If you hunt Illinois you support gun confiscation and a 72hr waiting period

cowhornedspike · May 20, 2018

I hunt there every year in a solidly rural, republican part of the state and I assure you the locals HATE Chicago with a passion. The folks I hunt with don't even vote because they feel they can't out-vote Chicago anyway.

Stay home if you like...that keeps the lease prices from being higher

NCHB I believe you can travel through with your carry weapon now... I probably should check closer and be sure because I always have mine in the vehicle.

From http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf

(e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as
evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of
residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle
unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)

"Concealed firearm" means a loaded or unloaded handgun carried on or about a person completely or mostly concealed from view of the public or on or about a person within a vehicle.
Note: If you stop you can store the loaded handgun in the vehicle in a closed compartment in a locked
vehicle or in a locked case out of view in the vehicle. You can only leave your vehicle with a loaded
handgun to store it in the trunk and retrieve it from the trunk right before you enter your vehicle.You can
store it as specified in the law above.
Note: 20 IL Administrative Rules Section 1231.10 Definitions "Within a Vehicle" means within the
passenger compartment of a passenger or recreational vehicle or within a lockable container secured to a
motorcycle.
Note: See “Chicago and Laser Sights” In the Places Off Limits Section as Laser Sights are Illegal in
Chicago.

Note: If you are traveling and don’t have a permit/license from your state of residence you can transport the firearm unloaded and secured in a case in the trunk or in the back of an SUV. You must be able to legally possess the firearm in your state of residence. You can take it into your Motel/Hotel Room if they don’t ban firearms in their Motel/Hotel.

livetohunt · May 20, 2018

I wish more people would quit hunting in Illinois..It is too crowded with hunters already. Those same folks need to stop eating anything with corn and soybean in it also because there’s a good chance it came from Illinois.. Also, they need to quit using any gasoline with ethanol in it because there is a good chance that corn came from Illinois.

Mr Bya Lungshot · May 20, 2018

Just wondering if these Hunters for the hungry donated deer that are taken and given away from a known cwd state are all tested for cwd before “they” eat it?

Triple C · May 20, 2018

All you boys boycotting IL need to drop your State Farm and Allstate insurance, sell your John Deere or Caterpillar equipment, quit shopping at Walgreens, Sears, or flying in a jet made by Boeing. If you're using an old Motorola flip phone better get rid of that too. And, no more McDonald's fries or Big Mac's. Not to mention Conagra and ADM that supplies all the Krogers, Publix, Piggly Wiggly's, Ingles n such with all manner of stuff. Better give up dining out as well as most restaurants are supplied by U.S. Foods.

And...go ahead and destroy any of your Springfield Armory pistols. They headquartered in IL as well. And check the source on that next bag of corn while you're at it.

philtuts · May 20, 2018

Triple C said:
All you boys boycotting IL need to drop your State Farm and Allstate insurance, sell your John Deere or Caterpillar equipment, quit shopping at Walgreens, Sears, or flying in a jet made by Boeing. If you're using an old Motorola flip phone better get rid of that too. And, no more McDonald's fries or Big Mac's. Not to mention Conagra and ADM that supplies all the Krogers, Publix, Piggly Wiggly's, Ingles n such with all manner of stuff. Better give up dining out as well as most restaurants are supplied by U.S. Foods.

And...go ahead and destroy any of your Springfield Armory pistols. They headquartered in IL as well. And check the source on that next bag of corn while you're at it.

Triple C for the win. I agree with Jim, as well. By choosing not to hunt the state of IL, all you are doing is missing out on killer whitetail opportunities. I do understand making decisions based on principle, but I think this one is a stretch. The hunting is just too good. Haha. And the people in IL outside of Chicagoland are fantastic. Brantley Gilbert does well to describe Midwest folks in his song "Country Must be Country Wide." Give it a listen.

And Pappy, to be honest man, if I had a quarter for every time you whined about not seeing a deer last season in Lumpkin, I'd be able purchase a farm in southern IL in cash. The public land guys up near you are working their tails off and killing nice animals year after year. I'm talking about guys like TreeCutter, KillerKyle, etc. Please find another place to hunt before next season and spare us all.

NCHillbilly · May 20, 2018

Triple C said:
All you boys boycotting IL need to drop your State Farm and Allstate insurance, sell your John Deere or Caterpillar equipment, quit shopping at Walgreens, Sears, or flying in a jet made by Boeing. If you're using an old Motorola flip phone better get rid of that too. And, no more McDonald's fries or Big Mac's. Not to mention Conagra and ADM that supplies all the Krogers, Publix, Piggly Wiggly's, Ingles n such with all manner of stuff. Better give up dining out as well as most restaurants are supplied by U.S. Foods.

