UPD: GOEX production (real black powder) NEW INVESTOR : DOD

[flintlock hunter]

If you just want to stretch out your BP supply you already have on hand, you could put 5 or 10 grains of real black powder under one of the black powder substitutes like the Traditions PA PELLET suggests.

 

[SwampMoss]

What is a good substitute for percussion caps muzzle loaders?

 

[lampern]

What is a good substitute for percussion caps muzzle loaders?

Not a good substitute but pyrodex has been around as a substitute

https://hodgdon.com/products/muzzle-loading-powder/pyrodex-family/

 

[NCHillbilly]

Not a good substitute but pyrodex has been around as a substitute

https://hodgdon.com/products/muzzle-loading-powder/pyrodex-family/

Pyrodex will work in a percussion gun, but not nearly as good as the real thing. I've shot it a good bit and killed several deer with it when I couldn't get Goex, but it's just not the same. Harder to clean, too, regardless of their marketing. Pellets don't work at all, or most of the other substitutes.

 

[lampern]

Yep pyrodex is not as good as black powder but it will work

 

[Nicodemus]

Yep pyrodex is not as good as black powder but it will work

Not in a flintlock it won`t.

Pyrodex is not allowed at some pre-1840 events. As well it shoudn`t be.

 

[flconch53]

The flash point of pyrodex is about 400 degrees higher than black powder. Hence the probelm with flintlocks. That's why I scratch my head when theses modern muzzleloading guys talk about synthetic powder being hotter.

 

[frankwright]

I don't shoot that much of it and I have enough to last me a good many hunting seasons but will sure be sorry to see it go.
Goex says it is looking for someone to buy the company and keep Goex going but that is a long shot.
Just for fun I looked at all the normal places that carry BP and almost all are out of stock already. The panic has started.
I seem to remember I use to use Pyrodex in my sidelocks and never really had any problems.
Flintlockers are just out of luck unless something changes!

 

[Railroader]

I am very curious about the idea of a pinch of black under a load of substitute...

Just might make T7 work in the Hawken....

 

[flconch53]

Track used to sell a nipple primer that would put a little 4f down the nipple to get a quicker ignition. I think that if you used a premeasured load with a little more 10 grains going down the barrel 1st it should work.

 

[flconch53]

Just saw a news release that Shutzen Powder is going to step up production to try to take up the slack. When I had my shop I used to sell Shutzen and it worked well.

 

[flintlock hunter]

What is a good substitute for percussion caps muzzle loaders?

The wife's Thunderhawk is an inline caplock, and not especially fond of real black powder. We switched that rifle over to Pyrodex Select and it's a winner.
If you decide to try the pellet version it might be wise to go over to a number 11 magnum cap, or get a 209 conversion. Some rifles need a little extra ignition to set off the pellets.

 

[Flintrock]

Im going to try and make my own black powder .I already ordered all the makings and the mesh screens for sifting out the grains . I will make my own charcoal . I already have enough Goex powder to last me but I always wanted to give this a try .

 

[flconch53]

I would think real charcoal not briquettes would work. I notice that some of the black powder manufacturers are specific about what kind of wood the charcoal is made from. I don't know if it makes a difference or not. I am interested in how you make out

 

[fishfryer]

I would think real charcoal not briquettes would work. I notice that some of the black powder manufacturers are specific about what kind of wood the charcoal is made from. I don't know if it makes a difference or not. I am interested in how you make out

I have read that willow wood charcoal was prized for black powder making in the past.

 

[Nicodemus]

I have read that willow wood charcoal was prized for black powder making in the past.

I`ve heard that same thing, Ken. If I was to start making my own, willow would be my choice too, if for no other reason than we have plenty of it.

 

[Flintrock]

I read about the willow wood too. I also read that soft woods like pine and cedar work well

 

[chehawknapper]

I`ve heard that same thing, Ken. If I was to start making my own, willow would be my choice too, if for no other reason than we have plenty of it.

Charcoal made from softer woods grind to a much finer powder giving the better results. The very finest charcoal powder I’ve made came from gourds.

 

[Nicodemus]

Charcoal made from softer woods grind to a much finer powder giving the better results. The very finest charcoal powder I’ve made came from gourds.

I bet that`s why your pitch glue is so good and smooth, I bet.

 

[Flintrock]

I plan to shoot some loads using Goex and the home made stuff through a chronograph . I’ll need to put some space between the bore and the chronograph so I will not singe it !