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You're dividing the word up so bad it doesn't make any sense. It's not chop suey it's the bread of life. Start treating it better, you can't ignore the obvious.


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While some believe that the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error.
Well if it says that Kingdom of God, and the Kingdom of Heaven that many times there was a reason, they are not the same, if so God would have used just one the Kingdom of Heaven or Just The Kingdom of God. The Scriptures I put on here from the Bible speak for them self. A subject of one thing can not be took and put into a subject of something it does not fit with.
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Old 01-04-2018, 06:10 PM
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He does this not because he has a different view of the meaning or content of the kingdom of God; rather, out of sensitivity to his Jewish readers, he makes common use of what is called periphrasis, a certain type of circumlocution to avoid mentioning the sacred name of God. So for Matthew, the doctrine of the kingdom of heaven is the same kingdom that the other writers speak of as the kingdom of God.

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You're dividing the word up so bad it doesn't make any sense. It's not chop suey it's the bread of life. Start treating it better, you can't ignore the obvious.


https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html


While some believe that the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error.
That some believe that they are different they are right ! If they were they same only one would have been mention, God know what he was doing when two were mention If they were the same there would only one be mention. you can not take the subject of something and make it fit where it does not belong so it has to be rightly divided and put where it fits.
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That some believe that they are different they are right ! If they were they same only one would have been mention, God know what he was doing when two were mention If they were the same there would only one be mention. you can not take the subject of something and make it fit where it does not belong so it has to be rightly divided and put where it fits.

Sir.. I have clearly demonstrated your error in thinking there are two kingdoms spoken of.

Matthew and Mark give same parable.. Jesus'words, but Matthew decides to use heaven instead of God because he is ministering a Jewish crowd.

Have you never noticed how a Jew won't spell God... They usually type G_ _ .

It's very very clear.
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Sir.. I have clearly demonstrated your error in thinking there are two kingdoms spoken of.

Matthew and Mark give same parable.. Jesus'words, but Matthew decides to use heaven instead of God because he is ministering a Jewish crowd.

Have you never noticed how a Jew won't spell God... They usually type G_ _ .

It's very very clear.
I give you Scripture, you give me no Scriptures on the subject, and that is very clear. you know people read the Bible and say they believe the Word, but when you give them Scripture they don't believe it, unless it fits their way, not God's ! In your eye's they are one but, in the Word of God they are two The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven are not the same ! ! !
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I give you Scripture, you give me no Scriptures on the subject, and that is very clear. you know people read the Bible and say they believe the Word, but when you give them Scripture they don't believe it, unless it fits their way, not God's ! In your eye's they are one but, in the Word of God they are two The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven are not the same ! ! !
Why is the clearly false doctrine of two kingdoms so important to you? It's so important that when it's proven you still deny... Maybe you should submit to the scriptures and give up on this false doctrine?
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That both Jews and Gentiles will live on Earth forever, many Scriptures proving eternal generations of natural peoples of both Jews and Gentiles. God created all men to live forever on the Earth. The fall of Adam cut off all men from natural life on the Earth forever, but in the final restitution of all things natural men will again live on the Earth as intended by God before the fall. They will be the subjects of the resurrected saints in the eternal kingdom forever.
That there will be eternal generations of natural people on Earth. The Scriptures are so literally clear on this, here is a number of references to read .There will be "perpetual generations" and an everlasting kingdom of Christ over all coming generations forever (Gen. 8:22; 9:12, 16; 17:7, 19; 2 Sam. 7:24-26; Isa. 9:6-7; 59:20, 21; Jer. 31:35, 36; Ezek. 37:24-28; Dan. 2:44; 7:13, 14, 18, 27; Luke 1:32, 33; Zech. 14:1-21; Rev. 1:5; 5:10; 11:15; 22:4, 5).

"a workman that needth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15).
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That both Jews and Gentiles will live on Earth forever, many Scriptures proving eternal generations of natural peoples of both Jews and Gentiles. God created all men to live forever on the Earth. The fall of Adam cut off all men from natural life on the Earth forever, but in the final restitution of all things natural men will again live on the Earth as intended by God before the fall. They will be the subjects of the resurrected saints in the eternal kingdom forever.
That there will be eternal generations of natural people on Earth. The Scriptures are so literally clear on this, here is a number of references to read .There will be "perpetual generations" and an everlasting kingdom of Christ over all coming generations forever (Gen. 8:22; 9:12, 16; 17:7, 19; 2 Sam. 7:24-26; Isa. 9:6-7; 59:20, 21; Jer. 31:35, 36; Ezek. 37:24-28; Dan. 2:44; 7:13, 14, 18, 27; Luke 1:32, 33; Zech. 14:1-21; Rev. 1:5; 5:10; 11:15; 22:4, 5).
"a workman that needth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Tim. 2:15).
So that makes three kingdoms; : the celestial kingdom, the terrestrial kingdom, and the telestial kingdom.

What determines what kingdom we inherit?
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