I've been going to SE KS for several years off and on. Every time I go with a guy named Don Mattox in Erie KS. He's the hardest working outfitter I've ever hunted with. He's a very nice guy and tries his darnedest to get his clients on good deer. I forgot what the name of his business is. Its not a big operation but he works hard for you. He's a friend of mine so give him a call and tell him Jason Graham sent ya.