Domesticated camels out of place in Bible

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
I am now WAY more interested in the replies...
 

atlashunter

Senior Member
I am now WAY more interested in the replies...

Over forty sniffs and nary a nibble on this one! I guess nobody wants to talk about the camels Abraham didn't have. :huh:
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Over forty sniffs and nary a nibble on this one! I guess nobody wants to talk about the camels Abraham didn't have. :huh:

Mysterious ways my man.
We wouldn't understand it. ("they can tho")
Mis-translation like Yeshua means Joshua and they translate it into Jesus, but all the other Yeshuas stay Joshua...:huh:
 

oldfella1962

Senior Member
maybe Abraham and others had camels when the bible stories took place, then got rid of them, then they came back for the copper mining industry uses. If (big if) the scientists find camel remains dating from much earlier than the period they say they arrived, then the bible stories of camels might be true. But until then, I'll take the scientific evidence.
 

oldfella1962

Senior Member
speaking of camels, here's one reason why the great flood/world flooded would be accepted as real: when the bible was written (or at least when the oral stories that inspired the bible came around) the writers had no idea of how big the world was, or how many millions of species existed. So to them, all the animals they knew about could indeed fit on the ark!

camels, donkeys, foxes, turtles, zebras, goats, bears, lions, quite a few species of birds, etc. A scientifically uninformed person many centuries ago can envision a few dozen species, maybe even a hundred different species. But they would have no concept of kangaroos, penguins, musk oxen, lowland gorillas, armadillos, snow owls, etc.etc.etc. - a virtual unending parade of different species.

Sorry - Noah's ark was one of many versions of a great flood. It probably was based on actual events - people save themselves & animals from flooding today. And humans were indeed around 8,000 or so years ago when there was catastrophic flooding from the most recent ice age ending over much of the world.
 

atlashunter

Senior Member
speaking of camels, here's one reason why the great flood/world flooded would be accepted as real: when the bible was written (or at least when the oral stories that inspired the bible came around) the writers had no idea of how big the world was, or how many millions of species existed. So to them, all the animals they knew about could indeed fit on the ark!

camels, donkeys, foxes, turtles, zebras, goats, bears, lions, quite a few species of birds, etc. A scientifically uninformed person many centuries ago can envision a few dozen species, maybe even a hundred different species. But they would have no concept of kangaroos, penguins, musk oxen, lowland gorillas, armadillos, snow owls, etc.etc.etc. - a virtual unending parade of different species.

Sorry - Noah's ark was one of many versions of a great flood. It probably was based on actual events - people save themselves & animals from flooding today. And humans were indeed around 8,000 or so years ago when there was catastrophic flooding from the most recent ice age ending over much of the world.

The Noah's ark story was one of the first that raised doubts for me as a child.
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
speaking of camels, here's one reason why the great flood/world flooded would be accepted as real: when the bible was written (or at least when the oral stories that inspired the bible came around) the writers had no idea of how big the world was, or how many millions of species existed. So to them, all the animals they knew about could indeed fit on the ark!

camels, donkeys, foxes, turtles, zebras, goats, bears, lions, quite a few species of birds, etc. A scientifically uninformed person many centuries ago can envision a few dozen species, maybe even a hundred different species. But they would have no concept of kangaroos, penguins, musk oxen, lowland gorillas, armadillos, snow owls, etc.etc.etc. - a virtual unending parade of different species.

Sorry - Noah's ark was one of many versions of a great flood. It probably was based on actual events - people save themselves & animals from flooding today. And humans were indeed around 8,000 or so years ago when there was catastrophic flooding from the most recent ice age ending over much of the world.

Not to mention thst the sumerians wrote about a flood 1000 years before the jews did.
Did the world flood twice?
Did the jews borrow stories?
 

j_seph

Senior Member
Rattail hair cuts were around in the 80's then they dissapeared and now some have came back. Do we base they didn't exist in the 80's because some folks they dug up from the late 90's did not have them at all?

