Predator Hunting and Trapping All questions and answers for the newbie to the veteran

[j_seph]

Use this thread to offer up tips to help out those folks just getting into Predator hunting and trapping. For all you veterans of the sport, post up some of your tricks of the trade.
Post em up!

[hunter #1]

Yeah come on I want to know

[FishinMech]

This will be for new and seasoned hunters to the sport, I love to hunt predators. And when I started hunting them I wish someone would of helped me. So here are some websites for everyone. If you find one that in informational post it on here..

http://www.predatortalkcast.com/Home.html, This is a radio talk cast. This guy talks to all the big time varmint hunters. Click the link and chose a recorded talk cast that you want to know more on.

http://www.varmintal.com/ahunt.htm, This guy is a master at calling in the predator world. His website shows you everything from how to build a homemade e-caller and he provides the sounds free for you to download. Lots of other info on the sport also.

Here are some sites for e-calls.
http://www.alphawolfgamecalls.com/ Local Guy out of Cartersville Ga.
http://www.gofoxpro.com/index.php
There are many others I will add as I locate more.

A couple more.
http://www.allpredatorcalls.com/
http://www.allpredatorhunting.com/

Thanks for looking FishinMarine09.

[FishinMech]

Here is another one. Still under constriction. Raw Dog is the man to thank for this one.

www.georgiapha.com

Here is another one.
https://www.coyotecraze.com/Home.php
http://www.predatormastersforums.com/
http://www.critrcall.com/
http://www.predatorxtreme.com/default.aspx

Here is the amp for the homemade e-call
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search
And the speaker.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2104031

Soon as I find more ill post them up.

[FishinMech]

Ok more.
http://predatorhuntingtips.com/
http://www.easterncoyotes.com/index....id=5&Itemid=22
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/o...or-hunting.htm
http://lewand.tripod.com/barkatthemo...eclub/id4.html
http://www.freecoyotehuntingguide.com/

Ok i'll stop for the night.

[j_seph]

Also don't forget to join
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...d=227414617956

[awr72]

awesome links thanks guys,i have built the el cheapo and it works great but i have a portable cd player instead of mp3 but works good have not hunted/killed one yet but we have almost everything together now.i think coyote calling will def add to my year round huntin fun.any ideas on where to get a cheap camo bag to house the call?

[j_seph]

Originally Posted by awr72

awesome links thanks guys,i have built the el cheapo and it works great but i have a portable cd player instead of mp3 but works good have not hunted/killed one yet but we have almost everything together now.i think coyote calling will def add to my year round huntin fun.any ideas on where to get a cheap camo bag to house the call?

I have a camo backpack for mine, just so happens it's fuzzy, tan looking on the inside so I just fold the sides down.

I have an old cell phone and an Iphone. I downloaded the sounds from varmint als site and the program to make your own sequence of calls. Download the calls to the iphone, took the sim out of my iphone and put it in my old phone in case I need a phone. Then I can leave the Iphone in the bag with the vamint al homemade call and place it where I want and turn the Iphone/Ipod on.

All of this stopped today cause I went and done IT. Bought a foxpro

[famlytraprz]

Depending on what animal you are targeting, the trap size and holding power is important. The best all around trap on the market is the MB 550 from the Minn. Trap Co, for fox, coyote and bobcat. I prefer the 2-coiled because I sell to the live market and there is very little foot damage. Baits are by preference but any tainted meat will work. Some commercial baits are great but very expensive. I use homemade baits and commercial stuff. My favorite commercial bait is Black Magic by Jerry Lee and homemade bait is very tainted deer, beaver castor, mink glands, all swirled together. If you are a beginner, I suggest going to Trapperman.com to learn the basic sets and knowledge. If you can find an experienced trapper willing to mentor you, take them up on it. Any other questions, let me know.

[JohnK]

Originally Posted by j_seph

All of this stopped today cause I went and done IT. Bought a foxpro

Which one and where. I hope you are gonna give us a review after you try it.

[jpf]

do you sell your pelts? how much $ per?

[j_seph]

Originally Posted by JohnK

Which one and where. I hope you are gonna give us a review after you try it.

I bought the spitfire for $199. By far you get what you pay for. If you want tremendous volume it's going to cost you well over $199. I did notice last night that the clearer your line of sight to the call the better the remote works. We had yotes answer but never a show. The call seems real quiet sitting beside you but has plenty of volume for calling with around N. GA. The yotes we had answer last night our last stand were approx. 1/2 mile away.
Below are some phots from a guy in KY that called em in with the spitfire

[FishinMech]

Thanks for that one j seph. We are up to 84 members now lets get 100 by the end of feb.

[FishinMech]

Bags
http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=367923

These are my favorite. http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=604926

http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=558368

http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=561506

http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=350962

http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=321495

Just a few hope you like them.

[awr72]

thanks

[FishinMech]

Shooting Rest,
http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/sear...earch&k=bipods

Homemade Shooting sticks.
2 wooden dowel rods i prefer 1/2"x2.5 foot. A piece of garden hose 6 to 8" a piece of clear rubber tube about 1.5 to 2" and 2 bottoms for a walking cane. Sorry about the drawing. I hope you get the just. If you have any other questions PM me.

Thanks Randy.

