I have read on the " Do you have to be good thread" , people throwing out their op's on what they think, well, it's not what you or I think. It's what does the LORD say !!! It was answered in the first posts after the thread started. Next,it turned into a loss of salvation thread. Now I know where I'm going when I die and you can too!!! Heres the simple answer, do you trust GOD and take his word for it, or not ? I'm not relying on my op, I'm relying on Gods word. Are you calling God a liar, you are if you say he does'nt mean what he says, KJV 1611 AV, Num. 23:19 God is not a man,that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Now, just stop and think about this a while, Romans and Gal. covers salvation[doctrine] I would also reccommend studying up on the doctrines of Sanctification,Justification, Regeneration, Adoption, and Imputation as well as all the other "tions". This is not Modern Doctrine, it can be traced all the way back to Antioch !! Learn to rightly divide the word of God 2 Tim. 2:15 Don't run to Matt. 5,6,7,24, or 25, Hebrews 6 or 10, Acts 2 or James 2 and last but not least Gal. or Rev. to refute, rightly divide and take God at his word. I know the truth is never popular John 17:17