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Old 01-06-2018, 11:35 AM
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Daytime color pictures are really dark, noticed battery level was low, can that cause poor daytime photos or maybe something else going on.
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Something else going on. Only thing the batter life will effect is trigger speed and it won’t take pictures. What type of camera.
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What are the night pictures like?
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Low batteries will cause them to do all kind of wierd things. On one of my moultries the night time pics will have white going up and down. The deader they get the thicker the lines get
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I never let my batteries get below 50 percent. Like sgo says, the low batteries will cause all sorts of malfunctions. Even the IR camera's have a capacitor and it takes a lot of power to charge that, not to mention the writing to the sd cards and all the other things that make the circuitboard work.
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I use Browning range ops cameras for some 4 years now and they have been best for me of all the brands that I have used. Wondering if I have used up my SDHC card sandisk 8GB. I keep a camera out at my house and take some 1500 to 2000 pictures a week. I keep the ones that appeal to me in files I call Back Yard Deer (BYD). When I clear card I will reformat every time on my computer before putting back in camera. The night pictures in black and white are clear images. Only the color ones have gotten really dark. If I can find a multi pack of san disk I will try some new cards but the prices on SD cards have really gone up. Trigger speed still same as I have camera on a 3 shot sequence and camera is firing as usual.
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I use Browning range ops cameras for some 4 years now and they have been best for me of all the brands that I have used. Wondering if I have used up my SDHC card sandisk 8GB. I keep a camera out at my house and take some 1500 to 2000 pictures a week. I keep the ones that appeal to me in files I call Back Yard Deer (BYD). When I clear card I will reformat every time on my computer before putting back in camera. The night pictures in black and white are clear images. Only the color ones have gotten really dark. If I can find a multi pack of san disk I will try some new cards but the prices on SD cards have really gone up. Trigger speed still same as I have camera on a 3 shot sequence and camera is firing as usual.
Not familiar with browning cameras but can you delete pics on the camera?
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Yes sir I can.
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One thing I have been told is to never delete a card off anything other than the camera itself. I use to have problems with cards and that's what customer support at moultrie told me. Since then I've had no problems
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Browning recommends you reformat card in the camera but were not recommending never to format on computer.
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Try that since they recommend it
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I can tell a difference in types of batteries in some cams, too. Duracells-no comparison to any other kind or brand.
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I agree about Duracell batterys, but I let my billfold make some of my purchase decisions. Believe the saying goes you get what you pay for .
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1500=2000 pics a week for how many weeks, all things wear out in most cases.
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3 to 4 years but I rotate 4 cameras periodically. I now have 3 browning and 1 primos. Had several different makes of Moultries but did not have best of luck with these. The browning cameras to date have been most reliable and best that I have owned, but they have a lot of pictures and usage. During hunting season I put 3 in woods and keep one at my house for all my BYD.
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I am guessing with the number of pictures on SD cards over time may have caused a problem. Need to try a new one and see what happens.
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I always move and delete photos on an SD cards on my computer. One thing I have learned, turn off the camera before removing the card and also use the "eject" or "remove" feature on your computer before removing the SD card. It prevents errors on the card.

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try new batteries and find out. Easiest thing to do first.
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I always move and delete photos on an SD cards on my computer. One thing I have learned, turn off the camera before removing the card and also use the "eject" or "remove" feature on your computer before removing the SD card. It prevents errors on the card.

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I use to use my computer and a camera to view and erase pictures but started getting errors showing up on cards. I probably throwed away $100 worth of cards over the yrs until I found out that card have different settings on them and all trail cameras have the same but other cameras and viewing devices may be different
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All good information. Thanks for input, will start trying different things to see if I can clear up mystery.
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All good information. Thanks for input, will start trying different things to see if I can clear up mystery.
Luckybuck, I hope that you can get things worked out in regards to your on-going problem. At least now, you have a decent starting point for some trial and error trials.

I have been keeping updated on this thread for the past few days now. I see some information that is surely not correct and I see some that is right on target.

