How long is a Creation day?

How long is a Creation day?

A day is a length of time that varies according to subject matter. For example, it’s common to use the word day to mean an era, an age, a generation, or the life span of a person. The question for this discussion is, “How long is a Creation day?”

Many people are adamant that when Genesis 1:5 says, “and there was evening and there was morning, a first day,” it was a time period of 24 hours. Are they right? Let us see.

Genesis 1:14,15, says of the sun and moon . . . “they must serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years. They will serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.”

Note the sun and moon were to serve the earth. However, the Bible tells us that God doesn’t need to rest and he’s a spirit person so he doesn’t need light to see. Since God doesn’t have our constraints it’s readily apparent that he doesn’t need to use our units of time. So why would we assume God consigned himself to using our 24 hour days in creation?

The Bible tells us a thousand years is as a day to God. (2 Peter 3:8) (See also Psalms 90:4) So the question arises, why would God create everything in 24 hour time periods? Twenty-four hours is the length of our day, not Gods, and he’s the one doing the creating.

Since we know the word day can mean different lengths of time, the best one can do in determining a creation days length is to consider the creation context and to take into account what other scriptures in the Bible have to say about creation. When you do so you find you still won’t know the length of each creative day, but the evidence indicates creative days were much longer than 24 hours.

THE THIRD DAY
(Genesis 1:11-13) 11And God went on to say: “Let the earth cause grass to shoot forth, vegetation bearing seed, fruit trees yielding fruit according to their kinds, the seed of which is in it, upon the earth.” And it came to be so. 12And the earth began to put forth grass, vegetation bearing seed according to its kind and trees yielding fruit, the seed of which is in it according to its kind. Then God saw that [it was] good. 13And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a third day.

Note that God says, “Let the earth cause grass to shoot forth . . . the seed of which is in it, upon the earth.” It doesn’t say God caused grass to shoot forth. Apparently he only planted the seeds and let the earth produce the vegetation right from the start.

Notice also that in verse 12 the text specifically states that the ". . . Earth began to put forth . . . trees yielding fruit."

Yes, God could have planted full grown vegetation, however he didn’t grow vegetation to maturity himself, he planted seed and let the earth . . . “cause grass to shoot forth.”

Now if you think that this could still all happen in 24 hours, notice that verse 12 shows that the earth began putting forth vegetation. The text specifically states that the “. . . Earth began to put forth . . . trees yielding fruit.” The point here is that fruit-bearing trees require several years growth to produce fruit. The text states that the earth produced these trees.

The text shows that God seeded the earth, and then let the earth do it’s job. Thus the context indicates that the third creative day was longer than 24 hours.

THE FIFTH DAY
(Genesis 1:20-23) 20And God went on to say: “Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” 21And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. 22With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” 23And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day.

Notice that God blessed his creations. The sea creatures were to, ‘fill the sea basins,’ and the birds were to, ‘become many.’ Their doing so would of course take more than 24 hours.

Another point. Consider that God only created two of mankind, Adam and Eve. He then blessed them and told them to fill the earth and subdue it. Besides the case of Adam and Eve we have Noah's Ark as an example of just a pair of creatures being needed to populate the earth with their kind. That being the case it’s likely he just created two of each creature and let them multiply on their own.

Again when you consider the context of what the Bible says you come to the conclusion that the fifth creative day was longer than 24 hours.

THE SIXTH DAY
(Genesis 1:24-31) And God went on to say: “Let the earth put forth living souls according to their kinds, domestic animal and moving animal and wild beast of the earth according to its kind.” And it came to be so. 25And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good.

26And God went on to say: “Let us make man in our image, according to our likeness, and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth and every moving animal that is moving upon the earth.” 27And God proceeded to create the man in his image, in God’s image he created him; male and female he created them. 28Further, God blessed them and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.”

