Artfuldodger
Senior Member
John says the Word was with God.
God says let us make man in our image.
Colossians 1:16
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
What I wonder about is the Incarnation. The distinction between Creator and Creation.
Is Jesus being the Creator a major Trinity belief or do just some Trinitarians see it this way?
Does the Incarnation have anything to do with creating?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If the Word is God the Son and the Word was with God as in God the Father, then the Word was God as in God the Son.
It never says God is all three at the same time. So there could be more of a Oneness or Unity thing going on instead of a Trinity thing going on.
Trinitarians to use John 1:1 to prove that the Son is eternal. I think most believe Jesus was the Creator.
“the Word” was from the beginning and became flesh.
In Word; Revelation 13:8 the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Shows how the Word works.
Before man’s first sin, God already had a solution.
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Maybe the Trinity/Word became one at the Incarnation.
The Word became flesh.
God says let us make man in our image.
Colossians 1:16
For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
What I wonder about is the Incarnation. The distinction between Creator and Creation.
Is Jesus being the Creator a major Trinity belief or do just some Trinitarians see it this way?
Does the Incarnation have anything to do with creating?
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If the Word is God the Son and the Word was with God as in God the Father, then the Word was God as in God the Son.
It never says God is all three at the same time. So there could be more of a Oneness or Unity thing going on instead of a Trinity thing going on.
Trinitarians to use John 1:1 to prove that the Son is eternal. I think most believe Jesus was the Creator.
“the Word” was from the beginning and became flesh.
In Word; Revelation 13:8 the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Shows how the Word works.
Before man’s first sin, God already had a solution.
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Maybe the Trinity/Word became one at the Incarnation.
The Word became flesh.