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Old 01-05-2009, 09:52 PM
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what is the best paint for guns if you remove the blueing and are just going to paint it?
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I'm thinking about the same thing but I do not thing you should remove the blueing. Degrease it and paint it. I know some people think this is a bubba process but a rifle is a tool. You can spend a couple of hundred on Duracoat (an excellent process) but what do you do when it needs touch-up, re-coat it. WalMart sells Krylon gun camo paint $4.50 a can. I've heard our sniper forces simply krylon them.
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the reason I asked was because I recieved a gun that someone tried to remove the blueing and messed up the blueing
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I would just degrease it and paint it.
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Don't do it. just re blue it with a Hoppes gun blue kit.easy to use and you won't you wont be sorry.I've spent hours on several occasions de bubbaizing painted rifles. Synthetic stocks OK, metal never.
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Gun are tools. Nothing more. Degrease it and paint it.





Paint the high-end optics too. They are also tools.





Here are a few of my "bubba" tools:


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Gun are tools. Nothing more. Degrease it and paint it.





Paint the high-end optics too. They are also tools.





Here are a few of my "bubba" tools:


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Book hound I like your style. Have you tried the textured krylon paint yet? It is the stuff!!!!
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There you go, spilltheblood...it's a tool. Degrease it and paint it to please you....it's your gun.
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Nope. I've only used what I posted in the last pic.

Also, you can remove the Krylon with some more break cleaner and scrubbing. However, you can also coat it with Krylon flat (no gloss) clear coat to make even more durable. I beat on my guns pretty hard though and the normal Krylon stays great. The key is to degrease well with break cleaner before painting!!!

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nice job i like them guns looks like your ready i will just be running around with my 22
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You can spend a couple of hundred on Duracoat (an excellent process) but what do you do when it needs touch-up, re-coat it.
You can if you send it off and have it done. Or you can do it yourself for about $20/weapon.

Here are several I've done-

A 1911 build


Smith 36-


A quick job on a Smith Model 10-
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I used some teflon paint from Brownells a few years ago. It was a bake on finish, and I was very pleased with it.
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if you want your krylon finish to last longer then try the Clear duracoat on top . It's a semi gloss and can be toned down even more with 0000 steel wool


we've done that with some success and in total it's cheaper that way than buying 4-5 different dura-coat finishes

dura coat is very easy to apply yourself with a cheap HF air brush..
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Gun are tools. Nothing more. Degrease it and paint it.

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I just........ can't........ do...... it........... (to mine )
Bring it up here. I'll paint it for you.


Tell ya what, paint one of yours and I'll paint one of mine neon green, orange and pink.
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+1 for krylon. Carb cleaner stripps it off in no time so you can change up the pattern/colors. Search for "painting gun" and you will see several threads of what others have done.

I have painted several bolt guns and an AR-15. It is hard the first time, especailly on high dollar firearms. I am still trying to build the courage to paint the FN PBR and optics. It took me a week to get the nerve to paint the AR.
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This is weird!!! I just got finished painting my grips on my ugly black Glock 20 w/ Krylon!!! I will post a pic in a second!

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1) paint is not a very durable finish.
2) paint smells like paint.
3) most paint doesn't like heat.
4) most moving parts on firearms don't like paint.
5) paint will in all likelihood devalue your firearm.
6) bluing is easy and rewarding (may also devalue your firearm but not like paint)

I wish I had before and after pics of a couple I bought really cheap that were painted. Don't get me wrong paint can be used properly on synthetic stocks etc. But there are much better finishes available for metal.
It's yours do what you will but fixing a boogered up blue job is very easy.
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2) paint smells like paint.
All my deer rifles including my AR-15 were painted with krylon. Never had the first deer spooked. The smell goes away pretty quick after painting.
3) most paint doesn't like heat.
I have ran hundreds of rounds out of an AR to the point the barrel was way to hot to touch and the only adverse effect on the paint was it turning to a different shade.
4) most moving parts on firearms don't like paint.
Simple, put a little blue painters tape over the bolt and any other parts that move also stop up the end of the barrel so you don't get paint down the tube.
5) paint will in all likelihood devalue your firearm.
Krylon is easily removed without a trace left with brake cleaner, carb cleaner, or goof off
6) bluing is easy and rewarding (may also devalue your firearm but not like paint)
Painting is rewarding too. It gives you the ability to be creative. If you mess up, you can easily strip it down and start again. Plus a coat of paint keeps your rifle from rusting and helps protect the finish from getting scratched.



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I've been using KG Gunkote for a couple years. Makes for a good looking finish but it's kinda complicated as you have to blast the metal and then bake the finish. Tough as nails though...

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2) paint smells like paint.
All my deer rifles including my AR-15 were painted with krylon. Never had the first deer spooked. The smell goes away pretty quick after painting.
3) most paint doesn't like heat.
I have ran hundreds of rounds out of an AR to the point the barrel was way to hot to touch and the only adverse effect on the paint was it turning to a different shade.
4) most moving parts on firearms don't like paint.
Simple, put a little blue painters tape over the bolt and any other parts that move also stop up the end of the barrel so you don't get paint down the tube.
5) paint will in all likelihood devalue your firearm.
Krylon is easily removed without a trace left with brake cleaner, carb cleaner, or goof off
6) bluing is easy and rewarding (may also devalue your firearm but not like paint)
Painting is rewarding too. It gives you the ability to be creative. If you mess up, you can easily strip it down and start again. Plus a coat of paint keeps your rifle from rusting and helps protect the finish from getting scratched.



I want to do my Rem 715 bolt like the one on the bottom pic there. I pm'd for some advice.
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1) paint is not a very durable finish.
Define durable. I beat the heck out of my painted weapons. Will the Krylon I use show some wear? YES! Then again so does the Ed Brown 1911 I carry every day. It is a tool. A little wear won't hurt anything and the paint is easily touched up for the people more worried about appearance. The paint (yes, even Krylon) does help protect the base firearm.
2) paint smells like paint.
Um, I'm guessing you've never painted a firearm with Krylon, Duracoat, etc.??
3) most paint doesn't like heat.
That is actually why I don't paint the suppressors on my machine guns. I'd be re-painting them twice a month. But the guns themselves do just great! Barrels can also burn off paint under hard use. Even so, the paint has not burned off my bolt-action that I actually put a LOT of rounds through or the three painted machine guns I frequently use. I've gotten those guns so hot you couldn't touch the forend and the paint is still there. So, yeah heat might hurt some paint but it does take a lot. If so - touch it up!
4) most moving parts on firearms don't like paint.
??? Like what? I don't paint the bolts of my ARs. I did paint the exposed part of the closed bolt on my Rem 700 and it causes NO problems. What other moving parts are a worry?
5) paint will in all likelihood devalue your firearm.
That is pure opinion. It depends on the quality of the paint job to me.
6) bluing is easy and rewarding (may also devalue your firearm but not like paint)
Again, your opinion. It depends on the quality of the bluing job. I've seen a LOT of botched home jobs. I'd take a quality paint job over some low quality bluing.

I wish I had before and after pics of a couple I bought really cheap that were painted. Don't get me wrong paint can be used properly on synthetic stocks etc. But there are much better finishes available for metal.
It's yours do what you will but fixing a boogered up blue job is very easy.
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You can if you send it off and have it done. Or you can do it yourself for about $20/weapon.
How about a "how to" thread so those of us that are interested kind of know whats involved.
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