God is Jesus rather than showing Jesus is God

1gr8bldr

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What role did the Holy Spirit play in his visit that made Jesus Immanuel?
hmmm, the role the HS played, The "HS will come upon you and you will conceive". It looks like the HS is the father instead of the father. :pop: Luke was not trying to build a case for the trinity, he was trying to force Jesus into an incorrect translation of a prophesy of virgin mother.
 
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Artfuldodger

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hmmm, the role the HS played, The "HS will come upon you and you will conceive". It looks like the HS is the father instead of the father. :pop: Luke was not trying to build a case for the trinity, he was trying to force Jesus into an incorrect translation of a prophesy of virgin mother.

Didn't Matthew and Mark do this as well?
 

Artfuldodger

Senior Member
Matthew 1:18
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

Even if Mary wasn't a virgin, she was found to be pregnant before her and Joseph came together.
 

1gr8bldr

Senior Member
Matthew 1:18
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.

Even if Mary wasn't a virgin, she was found to be pregnant before her and Joseph came together.
Mark is a solid gospel, it's Matthew and Luke who got carried away. They tried to make Jesus fit so called prophesy, as if they wanted to help Jesus to succeed. He needed no help, and in doing so, they bordered on effecting credibility of the gospel.
 

marketgunner

Senior Member
Matthew presents Jesus a King.
Mark presents Jesus as Servant
Luke presents Jesus as a Man
John presents Jesus as God

They would not be the same.

Remember Q is speculation and has not been found
 
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