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I didn't mean to make it sound as though anything is referenced by my own consciousness.
"If it exists" is only determined by consciousness.
I like what this guy wrote a few slots back:
This guy??? I feel so minimalized. ��
That guy sounds dang near genius.Ha!
It was a great comment. And you are a great commenter.
But seriously, are we in the same chapter if not close to some sort of being on the same page at least in regards to this?
WE assign the significance of a thing appearing a certain way, especially if we have had some experience with it...even to the point, like you say of "naming it".
Is it even possible to consider that a familiarity in "the naming", makes it so we don't even really recognize it anymore for what is, at fundamental level, a tangle. Useful, yes, a form repeatable and learnable? Yes.
I am learning this about things I think I know, especially people, like my wife. She contains worlds, but how often she just appears to me, well, as wife. To see what's there, not some conveniently labeled thing made of a utility that in its convenience, is also blinding.
I think that Ambush also "touched this" when saying that the words we apply to concepts almost give us the impression that somehow their reality is summed in them...but upon closer inspection, the terms almost become useless, for there's far more to it than we realize in the glossing.
And "some other guy" wisely wrote something like "I think there's a lot more contained in the held concept of omniscience and omnipotence beyond just knowing what's going to happen next"...or something like that.
I didn't mean to make it sound as though anything is referenced by my own consciousness.
That's not much for clarification, or maybe I'm just not picking up what you're putting down. If it's consciousness in general then it would still apply to you, that statement anyway.
My stand point is that the knot exists whether we as individuals are conscious of it or not. Not to mix metaphors, but it's like the history of the universe, no matter which story you believe, in that it existed before conscious humans were aware of it. Adam and Eve were subsequent to Creation of the Earth, and homo erectus came long after the Big Bang and the earth cooled, followed by the autotrophs drooling, we created tools and built the pyramids, math, science, history... I think my point is made.
Hmmm...
"Like best" or "based on evidence"?
1. unknotted rope in back of truck
2. wind whipping around in back of moving truck
3. rope now in a knot
I like the explanation that Sandra Bullock was hiding in the back of my truck and tied the rope in knots the best but..... no evidence of Sandra, just the unknotted rope, wind and then a knotted rope.
As opposed to... even if you believe in God, believe he has the ability to invisibly tie the rope in a knot.. whats the evidence that he actually did it?
Odds are far greater it was Sandra Bullock. At least she is known to exist.