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Old 02-13-2018, 07:46 AM
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So we are planning on adding adding some new plots on our club. We pulled soil samples and are planning on liming soon but have some questions for the guru's. When I spread the lime should I work it in? If I work the soil should I plant something at that time to help protect the soil? I'm new to planting plots and wanna get rolling soon.
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Spread lime when the truck can get in there and not cause too much compaction. Work it in to the top 4" of soil. Subsoil when and if you can.

Always try to have something growing in your food plots year round. At minimum plant some spring oats.
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You can see what might work for you, with a low ph ..... just some other things to consider, to get something green growing.
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:39 AM
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Thanks for the help..I appreciate it! I got 12 soil samples and most were 5.5 to 6.0 and my lowest ph is 4.7 on a loading deck...no wonder the guys before me said they never could get anything to grow there lol. Spring oats sound good...do you think I could get away with planting them in the next few weeks or wait for the ground temps to warm up?
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Thanks for the help..I appreciate it! I got 12 soil samples and most were 5.5 to 6.0 and my lowest ph is 4.7 on a loading deck...no wonder the guys before me said they never could get anything to grow there lol. Spring oats sound good...do you think I could get away with planting them in the next few weeks or wait for the ground temps to warm up?
Oats (any kind) will germinate when the soil temps are above 38 degrees. Some of the coldest days I ever remember, were planting oats in the spring!
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So I'm thinking when I start I should spray the plots with glyposate before hand...then spread the lime and work it in.. after that should I wait a few days and spray again then plant the oats? How would you go about it? My main concern is getting everything right for my fall planting
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Last minute, You are just around the corner from Canuck5 and me.Let me know when you are working and we can meet up
He's just around the corner from us?? Man!!!! We need to organize a get together, one of these days!
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So I'm thinking when I start I should spray the plots with glyposate before hand...then spread the lime and work it in.. after that should I wait a few days and spray again then plant the oats? How would you go about it? My main concern is getting everything right for my fall planting
I'd spread the lime, then get it worked in the soil and plant your oats. Let the weeds grow too, since they will help break up the soil and pull some nutrients up from lower levels. Just don't let the weeds go to seed. Bush hog or spray later on, to control them. Oats will be dead in July and you can work all that organic matter into the soil and start prepping for your fall plots.

Weeds (which I do hate) aren't all bad ....
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Just a side note, but I have had success with alyce clover (not a true clover) in "new" food plots.
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I think he is over by Hugh Olivers house.Ya'll probably killed some of the deer he was hunting also.
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Will do! Y'all are more than welcome to come on by...I'll even fire up the smoker and get the ribs going!
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Yep we're right across the street from Hugh Oliver... There's a few good'uns running around that area lol
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Thanks for the info guys! I appreciate it!!
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By Dennis Creek?
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By Dennis Creek?
We are just east of Poplar Trace on 80...Potters Creek runs through our club
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We're across from the Delta club
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LOL, we have 138 acres across from the Delta Club, on Poplar Trace ..... the Delta club might have had that property 5 or so years ago!
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There are 2 ways to kill the weeds.Either spray, wait a few weeks and spray again..rinse and repeat...... or plow, wait a few weeks and plow again...rinse and repeat as nessesary.
Once I established a perennial clover patch,I bushhog and spray a few times per year and I am done. I do overseed every year with clover and occassionaly wheat.Repeated plowing of food plots are for people that have have more time and money than I do. I would rather hang out with friends,go fishing or hunting than be installing a food plot.
Ideally I'd like to work on establishing some perennial clover. Once I get the lime down in the coming weeks do you think I might be able to start on it this year or would I be better with a mix of annual clovers and grains to start?
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LOL, we have 138 acres across from the Delta Club, on Poplar Trace ..... the Delta club might have had that property 5 or so years ago!
Haha wow so you are right across the street too lol. A reverend from Thomaston used to have this place...he told me he had it for 47 years
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LOL!!! Wow!!!

As far as clovers go, they are best planted in the fall, after your weeds have been taken care of. This time of year, they don't always get their root system established, for the heat (and dry) of the summer, so it's best to save your money for a fall planting.
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I would put something down just so you don't have bare ground right now-not good to leave it bare. I would put my lime down and till it in. I would recommend putting alyce clover down. It can thrive in lower ph soil fine. It is not a true clover and it looks nothing like clover but it grows good and it can help keep weeds down. You can spray clethodim over it for grass killing also once it is established without hurting it. Frost will kill it so make sure we are past that before planting any. It will feed your deer all the way to fall and then I would plant my perineal clover in October with a nurse crop of cereal rye. You can plant it two ways. You could till in the alyce and plant the clover and rye or you can just broadcast your clover and rye and cut the clover down on top of it to form a thatch layer. It is called the throw-n-mow and I love it. It is best to do it right before a good rain for it to work right but it is great for your soil. My best clover plots were done with this method.
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Thanks for all the input guys! I appreciate the information and suggestions and will be spreading lime in the coming weeks and start working to amend my soil for the fall.
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