I will say this with out question, the quality of trail camera photos will begin to diminish as the level of battery life gets down to the one bar level.

I make that statement because I do have lots of experience with trail cameras as I have 37 of them in the woods 24/7/365 and I own a total of 62 of them. I have been keeping very detailed records on every one of my cameras over the past 7 years now. Just during 2016 and 2017, my cameras took a total of 258,007 photos. Yes, I have had some failures along the way and if the warranty had expired, I replaced that camera with a new one instead. I did have two failures under warranty back in 2012 and WGI replaced those cameras immediately. Over the years, after a cameras may have failed for whatever reason I have brought the failed camera home and took it apart somewhat and did my best to check all of the features that I could. On one camera, a woodpecker pecked a hole right through the sensor lens. That camera was salvaged and put back in service after I took out the original lens from another camera from 2 years prior and installed it and it still works fine today. Back about 4 years ago, I had one camera that had a moisture problem during the middle of the HOT summer. What I found was the fact that the interior of this camera was reaching over 100 degrees F every day and as it cooled down at night and then got back super hot the next day, the moisture would be created inside and would short out the terminals etc. I ultimately brought this camera home and took it apart as much as I could and then put white rice inside of it and closed it back up in a one-gallon ZIP-LOC bag for over a month. When I opened it back up, I took out all of the rice residue and then used an air hose blow it out and then vacuumed it too. I put it back in service and it lasted another 2 more years after I moved it to a different location. I have some cameras that have been in continuous service since late 2012 and I have an assortment of various model types that were manufactured from 2013-2017 that I bought just to try and see if I could find a better camera model for my uses.

Because I do know the exact life on all of my trail camera batteries, I decided back in 2014 to start using the DURACELL Quantum batteries in all of my AA battery cameras. I just bought my first two packages of size "C" Quantum batteries recently and I will using them in the future on certain cameras that require the size "C" cell batteries in the future. I have always used the Duracell brand because they have performed really well for me over the years. But with trail cameras, based on my records, I know first hand that the Quantum batteries last longer. I buy them from Sam's club ONLY when they are on sale. It actually saves you money in the long run.

I did my best to check my cameras most every weekend over these years. Since I ONLY use WGI cameras, their cameras are very easy to set up in the field and they have an area that shows the battery level of energy on each one of my cameras. I do check the battery levels on EVERY new battery before I even take them to the woods and ultimately change them out. I know that EVERY one of them have 1.62 Volts of energy before they go into my cameras. Since I frequently visit my cameras each week, I DO check the battery level from 4 Bars (being the maximum level down to the 1 BAR level). When any of my cameras get down to the ONE BAR level, I change it out right there in the woods. I physically write the date of this new installation on every one of these new batteries as I install them. Likewise all of the old "diminished" batteries that I am taking out already has the original date of installation. When I get back home to upload all of the photos for the week, I also check the remaining energy level of every failed battery that I have put into a "snack size" Lip-Loc bag. I catalog every detail of that information for every specific camera so that I do know the exact performance of each camera and set of batteries involved. I do recycle all of my spent batteries too (which is currently a bag that weighs 22 lbs). One other very important fact is on some cameras, when changing out memory cards, the cards are installed 180 degrees opposite (backwards) of most cameras so don't jam it in wrong and try to make it work because it will damage your memory card that way. I realize that this is not a problem for most users BUT for users with as many cameras as I use, you have to always remember just which cameras work that way.

Earlier this evening, I checked the last 21 times that I have changed out batteries on various cameras. We all have to realize that the exact battery performs different in one cameras versus another. In these last 21 change-outs, the battery life went from a high level of 16, 14, 11, 12, 10 1/2, 9, 8 1/2, down to 6, 5 1/2, 5, and 4 1/2 months depending on which camera was involved.