[FishinMech]

Starter for traping.
Traps, trap chain, trap tags, stakes, hammer, attractants or bait, trowel, trap dye, trap wax, soil sifter, trapping gloves, trap covers, trap basket or a bucket and a trapping license should just about get you started. Educational material is available online or on videos available online.22 rimfire, choke pole, skinning knife, fleshing knife, fleshing beam, various size stretchers, hip boots and or waders and a place to work when your skinning, a freezer will be a must if you plan to sell wet goods and a good alarm clock.

Stole from Coastie's Thanks I thought it needed to be here.

[FishinMech]

.22 rimfires, or smaller, air rifles, and muzzle-loading firearms for bobcat and fox.

Coyotes- Any caliber you wish to use. No limit.

Seasons- Hunting
Fox and bobcat - Dec. 1 to Feb. 28.
Racoon- Northern 1 per day and Southern zone 3 per day Oct. 15 - Feb. 28

Trapping-
Mink, Otter, Fox, Opossum, Muskrat, Skunk, Bobcat, and Weasel.
Dates Dec. 1 - Feb 28 No Limit.

Hog- Year around, no limit, Any caliber.

Hope i covered it all.

[molly]

Useing a decoy relly makes a difference in getting a shot...and placement plays a big part of it. What if you want to put a decoy in a certain area of your set-up spot and don`t have a bush or something to hang it from. Attached is a picture of a turkey decoy with a rod stuck in the ground holding the it up....with very little wind the decoy will move...you can also hang a bird or a fur-ball that moves useing the same .

[FishinMech]

Originally Posted by molly

Useing a decoy relly makes a difference in getting a shot...and placement plays a big part of it. What if you want to put a decoy in a certain area of your set-up spot and don`t have a bush or something to hang it from. Attached is a picture of a turkey decoy with a rod stuck in the ground holding the it up....with very little wind the decoy will move...you can also hang a bird or a fur-ball that moves useing the same .

A sock also works. With some fishing line attached to it. Anything will work as long as it moves.

[j_seph]

Stumbled onto another one
http://www.coyotegods.com/

[jgyfarms]

what call sequences work best in the east? how long, how loud, which sounds, etc. which works best, fields, open woods, clearcuts, thinned timber etc. favorite scents, decoys? Thanks, guys. I'm learning in case you can't tell.

[j_seph]

Just sat in the fork of a tree in the front yard while I sat in the house and within 5 minutes I had at least 30 crows called in, ahhh the possibilities

[JohnK]

Those are beautiful animals, I figure at least 2 different ones. I thought they were all supposed to be mangy looking?

[j_seph]

Not mine but from Varmint Al

The Hammock Decoy
Hi Al,
My wife Valinda came up with the ideal to use a Weasel Ball toy for a decoy. I bought one for about $7.00 at a local toy store. The problem with it was on un-level ground it didn't roll well and you couldn't see it over the brush. So when I got home I went to work on it. I unscrewed the cap off the ball to access the motor this is what I came up with.

1.) Disconnect the tail/Weasel from the ball unscrew ball halves (discard top half of the ball keeping motor half). Motor turns/spins inside ball half.
2.) Take the three screws out of the weight retaining cover on the electric motor and remove the weights (a little pressure with screw driver helps achieve this). This gives the motor more speed yet still allows it to wobble when finished.
3.) Drill tiny hole 1/16 into side of weight retaining cover then screw back to motor.
4.) Drill 1/16 - 1/8 hole in bottom of ball half and glue in a 1/16 - 1/8 steel rod approx 1 - 2 foot long also take a hammer and flatten out about 4 inches of end of rod that goes into the ground to keep rod from spinning (the ball wants to spin the rod so by flattening what's stuck in the ground it keeps the rod from spinning so motor is all that spins) Rod and ball half doesn't spin only motor.
5.) Spray paint the assembly dull gray.
6.) Reinsert tail/Weasel into hole on motor weight cover.
7.) Push steel rod into ground and turn on, it spins the tail and wobbles as well.

Total cost around $10.00 and gives motion as well and uses 1 AA battery.
Ricky Hammock
Adairsville GA

[DB87]

I have a question, and I'm sure it has been asked a million times , but If you're starting with nothing and just wanting to cut down the number of coyotes on the property, how would you go about hunting coyotes? (Like do I put out bait? If so, what? do I wear cover scent? When to go, etc.. I'm pretty clueless about it them other than just having them wonder upon me while im in a stand during deer season.

[j_seph]

Originally Posted by DB87

I have a question, and I'm sure it has been asked a million times , but If you're starting with nothing and just wanting to cut down the number of coyotes on the property, how would you go about hunting coyotes? (Like do I put out bait? If so, what? do I wear cover scent? When to go, etc.. I'm pretty clueless about it them other than just having them wonder upon me while im in a stand during deer season.

Bad as I hate to say it, if you really want to cut the population down then get a trapper.
I've never tried it with bait out, just seems to take away from the game IMO. I would suggest cover scent and play the wind. I have just gotten started and have had more success around 8-9 pm. We have yet to see them cause of (wind and human scent) We had em tore up saturday night at 9:30 had one challanging us, circled us, came within 30 yds but would not come out of the pines. As cmghunter on here said, you can really educate more animals at night but it sho is exciting. go to www.predatormasters.com sign up and join their forums.

[Lighterknott]

Here is another message board with a lot of dedicated predator hunters. A lot of them live and hunt in the east so you get better ideas and tactics for the terrain we hunt in:

http://forum.finsandfur.net/