I would bet, given that Jim is a biblical name dating back to the first century AD and crows evolved some 17 million prior to James that Jim Crow has been around a couple of thousand years....but the state sponsored forced segregation of people in the United States based on race, collectively known as Jim Crow Laws, were started just after the "end" of reconstruction in response to a supreme court decision making it illegal to segregate interstate transportation and leading to what was called "separate but equal" thus legalizing the state required segregation of people based on their race. By 1910 every state of the former confederacy had either been re-written in its entirety or amended to incorporate this state sponsored legislation and by 1920 less than .05% eligible black voters were actually registered to vote across the region. The states passed all sorts of laws aimed at keeping the races separated but without that disenfranchisment it would have been impossible to do so in the south. It would have also been impossible for the number of "confederate" memorials to have been erected on public property....about 98% of those monuments were erected between 1920 and 1960....split almost equally in a 4 year period after the near complete disenfranchisment of black voters in the south in 1920 and another 3 year stint just after those rights were reinstated federally in 1957. 98% of the monuments in question were erected in commemoration of the disenfranchisment of black voters, relagating black people to second class, at best, citizens, in the official doctrine of the states in question and just after that practice was made illegal, federally, in 1957. Only 2% of the monuments which exist today were erected prior to 1920 - 24, between 1924 and 1957, and from 1960 until today. The public writings in support of and in opposition to all of those monuments is clearly a debate over segregation and the state being able to dictate to individuals who they interacted with. There is almost NO mention of confederate valor, or sticking up for one's beleifs, or states rights in those pieces from the era in question written for or against the erection of the monuments in question. They are memorials to very ugly side of American history only loosely related to the confederacy and should be preserved and this fact brought to public history. Removing them is akin to removing a wart from the face of a pretty woman....it only serves to make the south more aestetically pleasing and keeps us from knowing our true past in the years after the civil war. Take a look at how Stone Mountain in Georgia was finally finished and funded....that is ALL anyone needs to know about 98% of these monuments. Those wanting them removed are misguided and doing themselves a grave disservice. They should be preserved for all time to document the ugliness in the heart of our ancestors who built them in the first place. They were, without any honest debate, erected in response to state mandated racial segregation and the federal end of the same.
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Confederate statues and memorials survey
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I would bet, given that Jim is a biblical name dating back to the first century AD and crows evolved some 17 million prior to James that Jim Crow has been around a couple of thousand years....but the state sponsored forced segregation of people in the United States based on race, collectively known as Jim Crow Laws, were started just after the "end" of reconstruction in response to a supreme court decision making it illegal to segregate interstate transportation and leading to what was called "separate but equal" thus legalizing the state required segregation of people based on their race. By 1910 every state of the former confederacy had either been re-written in its entirety or amended to incorporate this state sponsored legislation and by 1920 less than .05% eligible black voters were actually registered to vote across the region. The states passed all sorts of laws aimed at keeping the races separated but without that disenfranchisment it would have been impossible to do so in the south. It would have also been impossible for the number of "confederate" memorials to have been erected on public property....about 98% of those monuments were erected between 1920 and 1960....split almost equally in a 4 year period after the near complete disenfranchisment of black voters in the south in 1920 and another 3 year stint just after those rights were reinstated federally in 1957. 98% of the monuments in question were erected in commemoration of the disenfranchisment of black voters, relagating black people to second class, at best, citizens, in the official doctrine of the states in question and just after that practice was made illegal, federally, in 1957. Only 2% of the monuments which exist today were erected prior to 1920 - 24, between 1924 and 1957, and from 1960 until today. The public writings in support of and in opposition to all of those monuments is clearly a debate over segregation and the state being able to dictate to individuals who they interacted with. There is almost NO mention of confederate valor, or sticking up for one's beleifs, or states rights in those pieces from the era in question written for or against the erection of the monuments in question. They are memorials to very ugly side of American history only loosely related to the confederacy and should be preserved and this fact brought to public history. Removing them is akin to removing a wart from the face of a pretty woman....it only serves to make the south more aestetically pleasing and keeps us from knowing our true past in the years after the civil war. Take a look at how Stone Mountain in Georgia was finally finished and funded....that is ALL anyone needs to know about 98% of these monuments. Those wanting them removed are misguided and doing themselves a grave disservice. They should be preserved for all time to document the ugliness in the heart of our ancestors who built them in the first place. They were, without any honest debate, erected in response to state mandated racial segregation and the federal end of the same.
I agree wholeheartedly....and the south should be concerned with the "noses" of ALL people in the south, the majority of whom know full well when these monuments were erected and why. They should forever be preserved to document the era and the reasons they were erected in the first place, the state mandated segregation of races and the federal law that ended that stupidity.
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Chief Big Taw
Jim Crow laws were in place till during the Vietnam war.
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Go to YouTube and search for jim crow museum
BriarPatch99
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And .... that makes all people racist ....
