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They look awesome, GTBHuntin's dad bought one at the show. Gina Brunson shoots one to gain the extra 3"'s in draw length. They look to be very well made.
Cool, I have a 27" draw and always wished I could shoot a longer draw length.

Wish I could try one to see how I liked it.

I cant imagine my destroyer 350 with a 29" draw.....WOW
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But how can it not change your anchor point??? Or your form
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I know all these bows are a personal preference but I have talked to a lot of folks that have shot the obsession. I have been told that there ain't nothing special about them. I was told that they didn't shoot nowhere near as good as the top name bows. I personally won't buy one but I have heard a lot of back and forth talk about them. I will stick with what I got. I'm not bad mouthing them by any means. its all a personal preference.

A few of the top names on AT are now dealers for Obsession Archery so there must be something attractive about them besides the look....

Personally I cant wait to get my hands on one to shoot!
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Alright guys. I shot a lethal force this morning. They are probably great bows but all I will say is they shot nothing like what I got. I hope all you guys that have a obsession has great luck with them. I will stay with the z7 and d350
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:52 AM
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Alright guys. I shot a lethal force this morning. They are probably great bows but all I will say is they shot nothing like what I got. I hope all you guys that have a obsession has great luck with them. I will stay with the z7 and d350
Stevens archery is the only one in GA that has one. Is that where you shot it?
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OK bdillard you are 100% wrong why you would make this up I can only imagine no one has one but me I
am the manufacturer . Jealous I would guess nice try tell us where and who with contact info or remove post this is out right wrong.
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Just FYI, I spoke to several of my dealers after the show. The common theme was that the Obsession was the best bow they shot. I work for a competitor, I hate to hear it, but the truth is the truth.
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I have no Idea, obviously the bows are not to everyones liking but thats to be expected with any bow company. I dont get It? Why lie about It before you even get the chance to shoot one?

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http://www.squareuparchery.com/ This was the most impressive new product that I liked. It's not like the hindsight. It can only help with a current set up. I liked it.
Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
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Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
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Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
I've heard that the convention center is Louisville isn't within walking distance of really anywhere. Apparently there is one hotel connected to it similar to the Hyatt in Columbus, but other than that you have to drive to eat and to other hotels.
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Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
I like the torque control device!....also, the ATA is going to be in Louisville next year? That's a 6 hour drive, right? Been to the gun show there!
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I like the torque control device!....also, the ATA is going to be in Louisville next year? That's a 6 hour drive, right? Been to the gun show there!
Yes sir..Louisville next year. I have a squared up and have it mounted to my bow. I am going to give it a try this afternoon. Pete Shepley loves these things.
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But how can it not change your anchor point??? Or your form
From what I understand it doesn't change your anchor point, it does change your hand placement and peep placement. I don't know for sure. I have a 29" draw so I don't need it.
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OK bdillard you are 100% wrong why you would make this up I can only imagine no one has one but me I
am the manufacturer . Jealous I would guess nice try tell us where and who with contact info or remove post this is out right wrong.
I don't think he was saying he has an obsession bow, I think he was saying that bow is not like what he currently has, but that's just the way I read it. He said he shot an obsession bow, but it's not like what he's got ( later in the posthe states he will keep his z7)
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Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
That sounds great! Keep us informed with the square up. Gotta love new stuff!
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I don't think he was saying he has an obsession bow, I think he was saying that bow is not like what he currently has, but that's just the way I read it. He said he shot an obsession bow, but it's not like what he's got ( later in the posthe states he will keep his z7)
He said he shot the Lethal Force. The Lethal Force is Obsession's 2012 bow and Dennis was saying it was impossible for him to have shot it because Dennis is the only person who currently owns one. Unless he was at the ATA show, he hasn't shot or seen the bow.
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Derik, good to meet you and put a face with the name. We'll have to get the GON members that are at the show next year in Louisville and have a dinner. If we drive five miles from the show maybe we can all get a burger for less than 25 bucks.
How does it differ than a bubble leveler on the bottom of your sight? Seems like they would do the same thing?
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Stevens archery is the only one in GA that has one. Is that where you shot it?
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He said he shot the Lethal Force. The Lethal Force is Obsession's 2012 bow and Dennis was saying it was impossible for him to have shot it because Dennis is the only person who currently owns one. Unless he was at the ATA show, he hasn't shot or seen the bow.

