WaltL1
Senior Member
Nobody cares if you don't believe in flying purple pigs. But if you have the audacity to not believe in God, then you MUST be put in a category so you can be clearly identified
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A question for believers
- Thread starter ambush80
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atlashunter
Senior Member
They are big on making claims. Not so much on actually substantiating them.
atlashunter
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ambush80
Senior Member
So how much thinking should one put into it and how do you know that amount is correct?
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
Well that'll throw a monkey wrench in the wheel
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkp...-major-win-in-federal-court-153aec1662a6/amp/
Psst, for the 56th time, I am not an atheist.
What wrench could that possibly be for me?
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
WaltL1
Senior Member
Perfect example of what I was talking about when I said this -
Quoting both of us multiple times, then providing a link that has absolutely nothing, zip, zero, nada to do with what we said in the quotes and then to top it off.....
claims to have thrown a monkey wrench into something. What I don't know because nothing in his response had anything to do with anything
Like I said.... wacky stuff.
Spotlite
Resident Homesteader
Absolutely wrong. It's a simple point to indicate that when you're (not you personally) are constantly digging and searching for proof to validate who you are, you lose sight of who you are. Even to the point of redefining things. As "wacky" as my belief may sound to you, I at least stand firm and un-wavered with it.
bullethead
Of the hard cast variety
That and a dollar will get you a large soda at Micky Ds
j_seph
Senior Member
Actually..................................Not at all
WaltL1
Senior Member
Personally, I have no doubt that he had some sort of "Spiritual event".
You believe God did that.
I believe the chemicals in his brain coupled with his deep belief in God, did that.
There are lots of examples and techniques, spanning lots of religions and even non religions, where one puts themselves in another frame of mind/has a "spiritual event".
Its all about the chemicals released into ones brain.
atlashunter
Senior Member
Funny how believers have different experiences that validate their different beliefs. Almost like they are acting out what they believe the spirit to be doing.
drippin' rock
Senior Member
Confirmation bias.
drippin' rock
Senior Member
ambush80
Senior Member
Or MDMA.
Israel
BANNED
Is the humor found in His allowing you to think and speak He is other than that? Is that what is funny? Or, is it something else?
Have you never experienced mercy?
Do you think it not a real thing?
By what is your consciousness informed in its being?
If, as the few subsequent conversations seek to show it is all and only "in your head", a chemical hodgepodge of what men have adopted in calling neurotransmitters and the like, and that would be the all to, and of consciousness, I am all the more interested to hear what is going on. In this, in these, apparent expressions of consciousness. Is anything going on? Nothing? If so, what is your answer for continuance? "My chemicals feel better...when we continue"?
Oh...so is it really "just you" (and not the believer?) that is solely in it "for the feels"?
What will your chemicals tell me? Or anyone for that matter? Anything? Anything other than "this is chemicals speaking"? Broken down further to molecules and the atoms that compose them...these are but atoms...talking. Writing...expressing themselves.
OK, talking atoms. Expressive...atoms.(And whatever else may be waiting...smaller, to perhaps yet be found)
But never, never! as is so fondly (does fondness exist?) inserted...a talking donkey. OK. Chemicals can talk (but only man's chemicals...my own, your own)...but donkeys...no...not donkeys. And surely not a fig tree can speak of anything. And surely rocks and stones would never cry out.
"And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out."
(Do stones "inform you"? If not...why not? And if I tell you they have informed me, in their being, of being itself (and I know I am far from the first), what of your chemicals... would your chemicals...make of it? "Look at that big thing hanging in the sky...let's reach for it and see of what it may inform us!
"One small step for man..."
Yet...I hear a laughter. "That's funny right there"
Like Moses heard though, its timbre is not one of joyful celebration of being. More like a snicker. And even snickers are allowed their being. Snickering at mercy...even.
But you are, to your own chemicals, free. (Or in bondage, depending upon view)
Man is made, has being, and is made capable of snickering. And how could it possibly matter to chemicals at all if that were all their capability? Unless they be troubled chemicals.
Be careful of what you feed, for it will surely follow you home.
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WaltL1
Senior Member
I see those innocent kids suffering.
If your God has the ability to do something about that and doesn't............ I see this as mere propaganda -
I don't have to come up with all kinds of stories or philosophies or excuses to cover for the fact that an all powerful and "above all merciful God", could do something about that and chooses not to.
Christianity has painted a picture of what God "is".
Christians have come up with a million different excuses/work arounds of why the picture and reality don't match.
WaltL1
Senior Member
It's actually a big wrench for Christianity.
They are some smart Atheists. Get legally classified as a religion and then you have the legal ground to claim that any sort of religious prayer, reference etc that takes place in a government setting/building/function is an attack on their legal religious rights.
They are fighting religion/Christianity with Christianity's own play book.
And making forward progress.
WaltL1
Senior Member
660griz
Senior Member
Funny on several levels. 1) God, the being that doesn't exist, being anything, except in ones mind, is just funny.
2)The God, as explained in the Bible, is anything but merciful.
3)The God, as you look around the world, is anything but merciful.
Maybe. I guess my parents could have punished me more if they wanted.
Maybe a sniper had me in his/her crosshairs and decided against it cause I had a kind face. How do you know you experienced mercy unless you are told you experienced mercy?
It is real. I looked it up.
compassion or forgiveness shown toward someone whom it is within one's power to punish or harm.
Annnnddddd, ya lost me.
Only if I don't put a bullet in its head. (Mercy)
Yes. I once had a weather rock. Wet = raining, white = snowing, moved = windy, etc.
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