29And God went on to say: “Here I have given to YOU all vegetation bearing seed which is on the surface of the whole earth and every tree on which there is the fruit of a tree bearing seed. To YOU let it serve as food. 30And to every wild beast of the earth and to every flying creature of the heavens and to everything moving upon the earth in which there is life as a soul I have given all green vegetation for food.” And it came to be so. 31After that God saw everything he had made and, look! [it was] very good. And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.

We see on the sixth creative day God created both domestic and wild animals as well as Adam and Eve. The second chapter of Genesis adds further details to the creation account. Notice what Genesis 2:18-23 says,

(Genesis 2:18-23) 18And Jehovah God went on to say: “It is not good for the man to continue by himself. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” 19Now Jehovah God was forming from the ground every wild beast of the field and every flying creature of the heavens, and he began bringing them to the man to see what he would call each one; and whatever the man would call it, each living soul, that was its name. 20So the man was calling the names of all the domestic animals and of the flying creatures of the heavens and of every wild beast of the field, but for man there was found no helper as a complement of him. 21Hence Jehovah God had a deep sleep fall upon the man and, while he was sleeping, he took one of his ribs and then closed up the flesh over its place. 22And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and to bring her to the man. 23Then the man said: “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man this one was taken.”

There are several things that indicate the sixth creative day was longer than 24 hours. First, the creation account says that God would bring the birds and animals to the man for him to name them. Obviously there were no artificial lights back then, so this naming task would have to take place in daylight so Adam could see them. So if a creation day was only 24 hours long Adam only had about 12 hours to name all the animals, not a full 24 hours.

Consider the math. Meaning how many animals and birds could Adam name in 12 daylight hours? This would appear to be an impossible job for Adam to accomplish in one day.

Another point. Does it seem to you that God would give Adam a job to do right after he created him? That would have been the case if each creation day were just 24 hours long. Or would he instruct Adam with the things he needed to know and then give him time to orientate himself and time to explore his new home? Big companies routinely give new hires a period of orientation to familiarize themselves with their new surroundings.

Remember Adam is a newborn as to experience and knowledge. He wouldn’t know anything other than what God had told him.

We also need to remember that God said, “It is not good for the man to continue by himself. I am going to make a helper for him, as a complement of him.” That statement is not something God would likely say after only a few hours. And as busy as Adam would have been studying and naming the birds and animals he wouldn’t have had time to get lonely on the first day.

Also notice what Adam said when God brought the woman to him, “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called woman, because from man this one was taken.”

Adam’s first sentence where he says, “At last. . .“ indicates he had waited for some time for God to provide him with a mate. This doesn't appear to be what someone would likely say after having only lived for a few hours himself, and has spent most of his time naming animals.

Adam’s second sentence indicates that he studied whatever was brought to him before he provided it with it’s name. Notice he says, “This one,” indicating he had already named others. Then he continues and gives a reason for giving the woman her name saying, “This one will be called Woman. Because. . . ”

The context shows Adam gave a reason for giving the woman her name. The way the sentence is worded indicates he likely gave a reason for giving the birds and animals their names also. Th

They way we view names today gives support to Adam having a reason for each name. We always like to give forethought before providing something or someone a name. We are so serious about names that books full of names have been produced to aid expectant parents in deciding on a baby’s name. And very often when a name is decided on others want to know the reason the name was chosen.

If creation days were 24 hour days as some insist, it’s apparent it would have been rushing things for Adam to have provided names to all the birds and animals in just a few hours, maybe impossible. We might consider too that there would have been no need to rush things, Adam had the prospect of living forever. With such being the case does it make sense that God would give Adam a task to do almost immediately after creating him? That would have had to have been the case if he were to have named all the birds and animals on the first day.

It’s much more likely God gave Adam time to settle in and explore before he gave him the task of naming the birds and animals. Just exploring the Garden of Eden would likely have taken Adam weeks if not months since the Bible says their were four rivers in the Garden of Eden.

In reading about the 6th day and then reasoning on it, it becomes apparent that the 6th day was also longer than 24 hours.

