NE GA Pappy
Mr. Pappy
Jew's were just one nation (tribe) of Israel.
nope. not even close
Jew's were just one nation (tribe) of Israel.
Hobbs, you once said that the heirs didn't replace Israel but were adopted into it as explained in Romans 11. The tree, the grafting, etc.
Now it sounds like your belief is more in line with the Reformed in that the heirs were never Israel and were always Christians from the beginning. Following that the heirs of the promises were never the genealogical seeds of Abraham.
Have your beliefs changed from that of being grafted into Israel? Do you see it now as national Jerusalem never being heirs to a belief that who God foreknew were only individual believers?
In other words no fulfillment or replacement as it has always been the same from the beginning.
How do you explain the God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew and that Gentiles were without God and excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world?
I would love to see any biblical references that allude to the only jews being from the tribe of Judah. I am not interested in any reference outside the bible that claim that jews are only from Judah.
waiting on the scripture..........
His people He foreknew were the first century Christians from 30-70 ad.
Y'all recall many bifurcations ago when I wondered in this tread with the notion that the USA was going to be viewed as complicit with Israel in their schemes of ethnic cleansing in Palestine?
From News Reports this morning:
CAIRO -- Arab foreign ministers on Sunday demanded that the United States rescind U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, calling it a "grave" development that puts Washington on the same side as "occupation" and the violation of international law.
( It did not take too long!)
Other developments yesterday: Significant protest at US embassy in Lebanon.
I foresee that more embassy protests and worse are eminent! As many will realize that the USA is officially on the side of occupation.
Has God hardened the hearts of the so called occupiers or those who deem themselves dispossessed in this case? Bible verses? Is it possible that God would harden the hearts of Christians today? Scripture?
Hebrews 3:13
13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.
Gordon, I really don't care what the other nations think of the decision to put the embassy in Jerusalem, just as I don't care what other nations think of us electing PDT instead of HRC. Their opinion and a buck will get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds.
What I do care about is being on the side of right. Israel has been kicked about, bullied, stomped on, and treated like a red headed step child for over 70 years now. Most of the countries of the world are against her, and most of the arab nations would nuke the crap out of Israel, even if it meant destroying the Dome of the Rock to get rid of Israel.
There is an intense hatred in the mid east for the jews, and it is only because they are jews. Not that they have done anything to provoke the anger, or deserve the bullying. One of the most telling questions you can ask yourself concerning the conflicts among the mid east neighborhood..... If the Arabs laid down all their arms and declared they would fight no more, what would happen to the arabs? On the other hand, If the Israeli's laid down all their arms and declared they would fight no more, what would happen to Israel?
The answer to those 2 questions will show you where the conflict arises, and who continues to fan the flames of hatred in the middle east.
America has always been on the side of the underdog. When Germany had France in a death grip, America stepped in and sacrificed thousands to liberate France. We did the same as England came under attack from Germany. Twice.
Sure as a nation, we have our issues. We make mistakes and do things that hurt other nations. Just as we do as individuals. My concern for our national leadership is that they stand for right, protect the weak, and comfort the hurting. The exact same things that I try to do in my own life.
I can show commentary and concordance... maybe you can show me scripture that refers to members of the ten northern tribes as a Jew?
Gordon, I really don't care what the other nations think of the decision to put the embassy in Jerusalem, just as I don't care what other nations think of us electing PDT instead of HRC. Their opinion and a buck will get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds.
What I do care about is being on the side of right. Israel has been kicked about, bullied, stomped on, and treated like a red headed step child for over 70 years now. Most of the countries of the world are against her, and most of the arab nations would nuke the crap out of Israel, even if it meant destroying the Dome of the Rock to get rid of Israel.
There is an intense hatred in the mid east for the jews, and it is only because they are jews. Not that they have done anything to provoke the anger, or deserve the bullying. One of the most telling questions you can ask yourself concerning the conflicts among the mid east neighborhood..... If the Arabs laid down all their arms and declared they would fight no more, what would happen to the arabs? On the other hand, If the Israeli's laid down all their arms and declared they would fight no more, what would happen to Israel?
The answer to those 2 questions will show you where the conflict arises, and who continues to fan the flames of hatred in the middle east.
America has always been on the side of the underdog. When Germany had France in a death grip, America stepped in and sacrificed thousands to liberate France. We did the same as England came under attack from Germany. Twice.
Sure as a nation, we have our issues. We make mistakes and do things that hurt other nations. Just as we do as individuals. My concern for our national leadership is that they stand for right, protect the weak, and comfort the hurting. The exact same things that I try to do in my own life.
Romans 2:25-29
25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? 27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
I don't think that means what you think it means. God did in fact set a covenant up with Israel. That covenant is a two way street. It is between God and Israel. They are the two parties involved. He also went on to give the rules for said covenant. If you do this then I will do this, but if you do this then I will do this. there were blessings and cursings according to the set rules. Now on to your scripture you quoted. It simply means God is no respecter of persons. He deals with all regardless of color, creed, male, female, nationality, or any other distinction you can figure out equally at the foot of the cross. There is no distinction as far as that goes, because He freely gives to all who seek Him. Now obviously He has set up boundaries and roles and functions. There are true distinctions.