Artfuldodger
Senior Member
Regardless of how we see salvation as always existing for every individual and how God could call that one individual from all creation, God chose Israel.
God chose the lineage through Adam, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Hard to deny that God predestined that lineage. Thus he chose or had a plan for Israel. Understanding that not all who is from Israel is Israel, still God had a plan or purpose for the natural lineage or genealogy.
In fact the Son of God is from the lineage of David.
Was that all there is to his Israel plan? Just to make Jesus born a Jew? Perhaps but what about the Mosaic Covenant? Set up by God between him and this lineage. Were they just randomly chosen for the nation to show other nations that man could not follow the Law?
God, a God that is not a respecter of man. The God that offers salvation based on grace and nothing else. The God that chose Israel.
There must be a deeper piece of the mystery I'm missing. Maybe it was revealed to Paul and I missed it.
If it never was about national Israel then why did God make the division? Salvation comes from the Jews(Jesus) All nations will be blessed through the offspring of Abraham(Jesus)
Galatians 3:8
The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and foretold the gospel to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”
Not trying to deny that God would ever not justify the salvation of Gentiles by faith.
Maybe the Children of God have always been who they were as elected before Creation.
Not saying that the descendants of Abraham are all the Children of God. Not arguing who the "children of the promise" are.
What I'm seeking is why Israel? Why one nation? Does Scripture even reveal this? Why did God present it as being the Jewish thing if it never was a Jewish thing?
Perhaps if it was originally a Jewish thing, then why did God change it to a not a Jewish thing?
Either way it either started out as a Jewish thing that changed for what ever reason or it never was a Jewish thing. Yet it is presented by scripture as at least starting out as a Jewish thing.
God chose the lineage through Adam, Noah, Shem, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Hard to deny that God predestined that lineage. Thus he chose or had a plan for Israel. Understanding that not all who is from Israel is Israel, still God had a plan or purpose for the natural lineage or genealogy.
In fact the Son of God is from the lineage of David.
Was that all there is to his Israel plan? Just to make Jesus born a Jew? Perhaps but what about the Mosaic Covenant? Set up by God between him and this lineage. Were they just randomly chosen for the nation to show other nations that man could not follow the Law?
God, a God that is not a respecter of man. The God that offers salvation based on grace and nothing else. The God that chose Israel.
There must be a deeper piece of the mystery I'm missing. Maybe it was revealed to Paul and I missed it.
If it never was about national Israel then why did God make the division? Salvation comes from the Jews(Jesus) All nations will be blessed through the offspring of Abraham(Jesus)
Galatians 3:8
The Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and foretold the gospel to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”
Not trying to deny that God would ever not justify the salvation of Gentiles by faith.
Maybe the Children of God have always been who they were as elected before Creation.
Not saying that the descendants of Abraham are all the Children of God. Not arguing who the "children of the promise" are.
What I'm seeking is why Israel? Why one nation? Does Scripture even reveal this? Why did God present it as being the Jewish thing if it never was a Jewish thing?
Perhaps if it was originally a Jewish thing, then why did God change it to a not a Jewish thing?
Either way it either started out as a Jewish thing that changed for what ever reason or it never was a Jewish thing. Yet it is presented by scripture as at least starting out as a Jewish thing.
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