And...go ahead and destroy any of your Springfield Armory pistols. They headquartered in IL as well. And check the source on that next bag of corn while you're at it.

Overdramatize much? When it comes down to it, I am just not going to willingly go to a state where they don't recognize the Bill of Rights. Sorry if that chafes you, but there are plenty of other states that aren't set up as socialist countries where people have no rights. Don't you think it's ironic that Springfield Armory builds its pistols in a state where you can't legally carry one of them?

Why do I need to go to Illinois to kill a deer? There are millions of them in NC, SC, GA, and the rest of the southeast where I can pass wind without breaking the law. In half a century, I've enjoyed deer hunting pretty much right here in the south. I went to Illinois one time in my life, and I couldn't wait to get back across the state line into America. My son has lived there for three years (military,) and when he got transferred back to NC earlier this year, he said he though about getting out of his car and kissing the ground when he drove out of Illinois. It's a commie craphole, and no amount of rationalizing will make it not. Big deer horns do not cancel socialism. There are plenty of states around Illinois with big northern deer, without the draconian laws.

Triple C · May 20, 2018

NCHillbilly said:
Overdramatize much? When it comes down to it, I am just not going to willingly go to a state where they don't recognize the Bill of Rights. Sorry if that chafes you, but there are plenty of other states that aren't set up as socialist countries where people have no rights. Don't you think it's ironic that Springfield Armory builds its pistols in a state where you can't legally carry one of them?

Why do I need to go to Illinois to kill a deer? There are millions of them in NC, SC, GA, and the rest of the southeast where I can pass wind without breaking the law. In half a century, I've enjoyed deer hunting pretty much right here in the south. I went to Illinois one time in my life, and I couldn't wait to get back across the state line into America. My son has lived there for three years (military,) and when he got transferred back to NC earlier this year, he said he though about getting out of his car and kissing the ground when he drove out of Illinois. It's a commie craphole, and no amount of rationalizing will make it not. Big deer horns do not cancel socialism. There are plenty of states around Illinois with big northern deer, without the draconian laws.

You prolly right Hillbilly...Prolly the same commie craphole as you often refer to about Asheville. Only thing your post proves is you don't know many folks in IL. The folks that populate 99% of the land mass in IL are as good as they come. They'r just as passionate about their guns n trucks as we are down south and all over the country for that matter.

Bout the same in N California...cow farmers, pickup trucks and NRA supporters. And for that matter...bout the same outside of Asheville - cow farmers, pickup trucks and NRA supporters.

Overdramatize...And that coming from you! Wish I was in your league. Truth hurts. If deer hunting in IL is a stand against the 2nd amendment then planting corn that came from IL might as well be the same according to your logic.

Tio Hey Seuss · May 20, 2018

I've got respect for you NCHB but I don't think that's over dramatization at all. He followed your argument to it's logical conclusion. If you really feel that strong about not supporting a "communist state" then don't talk about it, be about it.
Not that I think anyone is changing any minds here but I wanted to applaud Triple C, Philtuts and Jim for well informed and intellectually sound contributions.

mizzippi jb · May 20, 2018

Triple C said:
All you boys boycotting IL need to drop your State Farm and Allstate insurance, sell your John Deere or Caterpillar equipment, quit shopping at Walgreens, Sears, or flying in a jet made by Boeing. If you're using an old Motorola flip phone better get rid of that too. And, no more McDonald's fries or Big Mac's. Not to mention Conagra and ADM that supplies all the Krogers, Publix, Piggly Wiggly's, Ingles n such with all manner of stuff. Better give up dining out as well as most restaurants are supplied by U.S. Foods.

And...go ahead and destroy any of your Springfield Armory pistols. They headquartered in IL as well. And check the source on that next bag of corn while you're at it.

Well......there's that. :smash:

and Dot foods out if Mt Sterling Il is one of the biggest distributors of food in the US.....if you eat canned vegetables, you are supporting Illinois farmers.....some of the finest folks on earth.

Throwback · May 20, 2018

so extrapolating this out if one does business with a company based in Illinois you support gun confiscation and a 72 hour waiting period.

caterpillar, state farm, Deere, Allstate, McDonalds, Illinois Tool, US Foods, Conagra, etc. are based in Illinois and pay taxes there on their profits.

so I assume ya'll are going to stop buying their products too?

cowhornedspike · May 20, 2018

So the Gov of Illinois makes a stupid proposal and that means all of IL is rotten? Almost as ridiculous as saying if you live in GA you think that Guam will capsize if too many soldiers are stationed there...

