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Old 02-14-2018, 02:22 PM
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I don't think it's there fault, they didn't realize it was all rigged and voting doesn't really matter until very recently.
Nope. We knew it was rigged from the get go. My Intermediate Accounting professors told us the whole low down on Social Security back in 1972. "The System" is the system and it will always be the system. Anybody who thinks they can fight the system from the outside is just the next person to get crushed by the system.

I used to think I could fight it on the outside but I finally woke up. That's why I became a CPA. The last 30 years I been on the inside of the system doing sabotage and gumming up the works every chance I get. Been pretty successful at it and made a little money too. There's 2 or 3 retired IRS revenue officers that never want to hear my name mentioned for the rest of their lives. I consider that the pinnacle of success. The money is just icing on the cake.

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Like I said in post #11. The persecution rests yo honna man!
That whole "We be like the persecuted generation" don't cut no ice sport so buck up and come on down off that cross. We need nailers, not hangers.
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I come from a Dixiecrat background, farmers, pulpwooders, cottonmillers, most of the time all 3 at the same time. High school diplomas were optional, strong backs were required. It was an easy sell to those folks. Call em gullible but don't call em stupid. Savings accounts were the norm, investment meant a new piece of equipment, a fresh bull or a life insurance policy. Stock and Bonds were thought to be imprudent.
These folks had just fought, bled and died to save the the world, twice. Thinking of Uncle Sam as a thief in the night was preposterous.
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I come from a Dixiecrat background, farmers, pulpwooders, cottonmillers, most of the time all 3 at the same time. High school diplomas were optional, strong backs were required. It was an easy sell to those folks. Call em gullible but don't call em stupid. Savings accounts were the norm, investment meant a new piece of equipment, a fresh bull or a life insurance policy. Stock and Bonds were thought to be imprudent.
These folks had just fought, bled and died to save the the world, twice. Thinking of Uncle Sam as a thief in the night was preposterous.
Had some of those a few generations back in my family too. Democrats to the day they died. Should they have known better? When I read much of what the founders wrote and their warnings against overreaching government it’s hard to give any subsequent generation a pass.

And we shouldn’t forget that every step of the way from then to now there have been voices of dissent warning, quite accurately, of the inevitable consequences.
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Had some of those a few generations back in my family too. Democrats to the day they died. Should they have known better? When I read much of what the founders wrote and their warnings against overreaching government it’s hard to give any subsequent generation a pass.

And we shouldn’t forget that every step of the way from then to now there have been voices of dissent warning, quite accurately, of the inevitable consequences.
We each catch a different tune, my people believed in their representatives, trusted them to figure out the complexities of a changing world, I can't fault them. The first source of enlightenment I ever heard was the John Birch Society. The it was Neil Boortz, he failed at talking me out of reading Atlas Shrugged.
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We each catch a different tune, my people believed in their representatives, trusted them to figure out the complexities of a changing world, I can't fault them.
Same here. My grandparents who were all born just before the turn of the 20th century all voted Democrat until the end of WWII. Then they sobered up and started voting Republican. I'm pretty sure my parents were conservatives all their lives because of the Depression and WWII.

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You have paid a Medicare tax all of your working life. They lie when they tell you it's a "premium". The Supreme Court ruled a long time ago it is a tax and as such you have no expectation of any future benefit. Medicare is bankrupt in the equity sense with a future unfunded liability in excess of $50 Trillion depending on who's numbers you use. Suffice it to say the unfunded liability is an amount that can never be funded. So yes Virginia there are going to be Medicare cuts. It's a matter of when, who and how much.

Of course our resident socialists are going to argue all of these points while ignoring the fact Great Britain's socialized medicine system has now officially "run out of other people's money" and is on the verge of bankruptcy. Ours will soon follow.
Not necessarily true for everyone. We have only been paying for Medicare since '65. Fifty three years. So most of the "greatest generation" paid little or no Medicare premiums but have been the greatest beneficiaries to this point.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-paid-what-yo/

So if you bother to read this you will understand that it is not all the boomers fault. At this point they receive the least return on their Social Security/Medicare "contirbutions".
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