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Old 12-15-2008, 09:52 PM
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Has anyone heard anything else about Cabela's coming to Georgia??
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They were talking about building one up I-75 in Adairsville a couple years ago. Rumor was that there was a problem with the City and business taxes. Or tax credits in the city. But that was a couple years ago something may of changed since them.
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Not coming - Cabelas said Adairsville was a poor location and they canceled the store. There are not any plans to open a store at any other location in Georgia.
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there is plans to open a cabela's in georgia. i saw something in the Dodge Reports or other construction website about a bid date and requests for proposal to bid on it. i'm having my project coordinator at work look into it for me.
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ther was a rumor of one in Adairsville( i think) but nothin ever came of it...
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Oh junk...why not? Ill have to make a call and get it added to his Sonny-do list
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there are two reports:

one was that a large delegation of Adairsville residents sent letters of protest to Cabelas and their local government that they did not want the store there because of any traffic or growth it might bring.

The other, more probably reason is that Cabelas was asking the Georgia Dept of Revenue to exempt their catalog and internet sales but they would not. So cabelas pulled out.

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The Cabela’s project planned for Adairsville appears dead this morning after the Nebraska-based outdoor retailer told Adairsville officials they would not build the store it had planned on Interstate 75.

“”I don’t know how to react,” said Orlando Wilson, a Northwest Georgia businessman who had been working with Cabela’s to bring the retailer to Georgia.” I’m disappointed. We put a lot of work and effort into the deal.”

Cabela’s announced record revenue Thursday. The company reported that total revenue for the third quarter of fiscal 2007 increased 11.5 percent to $546.8 million compared to $490.5 million for the same period last year.

Third quarter net income was $13.2 million, or $0.20 per diluted share, compared to $15.0 million, or $0.23 per diluted share, for the same period a year ago.

Total revenue for the nine months ended Sept. 29, 2007, increased 13.8 percent to $1.46 billion compared to $1.28 billion for the same period last year, the company reported. Cabela’s had announced in 2005 that it planned to open a 165,000-square-foot retail store at Ga. 140 and I-75 in Adairsville.

But in Thursday’s financial report, Cabela’s said it planned to open seven stores in 2008. In previous statements, it had said it planned to open eight. Asked about the change, Cabela’s said the Adairsville project was off the drawing board, Wilson said.

“They never got a favorable tax ruling from the Georgia Department of Revenue,” he said. Cabela’s had been asking to state to exempt catalog and Internet sales made at an Adairsville store from state sales tax.

Wilson held out some hope for a store sometime in the future.

“I still think if we can get a deal pulled together, they may look again,” he said Friday morning.“There are a lot of disappointed people in Adairsville.”

Alvin Long, chairman of the Gordon County Commission, said he was not surprised Cabela’s decision.

“We have been dealing with this off and on for several years now,” Long said Friday morning.

And where Wilson saw disappointment, Long say an opportunity for Gordon County.

“We have property available in Gordon County and would love the opportunity to talk with Cabela’s if they decide to look at this project again,” he said.

“The fact is that we are located between Atlanta and Chattanooga, we have abundant water recourses, especially in the Belwood Road-Union Grove Road areas,” Long said.“We also have developers in Gordon County who see what is happening and have been working behind the scenes with the Development Authority to make things happen.”

Long said that the decision should not hurt plans to build a new interstate exit on I-75 at Union Grove Road. The project, which has been on Gordon County’s highway wishlist for a number of years, was put on the DOT’s fast track when Cabela’s made its initial announcement.

“That project is tied into the south Calhoun bypass, and I’m sure it will go forward,” Long said.“The former governor, the present governor, and the Georgia DOT have all made it a priority long before we started any talks with Cabela’s.”
That was from November 2007 in the Calhoun Times. The link does not exist anymore. I think the Gordon County plans are also dead due to the same reason.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:47 AM
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Doc - the letter that Cabelas sent said that further marketing analysis determined that the location was unfavorable and that a competitor (Bass Pro) was planning to build another store between Atlanta and Chattanooga (near Acworth) to cut Cabelas off from the Atlanta business. Reports of tax issues keep surfacing but that is what the rejection letter from Cabelas said.

