660griz
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Thanks. That really means a lot coming from a Bible believer.
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Thanks. That really means a lot coming from a Bible believer.
smokey30725
Senior Member
I'm asking this out of a genuine desire to understand and not sarcasm. Where you reference that he was a "so-called atheist" and a "not very informed atheist", what all was it that he was lacking in his former non-believing stance on spirituality? Just curious and no disrespect intended.
SemperFiDawg
Political Forum Arbiter of Truth (And Lies Too)
Looking back, as a young man I guess I felt I needed to voice an opinion on every subject. As and older man I find that was misguided at best and the older I get the less I find the need to opine (or maybe my knowledge base is just shrinking.) As to whether you should read the book, I wouldn't opine on it if I hadn't. I realize you haven't, and your comment was a comment r/t me. That's fine. It's fair. What I have a problem with is the off point ad hominem attacks on an author over a book they have obviously never read.
As to the your last s sentence. Touché.
jmharris23
Moderator
I understand that many of you don't believe in Christ, I appreciate that you don't want to, and can see why you can't, but I have a hard time taking anyone who denies the historicity of Christ seriously. I think the evidence that he existed as a person is pretty overwhelming.
660griz
Senior Member
This is well known ploy to sell books...to Christians.
Strobel, himself, admitted he was not a well informed atheist. ""I had read just enough philosophy and history to find support for my skepticism - a fact here, a scientific theory there, a pithy quote, a clever argument"
Ever heard of the book "A Day in H3!!"?
Author was another supposed atheist that converted.
Huh?
WaltL1
Senior Member
I'm being lazy for not finding this out myself but -
Is he denying the existence of a man referred to as Jesus who preached etc... or
Is he denying the whole shebang? Jesus never existed, the ENTIRE story is made up etc?
jmharris23
Moderator
From what I read he denies the existence of a Jesus period....that he was completely made up.
ambush80
Senior Member
As I understand it, he offers "Jesus" as a possible amalgam of personalities and individuals. That's a common concept among theologians.
jmharris23
Moderator
Actually, its not that common.
"In modern scholarship, the Christ Myth Theory is a fringe theory, and is accepted by only a small number of academics. The Christ myth theory contradicts the mainstream historical view, which is that while the gospels include many mythical or legendary elements, these are religious elaborations added to the biography of a historical Jesus who did live in 1st-century Roman Palestine,[52][53][54][55][56][57][58] was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified by the order of the Roman Prefect Pontius Pilate.[59][60][61]
ambush80
Senior Member
Where's that from? I'd like to read more.
jmharris23
Moderator
Wikipedia for that is worth
As well as this
https://www.quora.com/Do-credible-h...-on-a-cross-by-Pilate-Roman-governor-of-Judea
I haven't done a ton of scholarly research on the Christ myth, but just from what little looking into it I have done, it doesn't seem to have a ton of proponents.
I do know that Bart Ehrman refutes it.
Broken Tine
Senior Member
Understandably, this thread went off the rails a little. Just curious if any of you guys have seen the movie yet? What did you think? Comparable to the book? I'm planning on going with some friends to see it Monday night (4/17).
660griz
Senior Member
ambush80
Senior Member
I might watch the movie if it makes it to Redbox some day. I was uncompelled by the book nor by the credibility of the author.
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