Sounds like the place listed above might have one, or he could have shot it at the ATA show. If that's what he was saying then I took it wrong, I was just posting that I read it differently.
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Steven picked up the bow last night. Swwtv called Steven prior to his reply and asked, Steven told him he had not allowed anyone to shoot the bow yet.

To be 100% clear, as of now, 2 Lethal Force bows are in Georgia. Bow Only has one & Steven has the other. More risers & cams are being cut right now & bows will be shipped ASAP when completed.
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What changes were made to the 2012 Ramcats? I saw where someone mentioned a change, but didn't hear exactly what is different. I'm very interested in these heads
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They have 2 o-rings on the shaft where it goes in the insert. Plus left handed threads on the blade screws. I think that was all.
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I think I know what I shot boyz . Keep shooting those obsession bows and i will keep shooting what I shoot. Obsession bows in my opinion has nothing on my bows. That's just my opinion. So shoot what u shoot and I will shoot mine. Not impressive to me. Good luck.
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And by the way. Ata show had lethal force. I will stick with what I got.
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OK bdillard you are 100% wrong why you would make thzis up I can only imagine no one has one but me I
am the manufacturer . Jealous I would guess nice try tell us where and who with contact info or remove post this is out right wrong.
Jealously . What do I have to be jealous of. I know what I got. 2 products that stand behind what they offer. I love what I got. Just because I don't like it don't mean they are bad bows. You need to accept it bud.
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Sorry guys... I.shot the ss. My buddy was pulling my leg. I hope Yall have a great yr with the obsession. I am comfortable with what I got. Good luck to all.
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J,

They have 2 o-rings on the shaft where it goes in the insert. Plus left handed threads on the blade screws. I think that was all.
Yes, the 2 O Rings were added to the shaft, the left handed screws, also additional hardening of the metal in the ferrule and blades.
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I think they made a 125gr head and a $10 price jump
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I think they made a 125gr head and a $10 price jump
The 125gr was available last year and yes it is more expensive.
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Evening guys.

I want to preface this post by saying that the ATA product I am about to describe and link to is not an advertisement or a post for us at Realtree. As a matter of fact, it's a treestand company that is not even licensed with us, so this is purely an FYI for you all. I even posted the link below in our own forums.

It's a product that our writers and Big Doe Down from here at GON was really impressed with and since treestands have been a popular topic in this thread, it seems newsworthy. It's a new climber called the "X-Stand" and it was probably one of the more talked about products at the show because of it's design, how it works, it's weight, and ease to carry.

In this blog link, our online whitetail editor Tony Hansen gives us a video report on the X-Stand:

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How does it differ than a bubble leveler on the bottom of your sight? Seems like they would do the same thing?
The bubble level can tell you if your tilting the top or bottom of the bow to the left or right. The Squreup will tell you if your twisting or turning to the left or right (as best I can tell).
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Evening guys.

I want to preface this post by saying that the ATA product I am about to describe and link to is not an advertisement or a post for us at Realtree. As a matter of fact, it's a treestand company that is not even licensed with us, so this is purely an FYI for you all. I even posted the link below in our own forums.

It's a product that our writers and Big Doe Down from here at GON was really impressed with and since treestands have been a popular topic in this thread, it seems newsworthy. It's a new climber called the "X-Stand" and it was probably one of the more talked about products at the show because of it's design, how it works, it's weight, and ease to carry.

In this blog link, our online whitetail editor Tony Hansen gives us a video report on the X-Stand:

http://www.realtree.com/hunting/real...ck-the-x-stand

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Alright guys. I shot a lethal force this morning. They are probably great bows but all I will say is they shot nothing like what I got. I hope all you guys that have a obsession has great luck with them. I will stay with the z7 and d350
Like I said before you did not shoot one .I would hope that if your gonna put a company down please be honest in your post that's all anyone can ask
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The bubble level can tell you if your tilting the top or bottom of the bow to the left or right. The Squreup will tell you if your twisting or turning to the left or right (as best I can tell).
Right on.... I just got through testing mine out and I really like it. It really didn't change anything for me except to make me know I am where I am supposed to be. I tryed every angle and found that if I twist(like for a far right shot, perfect for a lefty like me) that my pin was very close to one side of the strand. Easy correction, with very little thinking about it. At the crazy speeds we are shooting now I'll take anything that gives me any edge. This is deffinately going to be part of my set up from now on.
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bdillard's comments seem to me as if there is an agenda. Not real sure what the point is. I was there with Parker and even I reported nothing but good things from some of my dealers that shot it. And again, it doesn't take very much to shoot better than a Z7! I have no doubt that Obsession would stand behind the bows. I have never seen any one put their cell number on one of their products like Dennis does the fatal obsession scent. Besides I like to see the smaller guys make it myself.
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Evening guys.

I want to preface this post by saying that the ATA product I am about to describe and link to is not an advertisement or a post for us at Realtree. As a matter of fact, it's a treestand company that is not even licensed with us, so this is purely an FYI for you all. I even posted the link below in our own forums.

It's a product that our writers and Big Doe Down from here at GON was really impressed with and since treestands have been a popular topic in this thread, it seems newsworthy. It's a new climber called the "X-Stand" and it was probably one of the more talked about products at the show because of it's design, how it works, it's weight, and ease to carry.

In this blog link, our online whitetail editor Tony Hansen gives us a video report on the X-Stand:

http://www.realtree.com/hunting/real...ck-the-x-stand

Thanks. I think y'all will be impressed.

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Tony Hansen mentioned above was Bill Winke's Midwest Whitetail Michigan Team Host & Producer for 2 seasons in 2009 & 2010.

Yep, looks like a nice, very light climber worth considering, and has a sit & climb version of the stand similar to Lone Wolf. In addition to that video, I watched the 2 instructional videos on their web site. It looks like it packs up quicker & easier with better balance on your back like the API Grand Slam climbers.

The "fiberglass" flex arm technology materials do raise concerns about strength & durability.

For those willing to give up the more safe, roomy, & flexible horizontal closed rail seat climbers with more comfortable larger cushioned sling seats like Summit Vipers & API Grand Slam climbers that are 67% to 133% heavier, it may be worth the compromise to go with X-Stands depending on your priorities & preferences.

Thx for posting.


Here's the X-Stand web link below:

http://www.x-stand.com/xstand.html



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Hey guys! New to the forum so go easy on me. Hope to clarify some things. Stephen picked up the Lethal Force and the Sniper from Dennis on Sat. I went over Sunday and shot both. All I can say is Wow. I was impressed. Don't always believe the hype you hear unless it's about these bows. Best bow I've ever shot. Pulls smooth, amazing let off, and FAST! Shot my arrow within 4fps of what my bow is shooting while pulling ten less pounds. Also the bow is extremely quiet. There is no vibration whatsoever! One was solid black and the other black riser with camo limbs. Both look great. Had Stephen order one for me. Went with the Sniper in solid black. This is going to be a great hunting bow and I'm sure when people start shooting them they are gonna sell fast.

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Like I said before you did not shoot one .I would hope that if your gonna put a company down please be honest in your post that's all anyone can ask
I was honest. I came back and said it was the ss I shot. I was told it was the lethal force. I guess that's what I get for not paying attention to the bow I shot. My buddy was pulling my leg about it being a lethal force. And I wasn't talking bad about the product I just said that I didn't like it. That doesn't make it a bad bow. Every body has their own opinions. Good luck with the obsession. I will stay with the bowtech destroyer 350 and the Mathews z7. Good luck
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bdillard's comments seem to me as if there is an agenda. Not real sure what the point is. I was there with Parker and even I reported nothing but good things from some of my dealers that shot it. And again, it doesn't take very much to shoot better than a Z7! I have no doubt that Obsession would stand behind the bows. I have never seen any one put their cell number on one of their products like Dennis does the fatal obsession scent. Besides I like to see the smaller guys make it myself.
That is your opinion about the z7 . I won't get my panties in a wad about you not liking it though. Hard to say they don't shoot good when you look and see how many Mathews sold. Just sayin. You shoot what you shoot and I will shoot what I shoot. Enough said.
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