I have no idea why they cared about pulling from Chattanooga anyway. Cobb County is the 4th largest county in Metro Atlanta and has more people than Metro Chattanooga. Seems that Acworth would have been a much better location to build the store in the first place. Seems that Cabelas marketing research concluded what anyone that could see a map would determine inside of 30 seconds.
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I have no idea why they cared about pulling from Chattanooga anyway. Cobb County is the 4th largest county in Metro Atlanta and has more people than Metro Chattanooga. Seems that Acworth would have been a much better location to build the store in the first place. Seems that Cabelas marketing research concluded what anyone that could see a map would determine inside of 30 seconds.
Cobb County is 20 minutes from Adairsville (or closer)...Bass Pro is 40 minutes or more from Cobb county...Adairsville is 30-40 minutes from Chattanooga...I can see why they were thinking about adairsville, they would have gotten Chattanooga, NW GA and NW metro Atlanta. Most everyone I know would rather go to Cabelas than BP...I know the only reason I get things from BP any more is b/c I get several BP gift cards throughout the year....but I never go to the store, do it all online...if Cabelas had come to Adairsville, I would probalby never order over the net again (not for hunting gear any way).

I live about15 minutes from where the were going to build Cabelas. Everything I heard pointed back to the taxes as the reason they didn't build....now with all the layoffs it sure would have been nice if the store would have opened. At least that would have been a few more jobs for that area.
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very true. Cobb County certainly has a ton of people, and if nothing else, metro atlanta has enough people to keep the revenue rolling in for a store like Cabelas.

I mean, do you think they realize how annoyed sportsmen are with Bass Pro Shops on the whole? That place would rather sell Martin Truex t-shirts and chocolate covered pecans than reloading equipment.
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Cobb County is 20 minutes from Adairsville (or closer)...Bass Pro is 40 minutes or more from Cobb county...Adairsville is 30-40 minutes from Chattanooga...I can see why they were thinking about adairsville, they would have gotten Chattanooga, NW GA and NW metro Atlanta. Most everyone I know would rather go to Cabelas than BP...I know the only reason I get things from BP any more is b/c I get several BP gift cards throughout the year....but I never go to the store, do it all online...if Cabelas had come to Adairsville, I would probalby never order over the net again (not for hunting gear any way).

I live about15 minutes from where the were going to build Cabelas. Everything I heard pointed back to the taxes as the reason they didn't build....now with all the layoffs it sure would have been nice if the store would have opened. At least that would have been a few more jobs for that area.
Except Cabeals didn't say anything about taxes they said they rejected the location. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Do you guys think they made up a story about the location because they were afraid to say it was over taxes? I don't.

FWIW - Metro Atlanta has over 5m people. The numbers simply don't make any sense to have picked Adairsville, they could have caught a lot more business putting it somewhere in Metro Atlanta. When the economy picks back up, maybe they'll consider a Georgia site again - but I doubt it will be as far out in the sticks. According to Mapquest, Adairsville is 44 miles from Marietta and 62 miles from Atlanta.

Here is the their criteria, Adairsville falls short on the population by a longshot. Acworth would have been perfect.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...left*potential
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Except Cabeals didn't say anything about taxes they said they rejected the location. Why is that so hard for people to understand? Do you guys think they made up a story about the location because they were afraid to say it was over taxes? I don't.

FWIW - Metro Atlanta has over 5m people. The numbers simply don't make any sense to have picked Adairsville, they could have caught a lot more business putting it somewhere in Metro Atlanta. When the economy picks back up, maybe they'll consider a Georgia site again - but I doubt it will be as far out in the sticks. According to Mapquest, Adairsville is 44 miles from Marietta and 62 miles from Atlanta.

Here is the their criteria, Adairsville falls short on the population by a longshot. Acworth would have been perfect.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...left*potential
guess they changed their criteria from 2 years ago when it was announce on their site that they were opening a store in Adairsville GA. It still listed on their site for a while after the deal fell through.

