am wondering....

Why in the world don't they just spray the dog?
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I got the feling that if a cop walks in my house and shoots my wifes dog for attacking him that the least of that officers worries is going to be his job.
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No kidding. I wouldn't care what kind of outfit a person had on if he was inside my home shooting my family members or pets. I'm shooting back, period.
Thank You! Same with kicking in my door at some odd hour of the night. Man,I don't know that all of my family & friends together could make my bail after something like this...It would definitely be a sad day for all involved + their families... Sleepr71
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The simple matter of fact is an idiot, trigger happy cop pulled his service weapon and drew down on a harmless dog in cold blood just because the dog was doing what its SUPPOSE to do! This is becoming ALL TOO common these days!

There was simply NO excuse for this and he should be held accountable for his actions!

Im not a cop basher. I respect "most" LEO's and realize they have a tough job for little pay. With that said, I have no respect for idiots that pull their weapon, fire and ask questions later no matter if they are wearing a badge or not.

Again, there is NO valid excuse for this type of behavior!

Absolutely right!

And I think that anyone who comes through a door blasting at anything which moves (like a Lab....) should be disqualified because of mental instability. It is only a matter of time before that guy shoots an unarmed person rather than a harmless Lab.
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This is what I am wondering....

Why in the world don't they just spray the dog?
Because they were looking for some hero status. One of Robs neighbors went to work after the shooting at a local restaurant and low and behold who was there but those same cops.

The neighbor overheard the cops plotting and scheming as to how they were going to get away with it. The detective asked the shooter why he shot the dog in the first place and his resonse was (and I'm paraphrasing) " I don't know, I already had my gun drawn I guess"

That right there says volumes.

This also speaks volumes. When the employee of the restaurant told them that he was a neighbor they immediately stared grillimg him about Luke and tried everything under the sun to try and get this guy to say something negative about Luke, but all he would say was that Luke was the sweetest most loving dog in the world and wouldn't hurt a fly. They clammed up after they couldn't get what they wanted out of him.

This is corrupt and in so much as I can gather, this is a corrupt police department. People of Cobb County should be aware of who works for them.
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Because they were looking for some hero status. One of Robs neighbors went to work after the shooting at a local restaurant and low and behold who was there but those same cops.

The neighbor overheard the cops plotting and scheming as to how they were going to get away with it. The detective asked the shooter why he shot the dog in the first place and his resonse was (and I'm paraphrasing) " I don't know, I already had my gun drawn I guess"

That right there says volumes.

This also speaks volumes. When the employee of the restaurant told them that he was a neighbor they immediately stared grillimg him about Luke and tried everything under the sun to try and get this guy to say something negative about Luke, but all he would say was that Luke was the sweetest most loving dog in the world and wouldn't hurt a fly. They clammed up after they couldn't get what they wanted out of him.

This is corrupt and in so much as I can gather, this is a corrupt police department. People of Cobb County should be aware of who works for them.
The D.A. and internal affairs need to hear about this!
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Not sure I'm wording this correctly,but are there not "protocols" as to what level a "threat" has to reach to dictate what level of force or "lethality" that the police use? Or can they whip their pistol out & just kill whatever/whoever they feel fit? I mean,what if they pull up in the yard & my dog starts barking at them...? All jokes aside..I feel sorry for the dogs owner+ veteran cops who got into it(law enforcement)for more than just a paycheck+the benefits,because they get lumped in with these criminal "thugs" who hide behind a badge
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I asked this very question to the detective that handled the case during our "private" interview. He told me (and recorded it) that ccpd has no protocol concerning dogs and I said "that has got to change, if the cops don't have the training then they need it". Then ccpd publicly says the were following protocol
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First off I want to say to the person who lost their dog on behalf of the LEO's that still believe we exist to protect and SERVE that I am deeply sorry for your loss. As a dog lover as well I know how attached one can become to them and how they literally become part of your family and it hurts when we loose one especially like this.

In my 10+ years as a LEO I have never shot a dog and the only time I have been around when a dog was shot it was a pit bull and it was an immediate threat to the deputy. It was on a felony warrant and the subject was in the house so he opened the door and sicked the pit on the deputy there was NO doubt the dog was going to attack so he was put down. I have personally been to several houses to serve warrants ect..where a dog was extremely aggressive and it was dealt with using a heavy dose of pepper spray which ended the encounter quickly with out any shots fired.
I hate to second guess a fellow officer based on limited knowledge but this cop doesn't sound like he used good judgement nor does he sound like someone I would want backing me up. If you are responding to a potential burglary/ home invasion type event you want the element of surprise on your side which is why we turn our sirens off before we get there. I just don't see the justification in shooting a barking dog(they do that) to maintain that element of surprise wouldn't firing off two or three shots kind of give you away? In my experience pepper spray works better than shooting them or a taser because most dogs when pepper sprayed don't continue to bark they usually haul butt and rub their faces in the dirt were as one that has been tased usually barks far worse once the 5 second shock is over.
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