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Old 05-18-2018, 11:03 AM
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Again, I proposed a complete armed citizenry as the 2nd amendment allows vs what many on here want to restrict contrary to the 2nd amendment.

I am truly sorry you folks can't see the crux of what I am saying and choose instead to relegate our future to cowering behind the fear created and propagated by man and restrictive legislation that creates these scenario's.

Now you are interpreting my suggestions as animosity towards LE?

More government has never solved anything.

I'm done here, you are constrained by your own lack of understanding of what could be, if government would just get out of the way.
I am not a fan of government, or government intrusion in our lives, but the simple fact is some rules or laws are necessary for a civilized society ,,,

Now the opposite of that is Anarchy ,,, which is absolutely fine with me ! in an Anarchy situation only the strongest and most aggressive will survive ,,, I would have no problem with that,, as I will be one of the ones surviving,,,

But realistically you have to have some rules and regulations, as I've said before, I am not against the second amendment, but if every crazy person out there starts carrying guns, then we're gonna have to shoot some people who were simply exercising their 2nd amendment rights !

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, my ex-sister in law bought a gun and started carrying it in her purse, she was a former teacher who went into private practice for herself, with her demeanor and mindset, she is more likely to shoot herself than to actually use the firearm to defend herself, I was told she finally realized that and gave the revolver to her son. Some people never realize they aren't equipped to handle deadly weapons.
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Old 05-18-2018, 12:54 PM
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I am also totally against big Government, I think the locals can do a great job all on there own they have proved it over and over again and I see it all the time doing Search & Rescue during floods, things always go great as long as the feds let us do our jobs just let them handle supply and logistics and lets us handle the rest on a global scale I'm totally fine with the feds handling that and if you don;t already know we have had another school shooting in Texas, I sure wish some of these armed citizens would have been around for that one to at least slow the shooter down and keep him out of the school until Swat got there to finish the job if the citizens had not all ready done so which would have been totally fine with me, if this keeps up the only people that are going to have guns are the very ones we are trying to stop because they don't care what the law is anyway

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Old 05-18-2018, 01:00 PM
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the 2nd amendment is all about protecting others, its also about protecting yourself. Is the 2nd absolute or not?
How absolute is absolute?
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Old 05-18-2018, 01:40 PM
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even in the Wild West there were Sheriffs that wouldn't let you carry side arms in town...it is nothing new really...stay outta town
The original gun free zone.Wonder how many citizens were killed or injured before the sheriff could kill all the bad guys?
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Old 05-18-2018, 02:14 PM
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I totally understand that and I wish they would let us be proactive instead of reactive, they defiantly need to do something different because what is being done right now is not working, when the parkland shooting took place a Swat Team from a neighboring jurisdiction was training in full gear a mile away and the went there to help they were turned away and then suspended with out pay because they were out of their jurisdiction and were not asked to help so can you imagine what they would have done to a citizen if they would have tried to help the system it totally broken and your right common sense seems to be a myth now a days, we need to Mirror what Israel is doing about being proactive there IDF troops carry their rifles 24-7
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9 school shootings so far this year
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If you're worried about your 10 year old being around guns, guess you better step up to the parenting plate and teach him how to properly handle them.

Also, what 10 year old has a few hundred dollars lying around that they can just shove in vending machine at will?

I guarantee you more harm is coming to kids from screen devices through porn/etc that they are easily exposed to than guns ever would cause. And you can buy an ipad in a vending machine.
Not worried about "my" 10 year old. I am worried about those that don't have dads to teach them. Those being raised by gang members. Those that may kill several others before finally sub-coming to violence themselves. You can get a handgun cheaper than a ipad. That kid isn't gonna kill another one with an ipad either.

In a civilized society, we have to have rules. If not, we would not be civilized.

Unfortunately there are a lot of kids/folks out there that didn't have the benefit of good parents to teach them right from wrong. That is where a civilized society has to step in and protect ourselves.

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