BANDERSNATCH
Senior Member
Do you believe that Jesus ate food that was biblically 'unclean', and taught others that they, too, could eat it? (Porkchops, Shrimp, BLTs, Frog legs, etc)
Unclean animals have a God-given purpose the earth; to clean it of garbage...like pigs and catfish do. there has always been unclean animals on the earth from the beginning, and God's people knew it. Noah was told to bring 7 pairs of clean animals on the Ark, as compared to a pair of unclean, so Noah knew the difference between unclean and clean animals then.
God does not change. There has never been a commandment of God that He decided was no longer needed. The Law was perfect and was eternal (until heaven and earth passed away, per Jesus) Not one jot or tittle would pass from it, and men were not supposed to add to it or take away from it.
Not even Love? Love didn't change anything?
Unclean animals have a God-given purpose the earth; to clean it of garbage...like pigs and catfish do. there has always been unclean animals on the earth from the beginning, and God's people knew it. Noah was told to bring 7 pairs of clean animals on the Ark, as compared to a pair of unclean, so Noah knew the difference between unclean and clean animals then.
God does not change. There has never been a commandment of God that He decided was no longer needed. The Law was perfect and was eternal (until heaven and earth passed away, per Jesus) Not one jot or tittle would pass from it, and men were not supposed to add to it or take away from it.
????? Are you asking if love changed God's commandments, brother? God commendeth His love towards us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. That changed a lot....but His commands were forever. Since Christ's death, those who accept His sacrifice no longer have to fear the punishment of failing.... but purposeful willful sin is still not ignored. Hebrews 10:26 I Cor 5 etc etc
Does that mean we'll have to follow those commands for eternity? If eternity, why would they end when Heaven and Earth pass?
Eternity is longer than when the earth and it's atmosphere is gone.
Is it possible the earth has already pass? Perhaps it never will. It may be eternal as with the Law.
I was offered on another thread that perhaps Love changes how we view God's commands. That love may conquer all. That from a certain perspective, the Love of God in the gift of His Son removed those commandments.
That maybe now, through Love, we no longer need those commands to guide us in loving others and God.
You're startin' to scare me In Deuteronomy, Heaven and Earth were the witnesses of the eternal covenant. As long as they exist, the covenant is valid. Not sure how/if things will change after the millennial reign. What Revelation does say, though, is that only those who keeps God's commandments will enter THE BRIDE, the New Jerusalem
Modern Christians need to tell the apostle John that.....and Paul....and our Messiah, who repeatedly asked us to 'keep my commandments". "Time is the ally of deceit" You have to admit, what standard churchianity presents today is nothing like what we read of 30 years after Jesus ascended in Acts
Acts 21
20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
21 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. (Churches still propagate this lie today)
22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
23 Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
24 Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also WALKEST ORDERLY, and KEEPEST THE LAW.
Always a good thing!Just presenting perspectives as other brothers have shared with us on this forum. Not necessarily the views of myself but perhaps if we view all the variations, we can learn from it and strengthen our own beliefs.
I will give up my unclean pork, shrimp, catfish, and frog legs when Jesus pries them out of my cold, dead fingers.Unclean animals have a God-given purpose the earth; to clean it of garbage...like pigs and catfish do. there has always been unclean animals on the earth from the beginning, and God's people knew it. Noah was told to bring 7 pairs of clean animals on the Ark, as compared to a pair of unclean, so Noah knew the difference between unclean and clean animals then.
God does not change. There has never been a commandment of God that He decided was no longer needed. The Law was perfect and was eternal (until heaven and earth passed away, per Jesus) Not one jot or tittle would pass from it, and men were not supposed to add to it or take away from it.
The rules and the Law is an impossibility, but that's the whole point. It doesn't have power to clean us on the inside like the One final sacrifice can, because it cannot "make men perfect, but bringing in a better hope DID" (Heb). Romans says we died to the law by the body of Christ. Why? Because law revives sin, where grace gives us the power to live godly.
With that, I'll take both my justification in Christ with a pork sloppy Joe.
The kingdom of God is neither meat nor drink.
Romans 14
1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.
If you're in the kingdom, you're free from the law of sin and death.
Yes. God's measuring of our behavior was put away at Calvary.