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The hypothetical breakdown by shdw633 is dead on. Let's say you limit buck harvest to 4.5-year-old and older. That means, of the hypothetical 5 bucks on your 300 acres, you may have 1 buck on the entire property that is a shooter. If you limit buck harvest to 3.5-year-old and older, then there may be 2 shooter bucks available to the 5 members.

Killing more deer than the land can yield is like burning the furniture to stay warm.
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How many deer do you think that 300 acres sustains?

5 people hunting

This is why numbers are down.
30 years ago the club I was on was 300 acres and we had more than twice that many people on it. Plenty of deer
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How many deer do you think that 300 acres sustains?

5 people hunting

This is why numbers are down.
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5 people hunting 11 deer, lol. And feeding them for the neighbors. I don't know what's wrong with them. Kick em all out.
Most bucks I've ever seen was on a 30 acre funnel between high pressure tracts of land.

Sounds like he's offering a good place for deer to be with his management practices. Your land doesn't have to "hold" a lot of deer, just give them a place to go when the pressure is on by others that don't know how to manage them.
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Most bucks I've ever seen was on a 30 acre funnel between high pressure tracts of land.

Sounds like he's offering a good place for deer to be with his management practices. Your land doesn't have to "hold" a lot of deer, just give them a place to go when the pressure is on by others that don't know how to manage them.
if you arent holding the deer, is feeding high cost protein worth it? would corn be better alternative? in Georgia, in my opinion, for most people the only way to meaningfully increase antler size is through age.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:48 AM
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if you arent holding the deer, is feeding high cost protein worth it? would corn be better alternative? in Georgia, in my opinion, for most people the only way to meaningfully increase antler size is through age.
That was my biggest take away from it all. We had a 30 acre piece of property in Illinois that 9 of us hunted; however, it was a funnel between two pieces of large timber tracts that were surrounded by corn fields so the deer just went back and forth through the funnel. Plenty of deer but the idea of planting food plots or an off season feeding program would only have been a waste of money in my opinion. Perhaps the OP should consider cutting back on the feeding program and let the members handle it on their own, thus reducing the cost upfront for the membership.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:53 AM
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That was my biggest take away from it all. We had a 30 acre piece of property in Illinois that 9 of us hunted; however, it was a funnel between two pieces of large timber tracts that were surrounded by corn fields so the deer just went back and forth through the funnel. Plenty of deer but the idea of planting food plots or an off season feeding program would only have been a waste of money in my opinion. Perhaps the OP should consider cutting back on the feeding program and let the members handle it on their own, thus reducing the cost upfront for the membership.
I believe he stated that the food plot programs were above the cost of the membership. I could be wrong.
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:25 AM
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For instance I have a 300 acre club in jones co. We feed protein and plant what we can.

It cost money to do extra things like plant and feed I guess they dont realize how much. I know its alot of money trust me but y complain about it when you could do something about it??
If I am reading it right, they plant the foodplots and feed as part of the membership
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:33 AM
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I won’t hunt there because ;-/
I think if I killed a big buck someone would talk about how I got it from there stand or they had it pic or they let it go ! Not big enough and all this.
I wouldn’t even place corn or hunt a plot there. I think any mature deer would know it was hunted and avoid during daylite. If it went there during day it would know the stand was empty.
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It works best in large tracts of land. If there are no large tracts, then it's trying to get neighboring tracts on the same page with goals. Otherwise, you are feeding deer for the neighbors with no goals.

Before I would take the time to complain about something I hunted, I would first leave. It's hard to find like-minded people to hunt with, without some turnover.

Sometimes it's easier just to find a place to go hunting.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:57 PM
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There ought to be a law that says you can’t have more than 1 member per 100 acres on hunt clubs.
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:02 PM
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When we consider all 1500 acres around us itís only $3.66 an acre.
When we canít hunt 1200 acres of that land the price goes back to $18.33 an acre on 300 acres. Shdw post is spot on. I would expect to own a copy of the lease if I was said to be an equal paying partner of that lease. If he said no then something ainít right. Hypothetically.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:06 PM
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There ought to be a law that says you canít have more than 1 member per 100 acres on hunt clubs.
Don't say that too loud
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:05 PM
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I wonít hunt there because ;-/
I think if I killed a big buck someone would talk about how I got it from there stand or they had it pic or they let it go ! Not big enough and all this.
I wouldnít even place corn or hunt a plot there. I think any mature deer would know it was hunted and avoid during daylite. If it went there during day it would know the stand was empty.
Sounds like the cry babies in our club, if they just see one, it's there's.
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Old 05-17-2018, 07:39 AM
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There ought to be a law that says you canít have more than 1 member per 100 acres on hunt clubs.
And To think I was going to invite you to hunt my little 5 acre deer magnet.Just never know people.
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:26 AM
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Our lease of 366 acres last year cost $4200 , this year it will probably be a little over $4500. We have 6 members, we divide the cost equally among the 6 members, food plots or supplemental feeding is done by the individual members if they so choose, we see it as the only realistic way to do things, if we tried raising the cost to cover a feeding/food plot program it would make it harder to cover the dues, and would lead to people wondering if the money was really being spent on the program? or if the person running the club was benefiting from the extra money, like maybe covering his dues so he doesn't have to pay ?

We've had our lease a very long time, and while we occasionally have to replace a member, we usually have more people wanting in, than we need. We're very selective. We hunt for the enjoyment of being in the outdoors, and putting meat in the freezer, but not to shoot as many as we can.
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To answer the question posed by the title of this thread, just look at the replies. The question then answers itself...everyone is different. Next case.
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Well good to read everyone's thoughts. But that's all they are and that's all people want to do is Express an opinion and walk away instead of doing anything about it. I know we will find the people to get in it will just take some time. Most likely will the warm weather I'm guessing everyone has got deer season on the back of there mind. But by August they will be blowing up an add of they see one needing a place. Those are not the type of people I want unfortinalty. They usually dont help out and get out after season is over. So yea anyway thanks for the comments.
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You asked for opinions and got them. Some excellent ideas were proposed. It's your lease and only you can decide whether to take any of the advice. But if you gripe at the very people who gave thoughtful responses, you may not get any takers next time.
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You can cut costs by planting perennial clover instead of fall/summer annual plots.
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You can cut costs by cutting down half your trees for a giant Bedding area.
Let the neighbors go crazy with plots and stuff..and you have the Bedroom.
2 Chainsaws , 4 folks splitting the work , 1 week , Your good for 20 years...
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You can cut costs by cutting down half your trees for a giant Bedding area.
Let the neighbors go crazy with plots and stuff..and you have the Bedroom.
2 Chainsaws , 4 folks splitting the work , 1 week , Your good for 20 years...
Plus add to the fact youíll have firewood for the camp, brush for natural blinds, some stumps to sit on and deer hanging to be proud of.
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Cool! Another overpriced overcrowded 300 acre foodplot protien buck ratio management club. Where do I sign up?
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:29 AM
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You can cut costs by cutting down half your trees for a giant Bedding area.
Let the neighbors go crazy with plots and stuff..and you have the Bedroom.
2 Chainsaws , 4 folks splitting the work , 1 week , Your good for 20 years...
^^^ There's a lot of truth in this. ^^^

If your neighbors are "if it's brown it's down" then a 300 acre bedding area with a couple of smaller plots internally will work magic.
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