j_seph
Senior Member
My belief is that once saved always saved. Christ came once, died once for our sins.
Do feelings really matter? What does the word say?
Thank youEphesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
John 6:39
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
John 10:28
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Romans 8:35-39
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I have wondered what this means though;
Romans 11:20-22
20That is correct: They were broken off because of unbelief, but you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you either. 22Take notice, therefore, of the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, if you continue in His kindness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.
You've got this one group that was in but were broken off because of unbelief. Then another group that was out is now grafted in. If this group continues in their faith, they will remain in. But if they are arrogant, and don't remain in God's kindness. If they think they are "all that" because God hardened the first group to let them in, then they too can be "cut off."
"Cut off"
Then if the first group doesn't continue in their unbelief, they can be grafted back in again.
That's a lot of out, in, out, in for a once saved, always saved religion.
What separates the Sheep from the Goats? Something about feeding and helping poor people but maybe that has nothing to do with salvation. It could be just a parable about something else.
My take on this is if you read on into this in We are being told that people will do as it says in 1-3 "1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,