Spotlite
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See below for Walts point.
I am fairly confident that you're well versed in understanding the claims of Christianity, but if it took the inspiration of God to write them, it takes it to understand them.
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I am fairly confident that you're well versed in understanding the claims of Christianity, but if it took the inspiration of God to write them, it takes it to understand them.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
So what about the contents of the bible?
If it is the word of god, why do you keep trying to pass off to us that you (and all christians) understand it?
And, if you can understand it...it cannot be the word of god.
Which is it ?
Spotlite is rambling on about that he can understand it because of spiritual discernment, yet everyone that claims to have spiritual discernment seems to be getting different messages because very few agree on anything.
You are telling me that the word of god cannot be fully understood, yet you have an excuse to explain what god wants, what god says, how the bible should be interpreted etc etc.
The forums above should be filled with 100% agreement if there is such a thing as spiritual discernment, yet god is incapable of getting 5 or 6 of you in here the same messages.
I am beginning(since day one) to think that a couple of you are full of carp.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Oh! So like someone who attends a concert and then decides to take up playing the guitar.
They were inspired...but Eddie VanHalen is not really channelling himself through them....
God didnt really channel his thoughts through the authors, they just made up specific conversations between people and wrote down what they felt god MIGHT say and wrote down what god MAY have done......
This good to know
red neck richie
Senior Member
I have no excuse brother. All I know about what God wants is you. I am just passing along my experience.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
YOU have got it all correct though, am I accurate?
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Boy O boy, you get very vague when pressed to back up your claims or explain your claims, but then you come right back out with another absolute doozie.
You know what god wants, yet fleshy Rich told ne he is unable to understand god.
I do not know how you can keep up with the whoppers you tell.
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
For my part in this since you seem to throw me in whenever you can....don't ask me questions and then post about rambling. See below about what Spotlite said. You seem to think that everyone that claims to be Christian is in fact Christian and everyone that claims it is inspired by God.......well that would be nice. If you were as well versed in scripture as you claim, you would know it isn't the case. So your cop-out with dealing with reality is that all Christians are wrong??
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Well I Am well versed in scripture. I just also happen to think it is fiction so there is no way that I would take it seriously.
I am also told that scripture is inspired so I cannot believe that a god is involved innit.
I am also told that fleshy humans cannot understand god so you telling me that you can must be a lie.
I am also told that not everyone who claims to be a christian is a christian and although there is spiritual discernment not everyone who claims to be a christian can really discern it.
I get the feeling that people who claim to be more christian than other christians seems to talk the most smack about others pretending to be christians, YET....I am also getting some spiritual concernment and it is telling me that spotlite thinks he is a REAL christian moreso than most and his rules really do not apply to himself.
atlashunter
Senior Member
How so? Are they not written in a language comprehensible to humans without divine intervention? The KJV was written in english last I checked.
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
You'd be wrong. I never claimed that.
Have a nice day bullet. You have proven more than once that you're incapable of carrying on an adult conversation.
atlashunter
Senior Member
With all due respect spotlite, and I appreciate the willingness you've shown to respond to these questions, I don't see any evidence of special discernment in the answer above (spiritual or otherwise).
"If Christianity is immoral for going through the blood of Jesus, we will just have to continue being immoral. We didn't set or choose that path. ... A better word than "sacrifice" might have should been considered, but I didn't write it. "
^This looks more like a shrugging of the shoulders than discernment.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Yeah, it would make sense to make it understandable to people without divine intervention in order to help them better follow along and have the messages within spread.
red neck richie
Senior Member
I love U2 brother.
atlashunter
Senior Member
Which god inspired the words found in Deuteronomy 32 8:9? Was it Elyon? Or Yahweh?
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
You'd be wrong. I never claimed that.
Have a nice day bullet. You have proven more than once that you're incapable of carrying on an adult conversation.
I am listening to you talk in circles, make claims that you are unable to back up, talk about spirits and invisible friends.
I have to sit at the little tables and speak in high pitched voices in order to fit in with the crowd.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
You cannot discern me.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Again I have to ask you, which is it?
Are you a christian that is able to discern spiritual contact? Are you a christian that is able to understand the bible as it is intended to be understood? Are you a christian that claims to be a christian and actually fulfills the necessary actions to be a christian?
Or aren't you?
I got the impression that you were separating yourself from christians who claim to be christians but really are not.
Are you not the top tier christian but more christian than a little bit but way more christian than fake christians?
Break it down for me.
I thought you were a model christian from your posts, but you said I was wrong.
Explain please.
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
1 Corinthians 2: 13-14
atlashunter
Senior Member
Talk about self aggrandizement.
I guess you always have that out when confronted with difficult questions you dare not answer. "I believe so I understand better than those who do not." Can you really convince yourself that is true? Or do you only wish it to be true and deep down know better?
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
To break it down, I do separate myself from fake Christians. Who wouldn't? Fake Christians tell on their selves, you don't have to look for them. As I said before, they quote scripture on Sunday and steal your horse on Monday. As far as top tier, I never suggested that. I readily admit that I could be wrong about something, and I pray daily for guidance.
I am not sure how you could think I am a model Christian and make the comment below.
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