Christians Voting

[StriperAddict]

Neat word to straighten our thinking during election time ...

It’s political season—maybe you’ve noticed—so the “God is going to remove His hand of favor from this nation!” fear mongering is cranking up again. Have you heard it? In 8 minutes you’ll find out why it isn’t true because of what IS true. It’s good news, and you’ll be encouraged.

 

[Artfuldodger]

Neat word to straighten our thinking during election time ...

It’s political season—maybe you’ve noticed—so the “God is going to remove His hand of favor from this nation!” fear mongering is cranking up again. Have you heard it? In 8 minutes you’ll find out why it isn’t true because of what IS true. It’s good news, and you’ll be encouraged.

In the history of God in the Old and New Testaments, was Israel the only nation ever blessed?
What about nations that were cursed?

I've always thought it interesting how individual salvation ties in to national salvation. National blessing and curses as well.

Interesting video, thanks.

Through Abraham's offspring all nations would be blessed. So maybe when that blessing came(Jesus) all nations received the final blessing nationally and it went to just individual blessings. No more Jew nor Greek.

But we still have Jews and Greeks, male and female. There is some distinguishing factors between male and female. Things man can do and not women. We still have free people and slave people.

 

[Artfuldodger]

I don't see the US as being in a covenant relationship with God. Not as a nation but as individuals, yes.
Maybe when Jesus came, God got out of politics. Maybe that's what Galatians 4:3-9 teaches.

Israel had/has a unique relationship with God.

 

[breadfan]

Nice thread.

 

[Spineyman]

I don't see the US as being in a covenant relationship with God. Not as a nation but as individuals, yes.
Maybe when Jesus came, God got out of politics. Maybe that's what Galatians 4:3-9 teaches.

Israel had/has a unique relationship with God.

God might not be in covenant with our nation but He sure is in covenant with His Church of which are many members in out Nation. He has called us to be slat and lighjt and having a quitter mentality is not being either. He says to not faint or grow weary in well doing for after a little while you will reap. We are to stand for what is right and be counted among the people of God.

 

[apoint]

I dont believe the video, he is teaching replacement theology and he is delusional.... I would get out of his church quick. God never changes. ever. Same yesterday today and tomorrow. NOW.. The jews Gods people, were taken into slavery. They were "ALL" taken into slavery, because of the evil in the nation. You cant remove Gods protection on a nation but He can, if the nation is evil and falls away from God.
You folks talk of political scary tactics, You aint seen scary till God gives us over to our enemies. Get out and vote against the evil of abortion, gay rights, open boarders. The socialist dimms are for everything that will destroy our country.
Keep sticking your head in the sand till its too late. Its almost too late to save our country now. Vote conservative now before our country falls. Dont bother responding to my post, just get out and vote "ALL RED".

 

[Artfuldodger]

I dont believe the video, he is teaching replacement theology and he is delusional.... I would get out of his church quick. God never changes. ever. Same yesterday today and tomorrow. NOW.. The jews Gods people, were taken into slavery. They were "ALL" taken into slavery, because of the evil in the nation. You cant remove Gods protection on a nation but He can, if the nation is evil and falls away from God.
You folks talk of political scary tactics, You aint seen scary till God gives us over to our enemies. Get out and vote against the evil of abortion, gay rights, open boarders. The socialist dimms are for everything that will destroy our country.
Keep sticking your head in the sand till its too late. Its almost too late to save our country now. Vote conservative now before our country falls. Dont bother responding to my post, just get out and vote "ALL RED".

I wonder it Ephesians 2:12-14 shows some type of change? Something that removed the dividing wall? I don't think this event replaced Israel but broadened it's Commonwealth through adoption.

God may never change but he did take Israel into slavery.

Ephesians 2:12-14
remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ. But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ. 14For He Himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has torn down the dividing wall of hostility.

 

[Israel]

I can only surmise it is all dependent upon where one finds one's citizenship.
Each must speak from such "ground".

 

[Spineyman]

Matthew 25:14-30

14 “For it is just like a man about to go on a journey, who called his own slaves and entrusted his possessions to them. 15 To one he gave five talents, to another, two, and to another, one, each according to his own ability; and he went on his journey. 16 Immediately the one who had received the five talents went and traded with them, and gained five more talents. 17 In the same manner the one who had received the two talents gained two more. 18 But he who received the one talent went away, and dug a hole in the ground and hid his master’s money.

19 “Now after a long time the master of those slaves *came and *settled accounts with them. 20 The one who had received the five talents came up and brought five more talents, saying, ‘Master, you entrusted five talents to me. See, I have gained five more talents.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.’

22 “Also the one who had received the two talents came up and said, ‘Master, you entrusted two talents to me. See, I have gained two more talents.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.’

24 “And the one also who had received the one talent came up and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you scattered no seed. 25 And I was afraid, and went away and hid your talent in the ground. See, you have what is yours.’

26 “But his master answered and said to him, ‘You wicked, lazy slave, you knew that I reap where I did not sow and gather where I scattered no seed. 27 Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest. 28 Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.’

29 “For to everyone who has, more shall be given, and he will have an abundance; but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. 30 Throw out the worthless slave into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


God places us here as stewards to subdue the earth. I can not get an escapist mentality and continue to do what God has charged me to do. He gave us a representative form of Government and as the framers said it is a Republic ma'am, if you can keep it. I promise you that if those who believe in Christ do nothing then it will indeed be transferred to the kingdom of darkness. As Jesus told His disciples, don't worry about times and seasons, continue to do all that I have commanded you to do. Escapist mentality does not do that, they abdicate their responsibility.

 

[apoint]

Ever here the term, "He was so heavenly minded he was no earthly good"?