THE SEVENTH DAY
Before the 7th day began the Bible gives closure to the other days with the words:

(Genesis 1:5) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a first day. (Genesis 1:8) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a second day. (Genesis 1:13) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a third day. (Genesis 1:19) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fourth day. (Genesis 1:23) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day. (Genesis 1:31) . . . And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a sixth day.

However, the Bible says something different about the seventh day:
(Genesis 2:1-3) . . .Thus the heavens and the earth and everything in them were completed. 2 And by the seventh day, God had completed the work that he had been doing, and he began to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had been doing. 3 And God went on to bless the seventh day and to declare it sacred, for on it God has been resting from all the work that he has created, all that he purposed to make.

The Bible doesn’t give a closure to the seventh day, it says . . . “for on it God has been resting from all the work that he has created, all that he purposed to make.”

There are no reports in the Bible of the seventh day ending. Where it says God has been resting, does it mean it is still ongoing? According to the Bible, yes! The apostle Paul shows it was still ongoing thousands of years later in his day.

In the Bible book of Hebrews the apostle Paul tells us that most of the Israelites that Moses led out of Egypt lacked faith and were disobedient, causing God to become disgusted with them.

They were eye witnesses to God’s miracles, they lived though the ten plagues on Egypt, and they crossed the Red Sea on dry ground because of a Godly miracle, but they rebelled and wanted to elect a leader to take them back to Egypt because 10 of the men sent to spy out the promised land brought back a report saying the people living in the promised land were giants and too much for them.

Their rebellion showed a complete lack of faith in God, so he swore that they would not enter into his rest. Paul then urges Christians to do their utmost to enter into God's rest. Let’s read that account.

(Hebrews 3:16-4:5) 16 For who heard and yet provoked him to bitter anger? Was it not, in fact, all those who went out of Egypt under Moses? 17 Moreover, with whom did God become disgusted for 40 years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose dead bodies fell in the wilderness? 18 And to whom did he swear that they would not enter into his rest? Was it not to those who acted disobediently? 19 So we see that they could not enter in because of lack of faith. 4 Therefore, since a promise of entering into his rest remains, let us be on guard for fear someone among you seems to fall short of it.

2 For we have also had the good news declared to us, just as they had; but the word that they heard did not benefit them, because they were not united by faith with those who listened. 3 For we who have exercised faith do enter into the rest, just as he has said: “So I swore in my anger, ‘They will not enter into my rest,’” although his works were finished from the founding of the world. 4 For in one place he has said of the seventh day as follows: “And God rested on the seventh day from all his works,” 5 and here again he says: “They will not enter into my rest.”

Note that in those last two verses Paul shows that entering into God’s rest means God’s rest day. In verse 4:1 he says, “since a promise of entering into his rest remains, let us be on guard for fear someone among you seems to fall short of it.”

Paul wouldn’t have urged Christians to enter into God’s rest day if it were not ongoing in his day. In verse 4 above Paul says very pointedly, “. . . a promise of entering into his rest remains.”

For our discussion on the length of creative days we see other scriptures point to the 7th day as being thousands of years long.

In summation, the Bible doesn't provide a time period on the length of the creation days. However it does give information that points to creation days being longer than 24 hours, sometimes thousands of years long. Ascribing not just 24 hours, but thousands of years to each of the creative days harmonizes with both what the Bible says, as well as with scientific evidence found in the earth, and the universe around us.

SIDEBAR: What does it mean to enter God’s rest day?
God swore disobedient Israelites would not enter his rest. The apostle Paul encouraged Christians to enter God’s rest. Apparently it means that obedient, faithful people, that enter and are still faithful at the end of the 7th day have the prospects of then entering into the new creative week and living forever. Conversely, those who are disobedient and unfaithful and don’t enter into God’s rest day will not be alive at the end of God’s rest day.

SIDEBAR: What will happen after God’s rest day ends?
Other than another creative day starting we don’t know much. We do know God is finished with the earth.