Think they might not have given the entire reason in their rejection letter so as to have some bargaining power if they do decide to open a location in GA?
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:21 PM
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Oh junk...why not? Ill have to make a call and get it added to his Sonny-do list

I know for a fact that Sonny is friends with John L the owner of BPS. He will not sign off for a tax break to get cabelas in GA. Keep in mind BPS now has 3 stores open plus one scheduled to open.
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I know for a fact that Sonny is friends with John L the owner of BPS. He will not sign off for a tax break to get cabelas in GA. Keep in mind BPS now has 3 stores open plus one scheduled to open.


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augusta is the one i assume he is talking about but they said a few weeks ago that they were suspending that store and all new stores due to the economy
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The whole nation eventually travels I-75 right through GA at some point in time. Thats the reason Cabelas was looking at Adairsville, keeping in mind that although they say the Northern Arc is dead, any revitalization of it would bring traffic interchange about 5 miles south of the proposed Cabelas location. Isn't that why BP builds its store on the main drags as well? Taxes was the primary issue coming for a very close source in the land deal and the construction portion of the Cabelas in Adairsville. They will not talk about taxes to keep from spoiling future deals with the Next Gov.

Sonny is vested in BP, when all else fails...... Follow the Money. Cabelas will kill BP no matter where they put a store. Cabelas is a DESTINATION. Not Walmart. We miss it not happening here! Thanks Sonny!
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I heard at one time they were looking at Mcdonough, but I guess that would be to close to BPS in Macon. I agree Cabela's would shut down a BPS. Guess I will have to keep ordering.
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Old 12-16-2008, 05:56 PM
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I don't think Cabelas would shut down a BPS. BPS's fishing selection in their stores is far better than Cabelas, but the hunting / clothing supplies at Cabelas are much better. After going to the Cabelas in Chicago, I was really bummed when I knew ours wasn't coming.
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I aint got but an acre but if they want, Cabelas can build on it in my back yard. I figure it'll save me a lot on gas when they finally do come to Ga. Ya know.... just walk out the back door!
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I don't have a dog in this hunt but all the Cabelas I have been to have been out in the sticks to begin with?? So I wasn't surprised with the Adairsville location for that reason but I believe that if people would want to come to cabelas from Nooga they wouldn't let 44 miles stop them from coming to North Atlanta (Acworth)

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Some are some aren't. Most of their larger stores are more urban but some of them are in very small areas - but then again they are much smaller. Some of their stores are about 50k square feet. This one was planned to be a very big store (~165k square feet) and supposedly like the one near Chicago which was in an urban area.
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I've been to two, Kansas City, which is a pretty big one, and Mitchell, SD, which is pretty small. KC was awesome... it was the best sporting goods store I've ever been to. They had more trophy mounts than anyplace I've ever seen: an Africa area, a mule deer museum with over 150 full body muley mounts, gigantic blue marlin, and a huge mountain right in the middle with everything you could think of... from beavers to muskox. I went 3 days in a row.

SD was good, but it wasn't anywhere near the destination that KC was. I'm sure they would have made the Atlanta Cabelas a serious destination. Something you could spend 5 hours in.
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I've been to two, Kansas City, which is a pretty big one, and Mitchell, SD, which is pretty small. KC was awesome... it was the best sporting goods store I've ever been to. They had more trophy mounts than anyplace I've ever seen: an Africa area, a mule deer museum with over 150 full body muley mounts, gigantic blue marlin, and a huge mountain right in the middle with everything you could think of... from beavers to muskox. I went 3 days in a row.

SD was good, but it wasn't anywhere near the destination that KC was. I'm sure they would have made the Atlanta Cabelas a serious destination. Something you could spend 5 hours in.
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I've been to two, Kansas City, which is a pretty big one, and Mitchell, SD, which is pretty small. KC was awesome... it was the best sporting goods store I've ever been to. They had more trophy mounts than anyplace I've ever seen: an Africa area, a mule deer museum with over 150 full body muley mounts, gigantic blue marlin, and a huge mountain right in the middle with everything you could think of... from beavers to muskox. I went 3 days in a row.

