matthewsman
Senior Member
From DDawdg in the"ghost" thread
But I do see them as a warning, Striper. I see them as proof positive that Christianity is a test from God to see if His people will be led astray by it or keep on believing in the Original Testament and Covenant that God made with the Jewish people. Those who truly understand and read the Original Testament in context as it is written will never be led astray by the false "messiah".
In fact, it astounds me that so many of you who I know are learned men are completely without understanding of the Original Testament scriptures. It all goes back to believing what you want to see there, not what is truly there.
end of Dixie dawgs quote
Many of the "learned men"you refer to are Christians that respect the Jewish roots of the Church and embrace the teachings of the Old Testament.
They are not Jewish,neither by faith or race.The Law does not apply to them.The covenant does not apply to Gentiles.Most of us on here fall into that category.We can't be saved by the Law,which fails us (or us it)miserably.
They have a covenant+/- they follow...the Dispensation of Grace.
They also believe Jesus is the Messiah.
They are not without understanding.They may not grasp the subtle nuances of a book translated from a different language to the extent Hebrew scholars do,but rest assured they have more than a casual grasp of the majority of the theological concepts there.They do not see what they singly want to see there,but that which is generally seen there by many learned people also.
You have not inadvertently stumbled into the midst of a bunch of mindless sheep following a false doctrine.You are instead enjoying the fellowship of people who have also studied and made a commitment in their life to serve the Lord.
What astounds me most in this whole equation is that you expect them to somehow be led to understand what you have drawn from your"studies"and your self-proclaimed deep understanding of the Word of God in context,when you sometimes lack basic understanding in the wording of some of their posts.You quote them out of context...put words in their mouths,look for ways to discredit partial statements while ignoring the whole truth in what they proclaim.
When people ask for a thread to not be a debate,you intentionally give the opposing view.If you do not understand that request in English,today, in context of this board ,and the request for harmonious discussion on that thread,I don't think they should take your word for your idea on scriptures written over 2000 years ago in a different language .
In a nutshell,you do not follow Jewish law.You are not Jewish.You do not believe Christ was the Messiah and make blasphemous remarks to that effect.
You are blown about by winds of doctrine,from Jehovahs witness,to Christian,to psuedo Judaism.
Please refrain from arguing articles of faith with people until you are on stable ground and know what you believe. Prostelyzing for the"no religion"you are touting is dangerous for the eternal souls of the people you confuse.......
But I do see them as a warning, Striper. I see them as proof positive that Christianity is a test from God to see if His people will be led astray by it or keep on believing in the Original Testament and Covenant that God made with the Jewish people. Those who truly understand and read the Original Testament in context as it is written will never be led astray by the false "messiah".
In fact, it astounds me that so many of you who I know are learned men are completely without understanding of the Original Testament scriptures. It all goes back to believing what you want to see there, not what is truly there.
end of Dixie dawgs quote
Many of the "learned men"you refer to are Christians that respect the Jewish roots of the Church and embrace the teachings of the Old Testament.
They are not Jewish,neither by faith or race.The Law does not apply to them.The covenant does not apply to Gentiles.Most of us on here fall into that category.We can't be saved by the Law,which fails us (or us it)miserably.
They have a covenant+/- they follow...the Dispensation of Grace.
They also believe Jesus is the Messiah.
They are not without understanding.They may not grasp the subtle nuances of a book translated from a different language to the extent Hebrew scholars do,but rest assured they have more than a casual grasp of the majority of the theological concepts there.They do not see what they singly want to see there,but that which is generally seen there by many learned people also.
You have not inadvertently stumbled into the midst of a bunch of mindless sheep following a false doctrine.You are instead enjoying the fellowship of people who have also studied and made a commitment in their life to serve the Lord.
What astounds me most in this whole equation is that you expect them to somehow be led to understand what you have drawn from your"studies"and your self-proclaimed deep understanding of the Word of God in context,when you sometimes lack basic understanding in the wording of some of their posts.You quote them out of context...put words in their mouths,look for ways to discredit partial statements while ignoring the whole truth in what they proclaim.
When people ask for a thread to not be a debate,you intentionally give the opposing view.If you do not understand that request in English,today, in context of this board ,and the request for harmonious discussion on that thread,I don't think they should take your word for your idea on scriptures written over 2000 years ago in a different language .
In a nutshell,you do not follow Jewish law.You are not Jewish.You do not believe Christ was the Messiah and make blasphemous remarks to that effect.
You are blown about by winds of doctrine,from Jehovahs witness,to Christian,to psuedo Judaism.
Please refrain from arguing articles of faith with people until you are on stable ground and know what you believe. Prostelyzing for the"no religion"you are touting is dangerous for the eternal souls of the people you confuse.......
I don't think anyone here knows anyones thoughts.Although I can predict with certainty some peoples replies,sometimes I'm wrong.WHAT you say does matter.When you quote someone,then give the opposing view,it's not agreeing .It's not offering approval of what they said.More often than not,you are engaging them in debate.
Many here know that.That I have failed my family and friends in the past?Many here are aware of that.Many here have also.Many here have been forgiven also,by God and the people here on earth they failed as I have.No need to beat a dead horse.No need to rehash the details.