The Bible says at Genesis 2:1-3, Thus the heavens and the earth and everything in them were completed. 2 And by the seventh day, God had completed the work that he had been doing, and he began to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had been doing. 3 And God went on to bless the seventh day and to declare it sacred, for on it God has been resting from all the work that he has created, all that he purposed to make.

The Bible says that God completed the heavens and the earth and everything in them. So after the seventh day is completed it’s logical God will start creating again. Doing what, we can only guess?

If he’s going to continue creating in the vicinity of the earth maybe he will make Mars, or Venus, livable for some new creation? Then again being God, he could create something that none of mankind would ever conceive of.

SIDEBAR: What doesn’t God produce miracles in our day?
There are many people that say if God would just preform miracles today they would put faith in him. But the Israelites that came out of Egypt prove that line of reasoning untrue. They were eye witnesses to miracle after miracle from God, they lived though the ten plagues, they were witnesses to the Red sea being split so they could cross on dry ground, they followed a pillar of smoke during the day and a pillar of fire at night. They drank water produced from a rock, etc., and they still didn’t put faith in God. Instead they rebelled because 10 of the 12 spies sent into the promised land said the people living in the promised land were giants and too much for them.

What’s needed today is for people to read their Bibles. 2nd Timothy 3:16, 17 says, 16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.

Since the Bible completely equips us for every good work, a miracle is not needed to help us put faith in God. All you have to do is regularly read your Bible.

Note what Proverbs 2:1-12 says about God’s word, “My son, if you accept my sayings And treasure up my commandments, 2 By making your ear attentive to wisdom And inclining your heart to discernment; 3 Moreover, if you call out for understanding And raise your voice for discernment; 4 If you keep seeking for it as for silver, And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures; 5 Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah, And you will find the knowledge of God.” 6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom; From his mouth come knowledge and discernment. 7 He treasures up practical wisdom for the upright; He is a shield for those walking in integrity. 8 He watches over the paths of justice, And he will guard the way of his loyal ones. 9 Then you will understand what is righteous and just and fair, The entire course of what is good. 10 When wisdom enters your heart And knowledge becomes pleasant to your soul, 11 Thinking ability will keep watch over you, And discernment will safeguard you, 12 To save you from the bad course . . .”
 

ryanh487

Senior Member
I find it saddening that we believe in a God that is infinite, omnipotent, and omnipresent, but find it so difficult to believe that He could possibly create the earth in 7 literal days just because atheist say it's silly.

The 7 day week is based on creation. There is no natural time period for it. The 7th day sabbath is based on Creation, and God meant the literal 7th day "as he had rested and made it holy", not "to symbolize that long period of time that i metaphorically described". I think the "and it was morning and it was evening" clearly and distinctly defines a 24 hour period, and I don't think it's any stretch of faith or logic to assume that our God is capable of such.
 

ryanh487

Senior Member
The Bible doesn't say it was morning and evening, it says just the opposite.

you're right, my mistake. but that's also why God commanded the israelites to begin the day at sundown of the previous day. evening + morning = 1 day. Sabbath begins at sundown Friday and lasts until sundown Saturday.
 

doenightmare

Gone But Not Forgotten
2 Peter 3:8

Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
 

ryanh487

Senior Member
2 Peter 3:8

Beloved, do not let this one thing escape your notice: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

In context:

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

He is not saying that if you go back to Genesis that 1 day = 1000 years. He is saying that God's promises are sure, and his timing is perfect. It was a simile to encourage the Christians to remain strong in their faith and be alert even if it seems like it's taking longer than expected for Christ to return.
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
The atheist, the non-believer, the doubter and the agnostic need a long period of time for creation to happen, so they can justify random chance to create what they see.

The foolishness of this argument is that God rested on the 7th day. After Adam had been created. So, did Adam live for several millenia resting with God? Just how long was this 7th day rest that God commanded Adam to take, and how many thousands or millions of years did he have to work before he got another "day" of rest?

