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Old 02-08-2014, 08:51 PM
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Who has killed deer with a 45-70? I am thinking of making a trade and getting a 45-70 single shot handi rifle. Who has shot one of these ? The owner of the gun says it kicks so bad he wouldnt put a scope on it ?
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:55 PM
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Did not help the 7 th Cavalry at the Little big horn. The 45-70 has been around for a long time and yes it will kill a deer.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:57 PM
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My dad had the same gun you are looking at and that thing did kick like a mule!!!
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:27 PM
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I just watched some videos on youtube on this gun and the recoil didnt look to awful from what i could tell
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I know a guy has one. I didnt soot it. But he said no big deal. But he is used to 30-06's 300's and 150 grain 50 cal muzzle loaders. Oh yeah, first time he shot it, he was 16. I say get it and scope it.
Oh yeah, he said it has crazy bullet energy and knock down.
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I shoot a 270 and love it and im one that says you dont need a mag or big gun to kill a deer but i thought it would be something to have fun with . Id hate to get something that is worse then a 12 ga on recoil
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Get a Limbsaver recoil pad, it helps a lot.
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I have one in a lever gun, scoped, no big deal at all, shoots great, but...don't know about that single shot...good luck
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What about mounts and scope , What scope and mounts would you guys put on a gun with that heavy of recoil ? And i dont know anything about the handi rifles , He says this gun has the 32 inch barrel if im not mistaking , not the short barrel
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if you are that worried about recoil, get a limbsaver for it. Should cut the recoil down for you.
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The recoil isn't that bad in my opinion. Don't know about a scope, I don't have one on mine.
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45 70 is a back breaker. The deer's back
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A 3 1/2in turkey load has way more recoil then a 45-70
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I had one in a lever action. Kilt plenty of deer with it. Kick is no worse than a 3006.
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I have one that is the lever action Marlin models. It kicks like a mule, but will flat knock something off its feet. I killed a 400lb hog in one shot that never moved from its tracks. I also have a 30-06. It kicks worse than it and I have a limb saver recoil pad on it.
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This is the bullet out of the hog I shot with mine.
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There is no way a 45-70 can kick more than a 3 1/2" 12 gauge OO buck. I mean I wouldn't want to shoot it all day, but 4 or 5 times to sight it in won't be that bad. Just drink a few brewskis afterwards.
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That 32" is likely the Buffalo Classic with the Williams /Lyman target sights, I don't know if it's tapped for scope mount capability. Those sights, that barrel and caliber opens up another realm of capabilities.
I've got the 22" rifle with a Burris Fullfield II 3x9x40 and Ballistic Plex reticle. It's held up to about 35ft.lbs of recoil when I was trying to establish a good load for the gun using a 300gr JHP being pushed with 60gr of IMR3031 at about 2100fps. I've since found a better load with 56gr of the same powder at 1740fps, my brother in law even likes it in his Marlin which now has the same scope too.
Dang, if I had that thing I'd just have to try some 500gr stuff out of it!
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:16 AM
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Like others have said. Get a limbsaver for it. The honrady 325gr leverevolutions are good and recoil isn't too bad with that setup. I've got a 1-4x shotgun scope on mine that works very well.

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The 45/70 is a fine cartridge, that's why it's been around so long. I have a Marlin 1895 that has killed many deer and a few hogs. It has an old Leupold 2x7. The recoil is very mild with 405 gr factory loads and can be a little harsh with heavy bullets and hot loads. I'm not sensitive to recoil so I don't care how hard a rifle kicks. When shooting a deer or hog in never notice recoil.
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I have a true Marlin 1895 Guide gun in 45-70 and have taken several deer with it. I have only the factory recoil pad on it and it's recoil is no worse than my Model 70 Featherweight 30.06, no where near as bad as a 12 gauge with 3-1/2magnum loads. As far as messing up meat, not bad at all and the few deer I have shot with it dropped in their tracks.
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I like the handi rifle. I bought one for my son. The 45-70 may kick more with the handi rifle because the handi rifle is shorter and weighs less. That 45-70 is great for deer, hogs and bears.
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The trade didnt happen but got to shoot the gun ! It was a sweet shooter with recoil about like 12 ga bird shot ! I might try to get one in the future
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Do you know what load you shot in it? If I recall correctly, there are 45-70 loads for older guns that are milder recoil than45-70 loads for newer guns. My Speer manual #14 has 2 sections of load data, one for lever actions and one for strong actions.

Once I shot a friends 375 H&H Mag when I was trying to decide if I wanted a 375 Mag or 338 Mag and decided the 338 Mag is as high a recoil as I wanted to have to endure. A few years later I shot a friends 45-70 and thought it was on par with the 375 H&H Mag. Recoil tolerance varies greatly between individuals with the 338 Mag being my personal limit, but if the heavier recoil of the 45-70 suits you, go for it.
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