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as in moderately...alive?
Sure we can agree on that.
But now you have shifted the focus to "one".
One what?
And I'm not being difficult. You can't just skip over the fact that you are talking about a god here.
A human being is capable of thought, will and action.
For that matter, a dog is capable of thought, will and action.
A god, particularly an omni-everything one, would be capable of far different thoughts, will and actions.
Cant just throw them all in a box and call it "One".
Sure at least in action.
For example I would say the vast majority of Christians sit in between lets say Westboro Baptist and the Pope in action.
as in moderately...alive?
Using your own standards will you admit that many other gods exist? Millions of people communicate with them and they can see evidence that those gods acted in ways that affected them. Your standards of evidence show you that many gods exist. Do you agree?That's my point. If evidence is your standard, it's hypocritical to hold God to a higher standard of evidence than you do any other being. If you hear a dog bark, you believe there is a dog there based on hearing. You have probably never heard a hippo bellow, but if you heard a noise you couldn't identify and a person you had always found sensible and credible told you it was a hippo bellowing you would most reasonably believe it. You have never met me, yet you believe me and others exists based on our communication. There are millions upon millions of Christians who will tell you that God exists based on their ability to communicate with him and he with them, because he has acted in their lives and they can see the evidence of it. Why? Because he is a being who is capable of thought, will, and action. That's evidence.
to answer the thread question of "most compelling reason" I would have to say the concept of critical thinking. examples:
1. David (or one of those old testament heroes) killed 5,000 enemy with the jaw-bone of a donkey in one battle.
Let's get a visual on this - during the chaos word gets around that some dude is going Babe Ruth with a donkey jaw-bone. Wow, sure enough, look at that guy! There are hundreds/thousands of our guys dead from getting their heads bashed in - and he's still not running out of steam!
Apparently nobody has a spear, a sword, or even a pointed stick with which to kill him. Well I guess he's got our number - might as well stand in line and get ready for our bashing death - he's a tactical genius!
2. When Adam ate the "fruit of the tree of knowledge" on that very day he was supposed to die. He lived what, 700+ more years? I need to get on that nutrition plan - Atkins or Weight Watchers has nothing on this healthy eating system!
3. Hundreds of thousands (millions?) of different species on this planet and they all fit on one boat.
Okay, some say maybe species have "adapted slightly" over time. Yes, they did, it's called "evolution" and most of the animals "adapted" millions of years before we used tools to build a tiny log raft, let alone a wooden boat bigger than physics even allows.
You've only given evidences of things with which you are at odds with the Bible. You have not said anything about believing in God.
to answer the thread question of "most compelling reason" I would have to say the concept of critical thinking. examples:
Lets not forget the question you asked -That's my point. If evidence is your standard, it's hypocritical to hold God to a higher standard of evidence than you do any other being. If you hear a dog bark, you believe there is a dog there based on hearing. You have probably never heard a hippo bellow, but if you heard a noise you couldn't identify and a person you had always found sensible and credible told you it was a hippo bellowing you would most reasonably believe it. You have never met me, yet you believe me and others exists based on our communication. There are millions upon millions of Christians who will tell you that God exists based on their ability to communicate with him and he with them, because he has acted in their lives and they can see the evidence of it. Why? Because he is a being who is capable of thought, will, and action. That's evidence.
Are you sure this is the argument you want to make? -So ,what evidence is reasonable for us to expect a spirit being to exhibit and does he meet that evidential criteria? I think that's a fair question.
Maybe give that some thought ^If evidence is your standard, it's hypocritical to hold God to a higher standard of evidence than you do any other being.
So are you. So am I. So is a dog. A possum? Yep.Why? Because he is a being who is capable of thought, will, and action. That's evidence.
Of what?That's evidence
There are millions upon millions of Christians who will tell you that God exists based on their ability to communicate with him and he with them, because he has acted in their lives and they can see the evidence of it. Why? Because he is a being who is capable of thought, will, and action. That's evidence.
Without getting into specific examples, wouldn't you agree that some very smart people with excellent critical thinking skills are believers?
as in moderately...alive?
Yes.
There's a word for one who is moderately interested, or only moderately devoted to the truth.
You have not said anything about believing in God.
Originally Posted by SemperFiDawg
There are millions upon millions of Christians who will tell you that God exists based on their ability to communicate with him and he with them, because he has acted in their lives and they can see the evidence of it. Why? Because he is a being who is capable of thought, will, and action. That's evidence
This is a good example of what we see over and over again.That's not evidence. It's just an unverifiable assertion repeated millions and millions of times.
Now obviously the answer to the question as worded would be absolutely.Originally Posted by centerpin fan
Without getting into specific examples, wouldn't you agree that some very smart people with excellent critical thinking skills are believers?
It absolutely will not sink in that he just made a case for alllll those other gods he doesn't believe in.
Without getting into specific examples, wouldn't you agree that some very smart people with excellent critical thinking skills are believers?