If you read a literal translation, it is perfectly plain that the writer believed, and wrote that it was a literal sunset to sunset day.
 

groundhawg

Senior Member
I find it saddening that we believe in a God that is infinite, omnipotent, and omnipresent, but find it so difficult to believe that He could possibly create the earth in 7 literal days just because atheist say it's silly.

The 7 day week is based on creation. There is no natural time period for it. The 7th day sabbath is based on Creation, and God meant the literal 7th day "as he had rested and made it holy", not "to symbolize that long period of time that i metaphorically described". I think the "and it was morning and it was evening" clearly and distinctly defines a 24 hour period, and I don't think it's any stretch of faith or logic to assume that our God is capable of such.

Well stated. Thanks for sharing.
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night."

So even if a day was 1,000 years long, it was light.

Plants appeared on day 3. The sun on day 4. Could plants live 1000 years without the sun's light?

It depends on how much of God's science we are willing to overlook. God can grow plants with his light?
 
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ryanh487

Senior Member
"And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night."

So even if a day was 1,000 years long, it was light.

Plants appeared on day 3. The sun on day 4. Could plants live 1000 years without the suns light?

It depends on how much of God's science we are willing to overlook. God can grow plants with his light?

Excellent point. In fact, I would say that the creator in his infinite wisdom chose to order the days of creation like that to make it clear as possible a day meant a day.
 

hobbs27

Senior Member
In context:

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

He is not saying that if you go back to Genesis that 1 day = 1000 years. He is saying that God's promises are sure, and his timing is perfect. It was a simile to encourage the Christians to remain strong in their faith and be alert even if it seems like it's taking longer than expected for Christ to return.
Thank you. :cheers:
 

hummerpoo

Gone but not forgotten
While time is introduced in the creation passage, I wonder if we sometimes assign more consequence to time, as a factor in creation, than warranted.

The creation passage is about two characters (or one character and one set of characters), the Creator and the creation. Should we not first consider the question “Which is more beneficial, to gain knowledge of the Creator or to gain knowledge of the creation?” Who of us truly understands the fifth word of our English translations? It could be said that Paul understood the purpose of creation to be what it reveals about the Creator (Rm. 1). How much does the time factor in the creation passage add to our understanding of the Creator? Do not who and what take precedence over when and how? Does not “created” sufficiently answer how, and does not “in the beginning” sufficiently answer when?

While it is true that the believer can benefit, in his service to God, from knowledge of everything that has been revealed to us, only God-centered knowledge is truly beneficial. (Pr. 9:10) “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.”

What is understanding?—“knowledge of the Holy One”
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
If we realize that God knew us before Creation, time isn't as important.
Suddenly I'm faced with why God uses time. Is time just some concept created by God to keep order within his creation?
 

gordon 2

Senior Member
If we realize that God knew us before Creation, time isn't as important.
Suddenly I'm faced with why God uses time. Is time just some concept created by God to keep order within his creation?

The concept of time, as we know it, used both figuratively and literally, might be a consequence of the fall. I have noticed that many measure time with death (ending). However time measured in the life due to grace might be viewed without ending, or with no death all in part at least because the the time mark is renewal, creation, birth, new life and life continuing and sustained post physical death, etc...

So a day to God and believers might just be as a 1000yrs, with 1000yrs being a unit where reference in things that expire or end is harder to come by than the references more easily attained in our daily, and within the yearly, and the decades of our lives in the world.

So time can be used to order life, that is when it is a platform with an expiry date. If it's God's doing via the curse than yes it might be of use in focusing man's attention to what really matters. So you might have a point. However the life given due to grace is possibly in a timeless state-- a consequence of eternal life. Maybe.

So a creation day for God is not the same as a creation day for a taxidermist, Maybe. ;)
 
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apoint

Senior Member
maybe God was meaning Doris Day and Gladys Night were created in 24 hours?
 
The atheist, the non-believer, the doubter and the agnostic need a long period of time for creation to happen, so they can justify random chance to create what they see.

Add to that list scientists and Christians, not because of a need, but because science and the Bible show creation days took longer than six 24 hour days. Not every one that calls themselves Christian's believes God created the earth in 144 hours.