Most of you probably didn't realize it BUT a AA Duracell Quantum battery does have 1.62 Volts of energy to begin with and it is VERY COMMON that when I change these out at the "ONE BAR" level in various models of cameras, the remaining voltage left in the last 21 change-out times included levels from a remaining high of 1.31V down to 1.20V. The majority of the 21 readings were in the range of 1.27V down to 1.22V. Based on my experience, the Quantums do hold a charge longer than the regular "Copper-Top" batteries. I do check every new battery and also after the batteries are removed with a CEN-TECH Digital Multimeter (of which you can get free from time to time at Harbor Freight Tools). Thankfully, I have 3 of them and they work excellent for testing lots of different things. When my cameras get down to one bar of energy left, their functions are not as sharp in color/night time black and white clarity. The sensor reaction time is not as good as the batteries reach a lower levels of energy. I do believe that fact happens on most every camera brand manufactured for trail cameras.

I surely agree with rosewood's comments as you ALWAYS CUT OFF YOUR CAMERA before removing the memory cards. Otherwise, you can very easily lose your photos from the previous week. Yes, a long time ago, I learned the hard way too. I always swap out the cards from my cameras and install new ones in the woods. I bring all of them home and upload them directly onto my computer, then follow the exact procedure that he mentioned so the data on every memory card is ultimately completely deleted after it was transferred onto your hard-drive. Then you have the option to review and possibly delete OR keep any of your chosen photos. This reformatted card is then ready to be used next week as I swap the cards out again. In my case every card is identified with the exact camera location and I use the same card back and forth every week as such. Since every camera has an exact location, it has made it very easy to maintain a library of various camera photos over the past 7 years now.

In regards to failed Memory cards, I have ONLY used the Sandisk cards and 90% of them are 8 GB cards and some are 4 GB cards for low volume locations etc. In all of these years, I have ONLY had two cards to fail for whatever reason. Keep in mind that I have used these cards most every week for 7 years now as I inset them into my cameras etc, then take them out a week later, bring them home and insert them into my computer and after reformatting them, they are put back into the package to be used again the following week in the woods. I am surprised that I haven't worn them completely out in the process BUT I have been fortunate so far. I'm in the process now of buying another 40 of the 8 GB cards so that it will cover all of my cameras with plenty of spares whenever I install them in the woods. The Walmart manager ordered them for me a couple of days ago since they don't keep the 8 GB cards in stock very much.

One other thing is to realize that just because a camera is a 12MP, 14MP, 16MP, 20MP or even a 22MP doesn't make them any better overall than a 6MP, 8MP or a 10MP camera. It takes a lot of trial and error BUT you might realize that a certain camera needs to be set on the "MEDIUM" setting rather the the "HIGH" setting for maximum performance etc. Another thing that a lot of trail camera owners don't realize is the fact that a 10MP camera that you program for "High Setting" levels really is taking 10 MP photos and on the "Medium Setting", it might be taking 8 MP and on the "Low Setting", it should be 6MP photos. It works that way with most of the trail cameras when you program properly BUT it does take practice to really decide which photos are the best for your location. Based on where you decide to actually locate your camera can make the difference from 200 photos per week or maybe 10 photos per week also. Just don't get discouraged in the process.

In fact, some of the best performing cameras that I have are 6MP, 7 MP, and 10 MP cameras. THE ABSOLUTE WORSE CAMERA THAT I HAVE IS A NANO 22MP CAMERA. It is a very small camera (holds ONLY 4 AA batteries) that can be well hidden as such. I thought originally that it would be great BUT it takes up lots more memory on each card and the 6MP Blade X6 camera that sits a foot above it out-performs it every day. They are both located on the same tree over-looking the edge of my pasture. Recently, I removed the Nano 22MP camera and brought it home to use it more as security camera instead.

I hope that some of this information might be useful to other camera users. I surely don't mind sharing any of my experiences that could possibly be helpful to others.
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Very detailed post, thanks. That is what I am checking results of different settings and different brand SD cards I own. I too use the SanDisk card with 8gb and speed of 4. Only time and experimenting with the cameras will tell if I am making progress or if it is something in camera beyond my capability to solve. Thanks.
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