Buckstop · May 20, 2018

Have hunted there twice. Never saw a city or met anyone that was liberal or anti-gun. Sure a very small portion of what I spent there may have ended up in the general coffers as sales tax. And a very miniscule amount of that may have actully been been routed to some liberal state govt agenda. But I do know that 90% of what I spent went to support conservative, 2nd amendment supporting republican farmers that are under attach from a large liberal metro area 200 mi and worlds away. Other than their unfortunate and beyond their control state govt situation they are no different than any other midwestern state or GA for that matter.

If someone’s personal conviction is that they prefer not go there or to spend their money there, fine. But to try to paint a personal attitude towards it as a black and white issue for everyone else is pretty one dimensional in thinking. Reality is there is just more to it than that. Don’t think by not hunting some consevative farmers land in S. IL you’ve made any difference in Chicago. Be nice if we could just boycott bowhunting some republicans farm in S. IL and change anythin in Chicago. Chicago, disgusting as it is, is what it is. It has little to do with someone hunting 150 miles down state.

Rulo · May 20, 2018

Jim Boyd said:
Pappy

You call my IQ into question. I, too, do that fairly frequently! What I don’t do, however, is to make blatant statements that judge ALL people that I don’t even know. So, if you hunt in Illinois, you support restrictive gun laws, right? That is what you said and what you believe, correct? So with such strong feelings about the matter, one would have to assume that you make an equally firm stand regarding products from or visits to other states or countries that are as bad or worse than Illinois. Is this correct? If yes, can we assume that you would never eat any fruit or produce from California? They have the most restrictive gun laws in the nation (Illinois is number nine on that list by the way – and I am in no way defending Illinois in their gun laws, they are reprehensible).
Can I also assume that you would never drive a car from Japan or perhaps purchase products that came from China? Would you mind also if I asked where you have vacationed in the last 10 years? I think you see by now what I am driving at. If you only take your stand when it is convenient or when it pleases you, you are very much a hypocrite.

NCHB

I understand your view points and I would have been surprised had you answered in any fashion other than your reply. I am a “carry” person but am not 24/7 as some are. I know danger can come at any moment, my .45 kept me from getting robbed by three individuals with chains about 20 years ago. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was fortunate to have not been either robbed or beaten. When I go to Illinois I don’t even take a pistol with me. That does mean I’m a little bit more careful about where and when I go places. Some people are a little more insistent about carry and you are one of them. I get it.... I mean no insult in this but I would also ask you many of the same questions I asked Pappy....

Rulo,

I would also ask you the same questions I asked Pappy. You go as far as to tell me quit kidding myself and you also tell me find somewhere else to hunt. Can we safely assume that you manage your life, everywhere you go, all the food you eat, and all the products you purchase, etc, with the same fervor that you suggest I use when it comes to choosing a place to hunt? If not, you are asking me to make a stand that you may not personally make.

All of the deer that I take in Illinois are donated to “Hunters for the Hungry”, so I can’t answer your question about taste. One of these days, I will work to harvest a young doe, have her tested for CWD and bring her home for the freezer.

In the final assessment (and this is just my opinion), if anyone ONLY chooses their stand when it is convenient and easy to do - and you have strong opinions about what other folks should and should not do - I fear the level of hypocrisy is high.

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Sorry, your wrong. Your supporting the Democrat Agenda by taking your hunting dollars to a state run by Democrats.

Democrats are historically opposed to hunting, the 2nd Amendment, self preservation, self determination etc, etc. , Some of you all are trying to spin this issue into a broader issue and get off point because your argument is weak.

Your financially supporting a government that that if it had its way , not only would take away all of your guns, but your bows would be toast and hunting would be banned.

You fear hypocrisy? I say hypocrisy!

And as far as the how that buck tasted....Oh Jim I knew the answer to that question as soon as I saw your picture holding that bucks antlers but just had to ask ya! Thus the bait was thrown out there. And the answer....classic!!!!....Hunters for the Hungry.

Hahahahha.....

Best of Luck to you Jim in 2018! Shoot that doe you speak of...preferably south of the Mason Dixon line...see what one taste like! They are pretty tasty!

Buckstop · May 21, 2018

Rulo said:
Sorry, your wrong. Your supporting the Democrat Agenda by taking your hunting dollars to a state run by Democrats.

Democrats are historically opposed to hunting, the 2nd Amendment, self preservation, self determination etc, etc. , Some of you all are trying to spin this issue into a broader issue and get off point because your argument is weak.

Your financially supporting a government that that if it had its way , not only would take away all of your guns, but your bows would be toast and hunting would be banned.