The foolishness of this argument is that God rested on the 7th day. After Adam had been created.

God created Adam and Eve on the 6th day. He created Eve after Adam.

I agree on the foolishness of the argument. If creation days were 24 hours long and God’s rest day was 24 hours long, the creation week would have been over a long time ago. God would have went back to creating long ago. Since we can’t see anything happening with our telescopes, whatever work he would be doing would have to be far away.

My question, what if he is creating other habitable worlds? With a 24 hour a day work week he’s had time to create thousands of worlds. Worlds aren’t all the same size, so what if their days are 50 hours long? Does he still hold to a 24 hour work day? Why would he do that? Answer, he wouldn’t, he would create on his own time table, not man’s.

So, did Adam live for several millenia resting with God?

Genesis 5:5 says, “So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.”

Just how long was this 7th day rest that God commanded Adam to take, and how many thousands or millions of years did he have to work before he got another "day" of rest?

It’s God’s rest day, not Adam’s. God didn’t command Adam to rest. His command to Adam and Eve involved work. Genesis 1:28 says, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.”

The Bible doesn’t say exactly how long creation days were, but it does give enough information to show they weren’t 24 hour days.

If they were 24 hour days, why does the Bible account not have God pronouncing the 7th day over? The reason is because the 7th day is not yet over. The apostle Paul says it was still ongoing in his day. [Read Hebrews 3:16-4:5]

If you read a literal translation, it is perfectly plain that the writer believed, and wrote that it was a literal sunset to sunset day.

Disagree!
 

ryanh487

Senior Member
Add to that list scientists and Christians, not because of a need, but because science and the Bible show creation days took longer than six 24 hour days. Not every one that calls themselves Christian's believes God created the earth in 144 hours.



God created Adam and Eve on the 6th day. He created Eve after Adam.

I agree on the foolishness of the argument. If creation days were 24 hours long and God’s rest day was 24 hours long, the creation week would have been over a long time ago. God would have went back to creating long ago. Since we can’t see anything happening with our telescopes, whatever work he would be doing would have to be far away.

My question, what if he is creating other habitable worlds? With a 24 hour a day work week he’s had time to create thousands of worlds. Worlds aren’t all the same size, so what if their days are 50 hours long? Does he still hold to a 24 hour work day? Why would he do that? Answer, he wouldn’t, he would create on his own time table, not man’s.



Genesis 5:5 says, “So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.”



It’s God’s rest day, not Adam’s. God didn’t command Adam to rest. His command to Adam and Eve involved work. Genesis 1:28 says, God blessed them, and God said to them: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.”

The Bible doesn’t say exactly how long creation days were, but it does give enough information to show they weren’t 24 hour days.

If they were 24 hour days, why does the Bible account not have God pronouncing the 7th day over? The reason is because the 7th day is not yet over. The apostle Paul says it was still ongoing in his day. [Read Hebrews 3:16-4:5]



Disagree!


The 7th day rest was established for all people before Sinai and the 10 commandments.

Also, science's demand for creation to take longer than 6 days is based on the idea that it knows how things were in the beginning. And frankly, it is completely blind to these things. We do not know what state or how much of each isotope/etc existed when God said "let their be" or how long the formless and void earth existed before God began creation, or even if the current creation is the only one to have ever existed on this planet. The earth being billions of years old as a physical entity and the current creation only taking 6 days to form a matter of thousands of years ago are not entirely exclusive. Nor does it say anywhere that our planet, or even our dimension/reality, is the only creation in existence. Job speaks of the 24 elders reporting to God, and Lucifer was present as a representative of earth. It is absolutely conceivable that there are infinite other creations in parallel with our reality even if they are not a part of our reality. As has been said, our dimension of time did not exist until creation started, and not only that, but since God is not limited by our dimension or our physical world, there is no reason to conclude that there are not other dimensions and physical worlds in existence, intangible to our own, as a result of our creator.
 

swampstalker24

Senior Member
How long is a Creation day?