How can they say the 1st domesticated camels? Because they found remains of them that is the oldest that they have found?

my measly 2 cents for the day y'all have a blessed one
 

atlashunter

Senior Member
Rattail hair cuts were around in the 80's then they dissapeared and now some have came back. Do we base they didn't exist in the 80's because some folks they dug up from the late 90's did not have them at all?

How can they say the 1st domesticated camels? Because they found remains of them that is the oldest that they have found?

my measly 2 cents for the day y'all have a blessed one

Did you read the article?
 

bullethead

Of the hard cast variety
Rattail hair cuts were around in the 80's then they dissapeared and now some have came back. Do we base they didn't exist in the 80's because some folks they dug up from the late 90's did not have them at all?

How can they say the 1st domesticated camels? Because they found remains of them that is the oldest that they have found?

my measly 2 cents for the day y'all have a blessed one

It isn't your fault but you obviously do not have even a base understanding of archeology or didn't read the article.
 

660griz

Senior Member
Rattail hair cuts were around in the 80's then they dissapeared and now some have came back. Do we base they didn't exist in the 80's because some folks they dug up from the late 90's did not have them at all?

How can they say the 1st domesticated camels? Because they found remains of them that is the oldest that they have found?

my measly 2 cents for the day y'all have a blessed one

You tell em j_seph. Science is wrong.
Just because we don't have talking donkeys today doesn't mean they weren't once talking up a storm.
Stupid science. Go Bible!
:banana:
 

oldfella1962

Senior Member
You tell em j_seph. Science is wrong.
Just because we don't have talking donkeys today doesn't mean they weren't once talking up a storm.
Stupid science. Go Bible!
:banana:

You might be right about talking donkeys - the TV show Mister Ed was about a talking horse, so maybe talking donkeys are not as unusual as we might think.

Speaking of talking critters, didn't the serpent sweet talk Eve into eating the forbidden fruit? God sure fixed his wagon! From that day forward the snake was forced to crawl on his belly & eat dust. Okay, let's examine this: just how did the snake get around in the first place before god cursed him? So we have here a critter who by his very nature crawls on his belly, but his punishment will be crawling on his belly. That's telling him!
 

atlashunter

Senior Member
You might be right about talking donkeys - the TV show Mister Ed was about a talking horse, so maybe talking donkeys are not as unusual as we might think.

Speaking of talking critters, didn't the serpent sweet talk Eve into eating the forbidden fruit? God sure fixed his wagon! From that day forward the snake was forced to crawl on his belly & eat dust. Okay, let's examine this: just how did the snake get around in the first place before god cursed him? So we have here a critter who by his very nature crawls on his belly, but his punishment will be crawling on his belly. That's telling him!

Prolly one of them snakes that would make themselves into a hoop and roll around. And everybody knows snakes eat dust not furry little critters that they can get their mouth around. That's what they get for having an ancestor that tricked Eve.
 

oldfella1962

Senior Member
Prolly one of them snakes that would make themselves into a hoop and roll around. And everybody knows snakes eat dust not furry little critters that they can get their mouth around. That's what they get for having an ancestor that tricked Eve.

Maybe I should buy a "dust eating" snake to help keep my house clean! I hope Petco doesn't think I'm a weirdo. :rolleyes:
 

Nicodemus

The Recluse
Staff member
Prolly one of them snakes that would make themselves into a hoop and roll around. And everybody knows snakes eat dust not furry little critters that they can get their mouth around. That's what they get for having an ancestor that tricked Eve.



We still have these around. :D

The Paleo people killed and ate all the camels that were on the North American continent 10,000 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age. :mad:
 

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atlashunter

Senior Member
We still have these around. :D

The Paleo people killed and ate all the camels that were on the North American continent 10,000 years ago at the end of the last Ice Age. :mad:

Good ol' hoop snake. :D
 
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