If your just gonna make it as simple as painting each state blue or red, check your history. GA has voted democrat in 31 of 57 presidential elections. 40 of the last 44 GA governors were democrats. Guess they are everywhere. Historically, democrat was THE party of the south.

You quit hunting GA when it voted for Clinton’s first term?

Throwback · May 21, 2018

Rulo said:
Sorry, your wrong. Your supporting the Democrat Agenda by taking your hunting dollars to a state run by Democrats.

Democrats are historically opposed to hunting, the 2nd Amendment, self preservation, self determination etc, etc. , Some of you all are trying to spin this issue into a broader issue and get off point because your argument is weak.

Your financially supporting a government that that if it had its way , not only would take away all of your guns, but your bows would be toast and hunting would be banned.

You fear hypocrisy? I say hypocrisy!

And as far as the how that buck tasted....Oh Jim I knew the answer to that question as soon as I saw your picture holding that bucks antlers but just had to ask ya! Thus the bait was thrown out there. And the answer....classic!!!!....Hunters for the Hungry.

Hahahahha.....

Best of Luck to you Jim in 2018! Shoot that doe you speak of...preferably south of the Mason Dixon line...see what one taste like! They are pretty tasty!

Are you going to boycott all Illinois based companies in your every day life?

Throwback · May 21, 2018

The Chicago mercantile exchange is the largest futures/options exchange in the world. Are you going to boycott any financial company that uses them? Are you going to not buy food from a company that uses them to buy their commodities ?

Jeff C. · May 21, 2018

How soon we forget.....

Go ahead count the counties in Illinois, Georgia, N. Carolina, etc.,

https://brilliantmaps.com/2016-county-election-map/h

Throwback · May 21, 2018

The corn and feed for supplemental feeding as well as the seed for your food plots was most likely sold through the CME or a company based in Illinois

Jim Boyd · May 21, 2018

BYA

I tried to research today whether or not all donated deer in Illinois are tested for CWD. Based on what I read today it looks like they are but I cannot find a definitive answer for the “Sportsmen against Hunger” group that I donate to.

I would suspect that the liability of not testing the animals would far outweigh the food gain that they get from it.

I don’t know very much about CWD, but I will note that you have to gut the animal and clean it properly before they will accept it at the meat processing plant.

I was under the impression that certain organs were part of what they tested for CWD.

I am pretty sure they test the brain also, but I am not 100% sure about that. I believe also that I saw deer that were being donated that had been prepared for shoulder mounts and the head was not even in place.

The ones that I donated had the head intact but the skullcap had been cut open to get the antlers removed from the head.

Jim Boyd · May 21, 2018

Rulo,

You are very quick to tell me I am wrong.

You stopped just short of saying that I am a Democrat and a non-Christian also.

And then, in a not so subtle manner, you basically said you thought I was lying about whether or not the deer got donated.

I am left to wonder how you can determine so much about a person simply by the fact that they hunt in Illinois and are not ashamed to say they do it? You must have (or think you have) remarkable powers of observation that go well beyond the normal human.

Opinions vary, but here is what I think... I think you know a lot less about a lot of things than you think you do and more importantly, you are not afraid to prove it over and over again.

Here is what I notice, you have not answered a single question about states you have visited, products you have purchased, where you vacation, etc. I wonder if you really believe that you are guilt free as it relates to providing revenue for states that you don’t agree with?

You have been asked questions about this by numerous people within this post but I noticed you have elected not to answer.

You then go on to state unequivocally that you believe the “Democrats in Illinois” would go so far as to take away even archery equipment and ban hunting all together. Do you have any idea what that would do to the automobile accident rate in the state? Do you have any idea what that would do to the crop depredation that already exists in the state? Do you have any idea what financial impact and hardship that would create to a state that is already broke? That would fly about as far as a lead balloon in any state that has an adequate deer population.

Yet in your near hysterical paranoia, you make the wildly unfounded statement that they would do away with hunting.

You then close with some sarcastic remark that I should harvest a doe below the Mason-Dixon line. I can assure you that I have been doing that for years now. The farms that I manage in South Carolina are literally over run with deer. Taking a deer is not a problem at all.

Sooooo - Would you be kind enough to tell us what kind of car you drive, where you buy your food, where you vacation, whether or not you have a four wheeler or a UTV and where it was made? Perhaps you have some master plan that allows you to avoid all products that may have come from Illinois or worse yet from California?

You have been laughed at enough. You can quit now and thank me later.

BTW these pics are in SC and the last time I checked, that is well below the Mason Dixon.

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If you hunt Illinois you support gun confiscation and a 72hr waiting period

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