SD was good, but it wasn't anywhere near the destination that KC was. I'm sure they would have made the Atlanta Cabelas a serious destination. Something you could spend 5 hours in.
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I got a Cabelas "store" that I visit routinely. It is in the magazine rack in my bathroom.

With the economy being like it is I guess that one will have to do for now.
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I've been to two, Kansas City, which is a pretty big one, and Mitchell, SD, which is pretty small. KC was awesome... it was the best sporting goods store I've ever been to. They had more trophy mounts than anyplace I've ever seen: an Africa area, a mule deer museum with over 150 full body muley mounts, gigantic blue marlin, and a huge mountain right in the middle with everything you could think of... from beavers to muskox. I went 3 days in a row.

SD was good, but it wasn't anywhere near the destination that KC was. I'm sure they would have made the Atlanta Cabelas a serious destination. Something you could spend 5 hours in.
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I am glad to hear some other people are unsatisfied with BPS. In my opinion Cabelas is a much better store. I have visited one in kansas and one in Sidney, Nebraska several times and loved it.
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I agree with Doc. I have been to the one in Kansas City, and awesome is an under statement.
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I have been to each of the Cabelas Store locations for Grand Opening events since the Dundee, MI store. It was sad to see the Adairsville location not open. I know they are looking more in the Southeast because of the success the Lousianna location.

Keep our fingers crossed for a GA store opening.
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I have been to the Cabela's in Gonzalez, LA. It is very nice and big. I could have spent two whole days there.

I was a little perplexed about the location in Gonzalez but it is a bedroom community of Baton Rouge and has a fantastic school system and a very strong, capable, no-nonsense law enforcement system that has drawn folks to the area from New Orleans and Baton Rouge, according to a local motel owner I spoke with. It is across the road from a destination outlet mall and right off I-10.

I wish they'd build one in Florida. 'Course I really can't complain. I have a very decent Gander Mountain 15 minutes away. I much prefer GM to BPS.
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I've heard talk from more than one source about Cabelas looking at putting a store in Cordele on the Albany exit(Hwy 300). Obviously Cordele itself couldn't support it, so I guess the idea would be a centralized location between Albany, Valdosta, and Macon along with the heavy I-75 traffic.
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Man I would love one at Cordele. That is only a hour of so from me, That would be Awesome.
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i heard they bought some land on hwy 96 between ftvalley and warner robins
They were talking with a developer about buying land on the new frontage road under construction between Russell pkwy exit and exit 146.But thats what "a guy" who works for the developer said.And we know how that goes...
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:52 AM
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I've been told that one is to be built in Nashville-Belview. I hope for that.
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I think Acworth would be ideal.
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Old 12-23-2008, 04:03 PM
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Gander Mountain is supposed to build 3 stores in GA 2009 - 2010.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:04 PM
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I'm with DOC, Cabela's in Kansas City sets the standard. I've been pretty disappointed with Bass pro, and I'd drive anywhere in GA to visit Cabela's. As for Gander Mountain; I'd rather shop at BPS.
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Old 12-23-2008, 05:32 PM
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very true. Cobb County certainly has a ton of people, and if nothing else, metro atlanta has enough people to keep the revenue rolling in for a store like Cabelas.

I mean, do you think they realize how annoyed sportsmen are with Bass Pro Shops on the whole? That place would rather sell Martin Truex t-shirts and chocolate covered pecans than reloading equipment.
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Old 12-23-2008, 07:48 PM
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I mean, do you think they realize how annoyed sportsmen are with Bass Pro Shops on the whole? That place would rather sell Martin Truex t-shirts and chocolate covered pecans than reloading equipment.[/QUOTEI AGREE WENT TO SAVANAH BASS PRO THE OTHER DAY THEY DID NOT CARRY ANY FISH FEEDERS. SAID THEY USED TO HAVE SOME.
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