A day is a length of time that varies according to subject matter. For example, it’s common to use the word day to mean an era, an age, a generation, or the life span of a person. The question for this discussion is, “How long is a Creation day?”

Many people are adamant that when Genesis 1:5 says, “and there was evening and there was morning, a first day,” it was a time period of 24 hours. Are they right? Let us see.

Genesis 1:14,15, says of the sun and moon . . . “they must serve as signs and for seasons and for days and years. They will serve as luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shine upon the earth.”

Note the sun and moon were to serve the earth. However, the Bible tells us that God doesn’t need to rest and he’s a spirit person so he doesn’t need light to see. Since God doesn’t have our constraints it’s readily apparent that he doesn’t need to use our units of time. So why would we assume God consigned himself to using our 24 hour days in creation?

The Bible tells us a thousand years is as a day to God. (2 Peter 3:8) (See also Psalms 90:4) So the question arises, why would God create everything in 24 hour time periods? Twenty-four hours is the length of our day, not Gods, and he’s the one doing the creating.

Since we know the word day can mean different lengths of time, the best one can do in determining a creation days length is to consider the creation context and to take into account what other scriptures in the Bible have to say about creation. When you do so you find you still won’t know the length of each creative day, but the evidence indicates creative days were much longer than 24 hours.

THE THIRD DAY
(Genesis 1:11-13) 11And God went on to say: “Let the earth cause grass to shoot forth, vegetation bearing seed, fruit trees yielding fruit according to their kinds, the seed of which is in it, upon the earth.” And it came to be so. 12And the earth began to put forth grass, vegetation bearing seed according to its kind and trees yielding fruit, the seed of which is in it according to its kind. Then God saw that [it was] good. 13And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a third day.

Note that God says, “Let the earth cause grass to shoot forth . . . the seed of which is in it, upon the earth.” It doesn’t say God caused grass to shoot forth. Apparently he only planted the seeds and let the earth produce the vegetation right from the start.

Notice also that in verse 12 the text specifically states that the ". . . Earth began to put forth . . . trees yielding fruit."

Yes, God could have planted full grown vegetation, however he didn’t grow vegetation to maturity himself, he planted seed and let the earth . . . “cause grass to shoot forth.”

Now if you think that this could still all happen in 24 hours, notice that verse 12 shows that the earth began putting forth vegetation. The text specifically states that the “. . . Earth began to put forth . . . trees yielding fruit.” The point here is that fruit-bearing trees require several years growth to produce fruit. The text states that the earth produced these trees.

The text shows that God seeded the earth, and then let the earth do it’s job. Thus the context indicates that the third creative day was longer than 24 hours.

THE FIFTH DAY
(Genesis 1:20-23) 20And God went on to say: Let the waters swarm forth a swarm of living souls and let flying creatures fly over the earth upon the face of the expanse of the heavens.” 21And God proceeded to create the great sea monsters and every living soul that moves about, which the waters swarmed forth according to their kinds, and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good. 22With that God blessed them, saying: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the waters in the sea basins, and let the flying creatures become many in the earth.” 23And there came to be evening and there came to be morning, a fifth day.

Notice that God blessed his creations. The sea creatures were to, ‘fill the sea basins,’ and the birds were to, ‘become many.’ Their doing so would of course take more than 24 hours.

The more interesting question IMO is whether or not animals have souls??
 

NE GA Pappy

Mr. Pappy
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Disagree!

the reason you disagree is because

1) you don't understand Hebrew

or

2) you are intellectually dishonest.

Outside of Genesis 1 and 2,every time, and I do mean each and every time, in the Bible, when the word yom (day) is mentioned with the term evening and morning, it means a literal 24 hour day.

Why would it be different in Genesis 1 and 2?

Answer..... it wouldn't.

Now you may not believe God did it in 6 equal 24 hour days, but that the writer meant for it to be understood that way is absolutely correct.
 
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