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Old 02-16-2016, 06:41 PM
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Try the Federal 00 buck with their 'flite control' wad. It gives some amazing patterns with standard chokes. A rear sight helps but test pattern with your gun as is and see if you get pellets on target.
I second this. I advise you pattern a couple of different boxes and see how they do, and then pattern the Federal 3" Vital Shok 00 with flite control was. I think the results will speak for themselves. I would really like for you to take pics of the different rounds and post them just to see how the Federals with flite control wads compare. I don't think you will be sorry.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:28 PM
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Hi everyone, first post here but have hunted with buckshot on and off for 33 years. To the OP, those flight control buckshot really do hold some of the most dense patterns around as stated above. I've found they like cylinder or improved cylinder the best in my 2 twelve gauges.
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Old 02-18-2016, 07:44 PM
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Was a little confused does the blue box federal have the flight control wad noticed the Federal tactical load in #1 buck and OO buck had it. Both of those were reduced recoil ya'll had any experience with either of those?
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Old 02-19-2016, 08:51 AM
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As far as I know all the flight control buck have a small picture of a wad and say flight control on the box. The boxes I have are gold colored and they come in 2 3/4 and 3 inch 00. The short shells come in low or high brass.
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Thanks guys for all your advise haven't been on here in a while but here were my results today got three boxes at academy and this was from 20-25 yards thereabouts.

Remington green box 0 buck 5 out of 12 pellets

Winchester 00 buck
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Old 11-10-2016, 07:11 PM
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Sorry post didn't go through

Remington green box 0 buck 5 out of 12 pellets

Winchester 00 buck 5 out of 9 pellets

Remington grteen box 000 buck 8 out 8 pellets

All boxes were 2 3/4 inch shells
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Old 11-12-2016, 07:52 PM
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My old 870 wingmaster with improved cylinder throws a great pattern with 2 3/4 number 1 buck shot. Killed several deer with it running dogs.
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:19 AM
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What size target were you using for the pattern descriptions?

In other words, 8 out of 8 000B in what size pattern?



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Remington green box 0 buck 5 out of 12 pellets

Winchester 00 buck 5 out of 9 pellets

Remington grteen box 000 buck 8 out 8 pellets

All boxes were 2 3/4 inch shells
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Old 11-13-2016, 04:08 PM
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was a standard paper plate
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Old 11-13-2016, 05:00 PM
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Most paper plates run approximately 9 inches in diameter.

My own standard for initial testing of gun/choke/buckshot load combinations is 100% in 10 inches at 25 yards.

Only buckshot loads that meet that standard are tested further at 40 yards.



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Old 11-20-2016, 08:08 PM
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3" federal 00 buck with flute control is what I shoot stops 200 lb hogs in their tracks it hits hard and patterns great in both my full choke 12 gauge
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:31 PM
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...You need good 40 yard, knock a deer down patterns. Most people have no idea how or why we use buckshot. A lot of folks don't take the time to really wring out a shotgun to see what it's capable of. Some just buy what the can get at wally world and throw it in a gun they've had laying around. When it doesn't kill the deer standing sideways at 30 yards, they publicly state everywhere that buckshot sucks and should be banned. It can cost a lot of time and money to find a good combo, but if you're gonna hunt deer with one it's necessary.
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Old 11-20-2016, 09:38 PM
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3" federal 00 buck with flute control is what I shoot stops 200 lb hogs in their tracks it hits hard and patterns great in both my full choke 12 gauge
When hunting for hogs - especially those in the 200+ range - I prefer using much larger buckshot. As my moniker suggests, I load my 12 bore with 22 gauge pellets* when hunting hogs.
This size buckshot is loaded commercially by Dixie Slugs. Type "Dixie Slugs" or "Dixie TriBall" into your search engine.

*Three .60" hard cast buckshot pellets, 315 grains each.

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Old 11-25-2016, 02:56 PM
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Reviving an old thread here but I just got through patterning my gun.
Wondering if my best pattern is decent. Shooting a 3 x 3 piece of cardboard at 40 steps.
3 inch 00 Rem green shells put 12 out of 15 pellets in it.
3 inch #1 win super X put 20 out of 24 in.
I'm choosing the Rem 00. Good Choice or no?
This is a stoeger m2000 with full choke.
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Old 11-26-2016, 12:56 AM
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firewalker78, you are well ahead of the vast majority of buckshot hunters by taking the time to find out what your Gun/Load/Choke combination can do - before heading to the woods!

Let's see 40 steps, (assuming 30 inch stride), is some 33 yards. Target 36" x 36" with 80% (12 pellets) on target.
What we don't know is the distribution of pellets. If the center of the pattern is sparse, (an indication of over choke for the particular load), then backing off to a modified choke may actually tighten the pattern

From your full choke I would think the spiral pellet stack of a 3", 15 pellet, Federal Premium 00B load. Essentially - stacking the pellets in a slightly offset pattern allowed the large pellets to shift and flow rather than compress against each other when passing through choke constriction.


