rnelson5
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That would be ok. You can't take it with you so you might as well.
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That would be ok. You can't take it with you so you might as well.
mizzippi jb
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You said it Chase. I've never out a pencil to it, and I would be afraid to be honest enough with myself to do it. But I guarantee you that between what I've spent on hunting (all kinds of hunting) as well as what wages I've given up due to hunting, it would probably be in 6 digit figures
, and I'm not one of those guys who can get into a 10,000$ club every year. But those guys and other folks like corporate places that lease land for clients, are snatching up resources as fast as they can at a more than premium price. We the little folks are getting pushed out, and there's not a lot we can do about it. And that goes for all types of hunting....here, Arkansas, just about anywhere where there's game to hunt.
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Gone are the days like when I grew up. We went where we wanted hunted where wanted. If you killed ducks or deer you shared some with land owner. As long as you picked up after yourself and made sure you closed the gate you were always invited back. You might be ask to help an older farmer out with his hay field during time to bale his hay. Or help him feed the cows or the hogs when he was out of town. You always had several places and I mean good places to hunt.You said it Chase. I've never out a pencil to it, and I would be afraid to be honest enough with myself to do it. But I guarantee you that between what I've spent on hunting (all kinds of hunting) as well as what wages I've given up due to hunting, it would probably be in 6 digit figures
WOODIE13
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It is all about the money. Here, they are working on passing Sunday hunting for the whole state on private land. Only issue for waterfowl, it does not include any public waters which make up most of the state WF hunting. Takes a week off the season, total, epic. Lobbyist are the downfall of the common man, but when the metal meets the meat, ($$$$) they may listen.
king killer delete
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Exactly and who gets the money.
king killer delete
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Thats why i will be spending allot of money at Disney world next week end. St pattys day at Ragland Road.
GLS
Classic Southern Gentleman
Certain aspects of hunting do require a lot of money. Wild quail in Thomasville for one. As far as deer, turkey, and small game, no. We are lucky to live in a state with an abundance of public land. As for ducks, we are affected by habitat destruction, changes in flyway and agricultural shortstopping beyond our control. I don't ever expect Georgia to return to the good old days of duck hunting which weren't that long ago. Gil
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Gil these young folks just dont know how good it was back in our younger days, I killed allot of ducks in the same places you did.
Duckbuster82
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Well in that aspect they would still want to fund this kind of project. How much money is spent on gas, hotels, food, and other commodities? How many jobs are created by the hunting industry? If the money funnels down and the area is so poor than they need the out of state money and would want to keep the timber hunting open.
GLS
Classic Southern Gentleman
Saltwater intrusion caused by the tide gates was a real killer of habitat up the Savannah River. Black Ducks, not mottled, were fairly common around the Savannah River delta. It was no big deal to kill mallards, gadwall, wigeon, and teal on public land. At dawn, one could see thousands of high altitude ducks moving overhead from the refuge to the ocean and reverse flights at dusk. No one I knew in this area would bother to drive to Darien as we had all the ducks we needed within a 20 minute drive to a boat ramp. At one time, the refuge allowed hunting on the north side of 17 excepting the area adjacent to the headquarters. It wasn't Arkansas, but it wasn't bad, either. Gil
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Yes sir. I do remember it. We did not know how good we had it.
alphachief
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Awesome...when can we expect all the snowbirds and out of state fishermen to leave the Sunshine State? I'll be moving back just in time to take advantage of all the open water.
emusmacker
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And how did the hunting shows mess up the hunting of years ago? Or the new hunters.
I always hear the young ones are the future of our sport, but seems to me the young guys are hated on. One day all the old timer duck killers will be gone, and without the new guys so will duck hunting.
things change, life changes, I hear some say how cheap a duck stamp was back when moses lived, well my daddy remembers when gas was 5 cents a gallon. its always been about the money. always will be.
I always hear the young ones are the future of our sport, but seems to me the young guys are hated on. One day all the old timer duck killers will be gone, and without the new guys so will duck hunting.
things change, life changes, I hear some say how cheap a duck stamp was back when moses lived, well my daddy remembers when gas was 5 cents a gallon. its always been about the money. always will be.
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I remember when gas was 25 cents a gallon and an 8 oz coke was 5 cents.
Because we do not need to be welfare hunters. As long as it is a WMA, the state taking care of it is fine, but encouraging more state intrusion into private ownership needs to stop.
Yep, go to a movie, get a coke and popcorn for a quarter.
Lots more ducks in Georgia back then!
What they won't due in Arkansas is up the cost of their licenses to help pay for all this duck territory and instead most want to suckle off of out of state hunter's dollars. That is where you get the guys will greenbacks start rolling in. However, Arkansas has been covered by greenback hunters for as long as I can remember. There are some over century old duck clubs there.
mizzippi jb
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Something is coming for OOS hunters, you can bank on that. Of 2 of the options I've heard, I can live with one but the other won't suit me at all. Either a couple of 3 to 5 day splits for locals only (fine by me), or a couple to 3 splits of 3 to 5 days where OOS hunters are allowed in (not fine by me). But what I wonder is if they're still gonna keep the WMA stamp fee at the current price while limiting OOS hunters to less time in the woods. I can tell you, less people are gonna pay it, and less money per license is gonna hurt the AFGS budgets
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I said that you guys don't vote in Arkansas. But you do vote in another way. Vote with your boots and your pocket book. Many other states have great duck hunting. I was stationed at Ft Riley Kansas back in the early 70s. If you have a boat , waders, decoys and shotgun there is a whole bunch public land where you can hunt. I lived in Manhattan near K State. Some of the best duck and goose hunting I have ever done. It is a bit of a ride but it is worth the trip if you have not done it.
across the river
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They have been talking about doing something for a while, but it hasn't happened. Even if it does happen, I think people will still pay it. I would have thought people would stop going to Meto when they installed the 15 shell and three mallard limit, but people still pour in there in droves. I don't hunt public land out there enough anymore to even worry about it, but it will hurt the OOS guys that stay out there most of the season. It won't change much for the guys that only go out there a time or two a year, other than I guess make it more crowded than it already is. For that reason I think most of those guys would still pay the fee regardless.
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