The 3", 12 pellet, Federal Premium with Flite-Control 00B round essentially builds the "choke" into the wad for tighter patterns from more open chokes. Either of these loads would most likely provide greater on target effect with a center dense pattern.

Of course there are specialty chokes, like new the TruLock Boar Blaster, that may work as well.

Regardless, for deer hunting, at 40 yards, I want to see an average of 5 to 6 00B pellets, (minimum), in the core 10" and consider any pellets outside of 15" as lost to pattern effectiveness.

I hope these thoughts help.

This video shows patterns from a standard full and a "Boar Blaster" with 3" Remington 15 pellet 00B.



This second video shows patterns from an 870 with the "Boar Blaster" using 3" Remington 15 pellet 00B and Federal FliteControl 3" 12 pellet 00B.


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Old 11-26-2016, 12:04 PM
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Reviving an old thread here but I just got through patterning my gun.
Wondering if my best pattern is decent. Shooting a 3 x 3 piece of cardboard at 40 steps.
3 inch 00 Rem green shells put 12 out of 15 pellets in it.
3 inch #1 win super X put 20 out of 24 in.
I'm choosing the Rem 00. Good Choice or no?
This is a stoeger m2000 with full choke.
In that scenario, I would take 20 #1 pellets over 12 #00 pellets all day long, myself.
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Old 11-26-2016, 08:27 PM
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Lot of good info here.
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Old 11-28-2016, 07:43 AM
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The only thing that comes out the end of my barrel is Winchester Double X high velocity, running a Kicks buck kicker choke on a benelli vinci 28" barrel. 60 yards she puts 11 out of 12 pellets in a deer size target, 80 yards she puts 9 out of 12 pellets in a deer size target. Over the last 3 seasons I squeezed the trigger 11 times and 11 deer never took another step, that's anywhere from 10 yards to 75+ yards running and standing still. I have personally seen a lot of guys running the kicks buck kicker setup out of several different guns with the high velocity rounds with the same results. Its a pure death setup that has been tried and true. Just my two cents.
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:21 PM
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The only thing that comes out the end of my barrel is Winchester Double X high velocity, running a Kicks buck kicker choke on a benelli vinci 28" barrel. 60 yards she puts 11 out of 12 pellets in a deer size target, 80 yards she puts 9 out of 12 pellets in a deer size target. Over the last 3 seasons I squeezed the trigger 11 times and 11 deer never took another step, that's anywhere from 10 yards to 75+ yards running and standing still. I have personally seen a lot of guys running the kicks buck kicker setup out of several different guns with the high velocity rounds with the same results. Its a pure death setup that has been tried and true. Just my two cents.
If your gun will shoot it, that's a bad shell. I love my setup, but would love to be able to shoot that shell. Through the factory full, my SBE puts the 3.5" hv shell into about 24" @ 40. I want a tighter pattern than that.

I kinda wish you hadn't posted this. I really don't want to spend $60 on a different tube and $13 for a box of shells. I might though when I run out of the Rem shells mine likes.
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:53 PM
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ishootlittlebucks,

Before you invest in more hardware, try this* load with your factory choke tubes. Fire a pattern or two with your Full, Modified and Imp Cyl choke. Don't be suprised to find the lesser constrictions pattern tighter with the Federal Flitecontrol wad.

*Federal Premium Vital Shok PFC15700, 12 Gauge, 3 in, 12 Pellets w/Flitecontrol Wad, 1325 fps, #00 Copper Plated Lead Buck Shot
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Thanks for the advice, but the only reason I'd change anything is to shoot the Winchester HV 00 load. I've got great patterns with what I use now, but that HV load is a bad joker.
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Just a reminder. Do not link to videos. You must embed all videos.
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Thanks for the advice, but the only reason I'd change anything is to shoot the Winchester HV 00 load. I've got great patterns with what I use now, but that HV load is a bad joker.
A quick comparison of the downrange ballistics of 00B indicates at 50 yards the 125 fps start advantage of a 1450 fps load over a 1325 fps load dwindles down to just 37 fps. That is 971 fps and 934 fps respectively. The faster you start a buckshot pellet the faster it sheds velocity.
A lot of additional recoil for minimal gain.
Something to think about.

The last figure below is the difference in velocity:

MV-- 1325 1450 125
25yd 1066 1122 56
50yd- 934 971 37

Factory load nominal velocities are taken from 30 inch test barrels.

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Originally the green remington 000 buck 2 3/4 patterened best. Going to give it one more round in a week or so and then I'll post results

Remington 2 3/4 000 buck 8 pellets
Remington 3 inch 000 buck 10 pellets
Federal 3 inch 00 buck 12 pellets
Winchester high velocity 3 inch 00 buck 12 pellets

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Old 01-27-2017, 12:33 AM
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned buying a slug barrel.
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